Greenpoint seeds!!

whytewidow

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same here. Gonna take a chance on a 20K 8 bulb 2ft bank due to space, my current 6500K gets em up, but not much else, no matter how close. I always hit em with the mh in the tent though, heavier air movement and that HID seems to harden em up pretty quick. With GPS strains Im gonna keep flowering first month MH, then switch bulbs. I can only dream bout them cob thingies and the led thingabajigs per money.
I am adjustable from roughly 225 watts to 900ish in DIY led. I have less than 400 bucks in my light. And I have access to temp n humidity. I can control all my tents fans, lights, dehumidifiers, or whatever. DIY is the best way to go. Honestly depending on how big of a space you have. You can build a very nice light for under 275 bucks.
 

whytewidow

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Gd question I see where your coming from but although I've had this T5 fixture 4 bulb for approx 5 yrs I've only really used it for seedlings for weed and chillis and only at most run it for 2 months a year ...but I run it 24/7 and I've often wondered if I would see more growth going 18 or so hours instead.
So I would say the bulbs are 8-10 months old x 24/7 at the very most
I get faster and more veg growth under 18/6 than I do 24/7
 

whytewidow

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That's my line of thinking too but my veg room is packed. I'm brainstorming trying to find a way to save these without it being too much of a pain in ass. I know I'm looking at a few weeks before I can grab some viable cuttings.
Just take a cut, and throw it in a solo. Itll will root and reveg faster. I only take cuts from flower. And I have revegged about 25 plants. The smaller the plant. The faster. I revegged a giant skunk #1 last year. Both ways. I left pieces on the original plant and also took two cuttings. Put em soil with willow water. Both in the solos rooted revegged and started growing 2.5 weeks before the original potted one did.
 
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macsnax

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Just take a cut, and throw it in a solo. Itll will root and reveg faster. I only take cuts from flower. And I have revegged about 25 plants. The smaller the plant. The faster. I revegged a giant skunk #1 last year. Both ways. I left pieces on the oriental plant and also took two cuttings. Put em soil with willow water. Both in the solos rooted revegged and started growing 2.5 weeks before the original potted one did.
Oriental cannabis you say? F-ing auto correct! Lol
 

Heisengrow

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You can definitely save cash building your own but you are wrong about light spread with this brand. I also do not think you can compare heat sinks. They have hightech fancy adjectives I can't remember for how the angle + reflect lights in them. This is why they don't have to be so spread out. I know it works for a fact because I have my own higher end spectrometer and have seen them tested on on the real deal big boy ones.



Pretty positive this is the case, but even if not same exact deal.

Very odd both went by same supposed real life first name and the same first name people who have dealt with him in real life know him as.

Every person working on that site should be shunned and never dealt with. All play hand in sweeping up the mess and allowing him to continue to rob people.



It has everything to do with this thread since Adam is most likely Logic. Same scheme different day. And our hero Heisen here,,,kind of funny and a little ironic he was the hero and savior for exposing the s1's as fake? Hmmm....Now we got more s1's on the way to quote him, "Show @Gu~ how it's done".

Yeah heart of fuckin gold lol. Had me laughin good with that one.

Sorry not fuckin naive this guy is dirty too. He saw as a mod what went down and he fell for Logic's bullshit story about being ripped off when he is the source of the beans straight up or doesn't care.
As for your opinion on my character because I "work"for logic I'm done with that.
As far as the light goes cob LEDs are like t5s,anyone in the business will tell you the footprint of a cob is as big as the fixture.
That fixture is nothing more than a spotlight.
It has the same par footprint as any other single bulb fixture.the last foot around the edges suffers.you can see it in there par diagram.
My point on building your own is you can put more lower wattage cobs to cover up the entire footprint of a 5x5 for less money using a cob fixture that is the size of your grow area.
More cobs spaced out at lower wattages are more efficient.those led manufacturers build there fixtures to the minimum before having to ship them using a shipping company which would cost more money
If they told you that fixture being 2.5x2.5 is better than a fixture that's as big as your grow space there lying to your face.

Using a fixture that is as big as the footprint you cover you dont get the dropoffs at the edge of a 4x4.this is taken from there website and not that great in my opinion for 1200 dollars worth of light.
That company couldnt ship this fixture if they wanted to.would require freight shipping.
Built for a 4x5 750 watts.
There is 640 watts of nothing that can compare to a DE HPS.thats a misconception and a lie.

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Jp.the.pope

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As for your opinion on my character because I "work"for logic I'm done with that.
As far as the light goes cob LEDs are like t5s,anyone in the business will tell you the footprint of a cob is as big as the fixture.
That fixture is nothing more than a spotlight.
It has the same par footprint as any other single bulb fixture.the last foot around the edges suffers.you can see it in there par diagram.
My point on building your own is you can put more lower wattage cobs to cover up the entire footprint of a 5x5 for less money using a cob fixture that is the size of your grow area.
More cobs spaced out at lower wattages are more efficient.those led manufacturers build there fixtures to the minimum before having to ship them using a shipping company which would cost more money
If they told you that fixture being 2.5x2.5 is better than a fixture that's as big as your grow space there lying to your face.
More points of light, lesser voltage, more efficient and better coverage. If you have the time and money def the way to go. That's what I did.

Only premade fixtures id consider are quatum boards. IMO COBs will always be better when designed for your room and DIY.
 

whytewidow

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More points of light, lesser voltage, more efficient and better coverage. If you have the time and money def the way to go. That's what I did.

Only premade fixtures id consider are quatum boards. IMO COBs will always be better when designed for your room and DIY.
I did about 8 months of research before I decided to DIY. And I came up with the same answer. More lights sources, better coverage, and I'm only running 24v system. And only actually pushing 23.88v normally at about I think 13.xx Amps in parallel. And multiple drivers. I can take it down to one driver and push about 237 watts. Is the lowest I've went. And maxed would just be under 1k. But I dont push them that hard at all. The most I've run it continuously is 825 watts.

Edit: and being able to control everything in my grows from my hand while I'm having dinner with my family at restaurant. Is priceless.
 
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sato108

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I did about 8 months of research before I decided to DIY. And I came up with the same answer. More lights sources, better coverage, and I'm only running 24v system. And only actually pushing 23.88v normally at about I think 13.xx Amps in parallel. And multiple drivers. I can down to one driver and push about 237 watts. Is the lowest I've went. And maxed would just be under 1k. But I dont push them that hard at all. The most I've run it continuously is 825 watts.
I ran cobs originally. My issue was I didn't have enough to cover my space properly. Cobs themselves aren't terribly expensive but when you start to add I the cost of the heatsinks, it starts changing things a bit. I switched to quantum boards and am super happy with them. But it's really whatever your preference is. I was able to get the metal for my heatsinks from my boy who works at a metal shop for free and reused my drivers. Again, whatever your preference and budget allows.
 

blowincherrypie

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Anybody gotten response from email since everything went down.. Ive got a cpl shipping notices but not a single fukn reply to my messages. Ive sent a couple emails a week and half ago and a couple more a couple days ago.

I sent a MO in for 2 orders and they only sent me one pack. I havent gotten a single response outside of the couple mass emails from the beginning of this fiasco. They always used to respond to emails quick but this is some real life bullshit.. Ive got 3 packs that they arent responding to me about and a shipping notice from last friday that hasnt even gotten a 1st scan yet.

Ive been nothing but patient but my patience is running thin from the lack of response

@Gu~ Wtf happened to the customer service bruh.. Im missin fuckin packs.. dont appreciate the radio silence
 

whytewidow

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I ran cobs originally. My issue was I didn't have enough to cover my space properly. Cobs themselves aren't terribly expensive but when you start to add I the cost of the heatsinks, it starts changing things a bit. I switched to quantum boards and am super happy with them. But it's really whatever your preference is. I was able to get the metal for my heatsinks from my boy who works at a metal shop for free and reused my drivers. Again, whatever your preference and budget allows.
I agree 100% I work for a sign company. Like high rise signs n stuff. We do led changeovers all kinds of stuff. We do our metal fab work. I used thick walled extruded aluminum tubing. Cut three sides. Every inch. Its 2x2 tubing. I used heat sink tape. And mounted my strips on the uncut side. Then bought little 45mm x 45mm PC fans and mounted them in one end. They blow through the tube. Keeps the leds super cool. I run 4 channels for lighting. One is all off, one for 3000k Samsung single rows, one for Samsung 2700k double rows, and one for the custom reds I had made. Then I use another 4 channel controller for my fans,humidifier, ect.

You can kinda see how cut them.
I added the dual rows after.
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Michael Huntherz

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Anybody gotten response from email since everything went down.. Ive got a cpl shipping notices but not a single fukn reply to my messages. Ive sent a couple emails a week and half ago and a couple more a couple days ago.

I sent a MO in for 2 orders and they only sent me one pack. I havent gotten a single response outside of the couple mass emails from the beginning of this fiasco. They always used to respond to emails quick but this is some real life bullshit.. Ive got 3 packs that they arent responding to me about and a shipping notice from last friday that hasnt even gotten a 1st scan yet.

Ive been nothing but patient but my patience is running thin from the lack of response

@Gu~ Wtf happened to the customer service bruh.. Im missin fuckin packs.. dont appreciate the radio silence
I had total radio silence and got everything I was expecting as of yesterday. No other input to add, but it sounds frustrating.
 
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