Biden leads the pack

Who should be the the Democrat's nominee for POTUS?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 5 22.7%

  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Cory Booker

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Total voters
    22
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Fogdog said:
About half the country, including myself, say they would support "Medicare for all". As shown in Colorado and every other state that has debated the topic, only about 25% say the same if they are told the cost and that they would have to give up their private insurance. About 60 million people say they are happy with their current health care plan. Once Republicans got hold of this, it would be a loser for sure.
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Why would they have to give up their private insurance. Up here in Canukistan we have universal health care and employers give extended plans and we an buy more to cover dental, chiro etc through many plans like Blue Cross etc.

Here in Alberta everyone gets free basic medical where we used to have to pay for it based on income. About $40-$60/mth for a family of three or $25 for a single person. Earn less than 12G/yr or so and it was free before.

You were stuck with the bill if you needed an ambulance and that's not cheap.

Lats year I needed an ambulance because we had a snowstorm the night before and my 200' driveway was under 5' snow drifts. Turned out I had a blown appendix and after running thru 3 hospitals with about 500 miles of transport got all fixed up and got a bill for zip. Not a freakin' penny. Even got free wifi all the way! :)

My wife has extended medical thru her provincial disability and I'm on her plan. I'm on federal disability but got refused provincial which I'm still contesting. I'm way up in northern Alberta and have to deal with imported doctors that don't seem to have a clue. I have horror stories. I have chronic fatigue or something like it that has gone un-diagnosed for almost 10 years and what I call 'nap attacks' that hit me 4 or 5 times a week. Haven't worked for about 6 years and living on $800/mth CPP-D. I'd get double that if I could get the provincial supplement. I'd rather get cured and go back to work driving Super-B tankers and netting $8G/mth. I'll be 65 in a bit over a year then get even less.

It ain't perfect but I won't go bankrupt or die untreated from a serious illness no matter how bad.

:peace:
 
SB85

SB85

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Fogdog said:
I've been helping my Mom who pretty much is helpless when it comes to health care choices. Medicare requires supplemental insurance, which costs about 60 bucks a month or some out of pocket payment for heath care treatment. It's a good deal for my mom and I'd be OK if I were on that plan too. Nobody should be left out or financially ruined by a health care crisis.
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100% agree, our dollars should be put to use to for very important programs like health care.
OldMedUser said:
Why would they have to give up their private insurance. Up here in Canukistan we have universal health care and employers give extended plans and we an buy more to cover dental, chiro etc through many plans like Blue Cross etc.

Here in Alberta everyone gets free basic medical where we used to have to pay for it based on income. About $40-$60/mth for a family of three or $25 for a single person. Earn less than 12G/yr or so and it was free before.

You were stuck with the bill if you needed an ambulance and that's not cheap.

Lats year I needed an ambulance because we had a snowstorm the night before and my 200' driveway was under 5' snow drifts. Turned out I had a blown appendix and after running thru 3 hospitals with about 500 miles of transport got all fixed up and got a bill for zip. Not a freakin' penny. Even got free wifi all the way! :)

My wife has extended medical thru her provincial disability and I'm on her plan. I'm on federal disability but got refused provincial which I'm still contesting. I'm way up in northern Alberta and have to deal with imported doctors that don't seem to have a clue. I have horror stories. I have chronic fatigue or something like it that has gone un-diagnosed for almost 10 years and what I call 'nap attacks' that hit me 4 or 5 times a week. Haven't worked for about 6 years and living on $800/mth CPP-D. I'd get double that if I could get the provincial supplement. I'd rather get cured and go back to work driving Super-B tankers and netting $8G/mth. I'll be 65 in a bit over a year then get even less.

It ain't perfect but I won't go bankrupt or die untreated from a serious illness no matter how bad.

:peace:
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How is education and housing handled out in Canada? you guys have a common sense health program in place. There are actually politicians in the states who make it seem like having a logical health care system is bad for the public.
 
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schuylaar

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Jimdamick said:
Almost one-third of registered Democratic voters back former Vice President Joe Biden for the party's 2020 presidential nomination, making him the front-runner in a new poll.

Biden is the clear leader in Harvard CAPS/Harris's June poll with support from 32 percent of Democrats polled. Hillary Clinton, the party's 2016 nominee, finished second with 18 percent of the vote, while her 2016 primary opponent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), sits in third with 16 percent.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) was the only other candidate to poll in double digits, with 10 percent of those surveyed backing her.

So let's take a poll here at RIU.
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stop.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Jimdamick said:
We need someone with moral courage, dignity, honesty and a proven track record of supporting the common man/woman, and the ability of defeating Trump.
Biden is my man, and combined with Booker or Warren as VP, that should be good enough (if the USA get's it's shit together) too beat that motherfucker Trump.
He should have run in 2016.
Sanders and Clinton were just a dream.
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I can't wait. We need #Me2


even Hillary had to pry him off, as documented by the liberal media.


what kind of sick son of a bitch would openly grope Hillary? Her own husband would rather be groping someone else.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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SB85 said:
100% agree, our dollars should be put to use to for very important programs like health care.




How is education and housing handled out in Canada? you guys have a common sense health program in place. There are actually politicians in the states who make it seem like having a logical health care system is bad for the public.
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Housing is being bought up by foreign investors, driving up the costs and making the cost of living unlivable.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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OldMedUser said:
Why would they have to give up their private insurance. Up here in Canukistan we have universal health care and employers give extended plans and we an buy more to cover dental, chiro etc through many plans like Blue Cross etc.

Here in Alberta everyone gets free basic medical where we used to have to pay for it based on income. About $40-$60/mth for a family of three or $25 for a single person. Earn less than 12G/yr or so and it was free before.

You were stuck with the bill if you needed an ambulance and that's not cheap.

Lats year I needed an ambulance because we had a snowstorm the night before and my 200' driveway was under 5' snow drifts. Turned out I had a blown appendix and after running thru 3 hospitals with about 500 miles of transport got all fixed up and got a bill for zip. Not a freakin' penny. Even got free wifi all the way! :)

My wife has extended medical thru her provincial disability and I'm on her plan. I'm on federal disability but got refused provincial which I'm still contesting. I'm way up in northern Alberta and have to deal with imported doctors that don't seem to have a clue. I have horror stories. I have chronic fatigue or something like it that has gone un-diagnosed for almost 10 years and what I call 'nap attacks' that hit me 4 or 5 times a week. Haven't worked for about 6 years and living on $800/mth CPP-D. I'd get double that if I could get the provincial supplement. I'd rather get cured and go back to work driving Super-B tankers and netting $8G/mth. I'll be 65 in a bit over a year then get even less.

It ain't perfect but I won't go bankrupt or die untreated from a serious illness no matter how bad.

:peace:
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There is no good reason people "have to" give up their private plans. Bernie's health care plan on the other hand makes people pay for heath care in the form of taxes to pay for Medicare whether they have private insurance or not. Not many can afford to pay for both. Other Senators have entered an alternative to Bernie's that would allow people to choose.

Wednesday, April 18, 2018

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senators Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), joined by U.S. Senators Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), introduced on Wednesday the Choose Medicare Act to give every individual who is not already eligible for Medicaid or Medicare the opportunity to enroll in Medicare as an individual or every employer to purchase Medicare for their employees.

https://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senators-introduce-choose-medicare-act-to-make-medicare-available-to-everyone

As it is right now, even with insurance, people go bankrupt due to medical issues. This is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US. Trump's Congress is doing its best to put even more people in this condition.
 
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Hotwired

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I came to this thread hoping to see a change. But all I see are great ideas and a bunch of confused liberals unsure about who to vote for in 2020. Same shit I saw in 2016.

Guess what? The conservapigs aren't confused. 90% of them love their candidate and 60 million plus will vote for him. Good luck libz.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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SB85 said:
100% agree, our dollars should be put to use to for very important programs like health care.

How is education and housing handled out in Canada? you guys have a common sense health program in place. There are actually politicians in the states who make it seem like having a logical health care system is bad for the public.
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If you want post grad education here you have to pay for it. I went back to school in my early 30s and racked up 30G worth of student loans to get a diploma in environmental chemistry. When I graduated the federal portion was gifted but left me with 14G of the provincial portion to be paid back at $600/mth. The boy's mother took off and left us a year later and I ended up on welfare and couldn't make the payments. They took any income tax paybacks for the next 25 years and kept demanding payment sending me a 5 page budget form every month I was supposed to fill out to prove my lack of income. Made great fire starter! :)

Our lying POS Liberal Prime Minister, Trudy, wrote off huge amounts of old student loans and I guess I was one of those because I haven't heard a word from them for at least a year. The judgement notation has also been removed from my credit rating so I guess I'm home free there. They did take over 30G off me in non-voluntary payments over 25 years tho so for sure got more than their pound of flesh.

Housing is another story. Plenty of homeless here including my #2 son who's been a junkie for at least 20 years. Lots of politicians claiming they're going to fix the problem but even decorated war vets are sleeping under bridges and offing themselves because of lack of care.

Now us boomers are aging out and putting even more pressure on our medical system. The gov't bitches about the dangers of pot but what about the dangers of junk foods?! Going to Walmart is like walking into a walrus colony fer christsakes! Land whales everywhere you look. Waddling around or even worse, wheeling around in free, motorized shopping carts. Lets see some sin-taxes on Big Macs etc to pay off the growing medical debts. That would piss of Big Food so they plan to tax the hell out of "legal" pot to pay the bills. Fat chance of that working out.

Now Putin is bitching about Canaduh breaking international rules about drug policy so the Dumpster will come back from his tete-e-tete with Putin wanting to build a northern wall to keep us stoned Canukistanians out of his beloved lower 48. What a Chump is Trump! :D

We should build our own wall and get Trump to pay for it. lol

:peace:
 
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