*Experienced growers*Canna vs Advanced nutrients vs Dyna Grow ...... ?

SimpleBox

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Hey Homebrewer, thanks for all the Dyna Gro info you've been generous with.
Saw you mentioned there were couple other companies with 1 bottle nutrients like Foilage Pro when using promix. Can you share which bottles/companies can run 1 bottle start to finish. Thx
 

jeepster1993

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Forgot my other tent...
This one is some Island Sweet Skunk not sexed(I did pull an obvious male last week).
These were started from seed in July.
Also being fed Canna Aqua.

So...I went on a short vacation last week and came back to bone dry buckets and very droopy plants. That was yesterday.
Today, we have recovered, mostly.
I think we will go 12/12 as soon as we recover completely from dry buckets and droop, next week.
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jeepster1993

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The Island sweet skunk after several days recovering from the droop from lack of water(oops). Same plants as above, just a few days of watering later.
Put them into flower(12/12) today. Still need sexing.
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AlaskaRob

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I need numbers. Simple npk, micros not thought of, and when to add each of p and k during bloom cycle. I'm flipping lights this weekend. I'm in coco, 3 gallon root pouches, Canna coco a&b, Cannazym, Rhizotonic, and calmag+. Do I use all these according to their respective schedules found on the bottle/on their websites through the bloom cycle also? I have a new container of flower fuel 1-34-32, and Humboldt Sticky & Sweet that I'd like to use. Any suggestions on dosages if I use them? Is 1-34-32 too high for p/K during the fattening stage? Do I use it through the whole bloom cycle?
See my problem (other than over thinking everything!)
 

Cash_Crop

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Your comment is precisely the sort of thing the OP was trying to get away from.

Your first sentence opens with an opinion, directly followed by an outright falsehood.

Then you recommend a specific product that the OP did not mention (Please notice the others among us who declined to address his question directly have avoided mentioning or promoting other products, because that’s the classy thing to do.) and assert that it is “best for taste” which prompts me to ask, have you tried every product on the market? Didn’t think so.

Different fertilizer brand names do not change the taste of your pot, period. That’s not how plants work, which is not an opinion.

I am not arguing or getting personal here, the content of your post is simply untrue, except the “I use all the Bio Bizz...” bit, which is a preference. No problem there, but your supporting arguments were incoherent and/or false.
You said Different fertilizer brand names do not change the taste of your pot, period. @Michael Huntherz i would reluctantly disagree if I were unsure but I know 1000% that there are products out there that will make your buds smell and taste like a fish fart or there are products that will make your buds taste and smell magical like 3 little angels sprinkling fairy dust and cotton candy on your tongue, New Product Alert Kushy Kush
 

xFACEMANx

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Experienced with a brand means that you learned how much of each their products you actually have to put on a plant.
You learned their product.
Not what you put into your plant and why.
If you have to,use the brand with the most ingredients for the least price.
That said,none of these.

I went backwards.
Researched what the plant eats and when. What I does.
Then I bought the products that had highest concentrations of these,paying attention to where they are derived from too.
I cover all the macro/micro and use bacteria to even it all out.(and do miracles)
Everything in 5 products.

A note on bacteria.
At the low feeding I'm useing,the crappy water, and even withthe different amounts the plants eat....they are irreplaceable. You need to set your food with them or without them. The difference they made in my mix dropped my it from 1.6 grams per gallon to 1 gpg. No burns or deficiencies for many runs.
Use it of don't but...STAY CONSISTENT.
 

xFACEMANx

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Hey Homebrewer, thanks for all the Dyna Gro info you've been generous with.
Saw you mentioned there were couple other companies with 1 bottle nutrients like Foilage Pro when using promix. Can you share which bottles/companies can run 1 bottle start to finish. Thx
In my honest opinion turn the bottle around and look at ingredient.the one with the most for the least price wins. There's really no difference....other than where they are derived from.
When you compare it to dry all in one foods, then you stoop asking about bottles and paying for water.
 

xFACEMANx

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I need numbers. Simple npk, micros not thought of, and when to add each of p and k during bloom cycle. I'm flipping lights this weekend. I'm in coco, 3 gallon root pouches, Canna coco a&b, Cannazym, Rhizotonic, and calmag+. Do I use all these according to their respective schedules found on the bottle/on their websites through the bloom cycle also? I have a new container of flower fuel 1-34-32, and Humboldt Sticky & Sweet that I'd like to use. Any suggestions on dosages if I use them? Is 1-34-32 too high for p/K during the fattening stage? Do I use it through the whole bloom cycle?
See my problem (other than over thinking everything!)
Maybe it hurts a lot...but throw the crap away you aren't useing. Learn to use what you love or already use.
PK boost. That's a funny one.is that all your boosting with your product?
The research. I don't care about lines.i use the products that do exactly what I need.
That said, the npk line has pure p and k.
I ran them AFTER I dialed in my main food.
If you do the research and simplify it, you will find that the Phosphorus is for extra/more bud sites.
The k is for filling those sites.
Just that info tells you that all in one PK boost is not as efficient as separating them......like this.
P for first 4 weeks
K for weeks 2-6
Grow bud sites for 2 weeks...THEN fill with k.
Stop bud site growth and continue to fill.
(To finalize the research I dropped it all. Stopped all bosting. Found that the shock they got wasn't worth the minimal results. My food is a flower food so it's in there al ready.

Bacteria effects your harvest more for cheaper with a thousand more benefits.)

I stop at week six cuz I stop all food here. No flush. Plants actually eat their food unless you screwed up.
 

homebrewer

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In my honest opinion turn the bottle around and look at ingredient.the one with the most for the least price wins. There's really no difference....other than where they are derived from.
When you compare it to dry all in one foods, then you stoop asking about bottles and paying for water.
It's not that people are 'paying for water', they're paying for ease of use. I'm currently testing MegaCrop in hydro. I wish I could pay to not have a dusty brown arm every time I'm scooping out food onto a scale. I wish I could pay to not have to first premix this dry food into a bucket of water because it doesn't mix that well when dumped directly into a reservoir. With liquid foods these aren't an issue and the cost savings of using MC is literally a couple bucks per month per light.

Have you ever dissolved a few pounds of MKP into a gallon of water? Buying pounds of the dry salt really isn't that much cheaper than buying 1 gallon liquid products like kool bloom or Magpro.
 

xFACEMANx

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It's not that people are 'paying for water', they're paying for ease of use. I'm currently testing MegaCrop in hydro. I wish I could pay to not have a dusty brown arm every time I'm scooping out food onto a scale. I wish I could pay to not have to first premix this dry food into a bucket of water because it doesn't mix that well when dumped directly into a reservoir. With liquid foods these aren't an issue and the cost savings of using MC is literally a couple bucks per month per light.

Have you ever dissolved a few pounds of MKP into a gallon of water? Buying pounds of the dry salt really isn't that much cheaper than buying 1 gallon liquid products like kool bloom or Magpro.
Sounds like some has boxed them selves into a situation.
I put my dry mix into my water give it a couple stirs and pour.
So no I haven’t and wouldn’t do what your doing.
Every penny counts for me, so yes the little bit I save gets farther.
Ease of use? Cmon.
1 GRam per gallon. From week 2 till food stop. That ease of use.
How can you make mess with that? 50 gal..... 50 grams. Not to hard.
BUT your missing the point.most bang for buck. In some cases that’s a bottle....But not following what’s printed on it.
And for Gods sake be safe and wear a dust mask my friend.
Just compare dyna grow to maxi bloom. Both Are good foods.
But at 1 gpg for maxi vs 5 mill per gallon. Maxi gets expensive quick.
I’m a small one guy so when a bag of food lasts a year. And a bottle maybe 3months ..... dry food for the win. I’m not lazy, just broke so ease of use versus price isn’t even a concern.
 

swedsteven

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Wow more like 4 to 5gram a gallon of megacrop 1 per gallon is 150 ppm not enought

I put my megacrop in a toperway plastic ziploc like this i keep my hand clean .

Maxibloom lucas
7gram a gallon
 
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homebrewer

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Sounds like some has boxed them selves into a situation.
I put my dry mix into my water give it a couple stirs and pour.
So no I haven’t and wouldn’t do what your doing.
Every penny counts for me, so yes the little bit I save gets farther.
Ease of use? Cmon.
1 GRam per gallon. From week 2 till food stop. That ease of use.
How can you make mess with that? 50 gal..... 50 grams. Not to hard.
BUT your missing the point.most bang for buck. In some cases that’s a bottle....But not following what’s printed on it.
And for Gods sake be safe and wear a dust mask my friend.
Just compare dyna grow to maxi bloom. Both Are good foods.
But at 1 gpg for maxi vs 5 mill per gallon. Maxi gets expensive quick.
I’m a small one guy so when a bag of food lasts a year. And a bottle maybe 3months ..... dry food for the win. I’m not lazy, just broke so ease of use versus price isn’t even a concern.
I think when you move your grow out of a closet you'll realize the inconveniences I'm referring to.
 

xFACEMANx

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I think when you move your grow out of a closet you'll realize the inconveniences I'm referring to.
So here come the toxic. The reason I stayed away. Lol Option and no fact.
You really don't have to result to insults. To bad your knowledge doesn't flow as fast as your insults.
When you get my quality in your quantity... then step up son.
 

homebrewer

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So here come the toxic. The reason I stayed away. Lol Option and no fact.
You really don't have to result to insults. To bad your knowledge doesn't flow as fast as your insults.
When you get my quality in your quantity... then step up son.
I think that closet grow is giving you an inferiority complex. No one has insulted you.
 

homebrewer

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So here come the toxic. The reason I stayed away. Lol Option and no fact.
You really don't have to result to insults. To bad your knowledge doesn't flow as fast as your insults.
When you get my quality in your quantity... then step up son.
And I'm curious about this quality you speak of. Post a few pics of your flowers near harvest.
 
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