NFL denys free speach to it's players

Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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gwheels said:
It is pretty incredible really. The NFL is embarrassed with the spectacle or maybe Trump called and threatened a 25% tariff (his favorite number for everything). But it is kind of hard to feel sorry for millionaires playing a game. I do love the sport. It fills my Sundays for 20 weeks in the fall.

And I do understand the level of commitment required to play at the NFL level. MONSTROUS level of commitment. Diet and training for years.

I kind of liked the whole solidarity thing. It also helped drive good conversation with my son who needs to understand the stupid that is in the world. Not everyone is colour blind like I am. There is a lot of disparity among the races.

I would think hockey would be all over it too. It took a long time for races other than Caucasian to be pro. But times are a changing. And maybe they just get to smash it out on the ice.
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One would think that free speech warrants a 35% tariff.
 
Fogdog

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Sour Wreck said:
i will respect them if they strike over this new rule. as well as for money, fuck the rich owners
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A strike is likely when the current contract ends in a few years. I don't think they will strike over this. There is no need to.

What I'd like to see is mass demonstration where everybody defies the rule by taking a knee and triggers team fines. Teams can fine players which would then be contested. Where I hope this goes is some teams are good about paying the fine and protecting the players while some don't. Imagine if players refused to play for the shitty ones and favored good teams like the Jets. I hope it all blows up in Roger Gooddell's face.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
A strike is likely when the current contract ends in a few years. I don't think they will strike over this. There is no need to.

What I'd like to see is mass demonstration where everybody defies the rule by taking a knee and triggers team fines. Teams can fine players which would then be contested. Where I hope this goes is some teams are good about paying the fine and protecting the players while some don't. Imagine if players refused to play for the shitty ones and favored good teams like the Jets. I hope it all blows up in Roger Gooddell's face.
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They should get their affairs in order first and send Schuylaar her chicken nuggets.
 
UncleBuck

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Serious Weeds said:
I'm really looking forward to this. What should we call it Obama directed FBI spying. Or do you think it was comney running this op? Who do you think will be indicted next?
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“No evidence to support any allegation that the FBI or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the Trump campaign." - adam schiff

no republican in that same meeting is contradicting him either

you guys got lied to by trump (again)
 
thetr33man

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Jimdamick said:
The NFL announced today that any player that refuses too stand in a respectful manner next season, in a straight line, holding their helmets in their left hands at the playing of the national anthem, will face disciplinary actions
No more on the field protests against injustices.
It seems that Trump has gotten his way, again
What the fuck has this country become in the span of 18 months, where a citizens right (yea, NFL players are citizens) to peacefully protest against injustices by not standing for the National Anthem, and when the fucking POTUS yell's "Fire them", and the moneygrubbing owners bow to their new fucking Fuhrer's demand, and limits their employees ability to express their 1st Amendment rights.
I know what, a fascist state run by a clown who demands unmitigated loyalty, and screams about the "Deep State", when confronted about his own criminal actions.
Yea, and Hillary sucked, right?
Fuck me
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I don't get to protest while I'm at work, why should they? Bottom line is they r employees; their stupid 'cause' reflects poorly on the nfl and it is costing them money. The nfl has every right to tell them to stop.
 
TacoMac

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Jimdamick said:
Yea, I'm a Formula 1 fan.
Now that's racing
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Not anymore.

They can literally drive the cars remotely faster than the drivers can. Drivers these days in F1 mean next to nothing. A monkey could win in the Mercedes simply because it's the best car.

And V6's?

You can buy a Dodge off the showroom floor more powerful than an F1 car.

F1 is shit now. It's glory days ended in 2005 with the death of the V10.
 
Grandpapy

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thetr33man said:
I don't get to protest while I'm at work, why should they? Bottom line is they r employees; their stupid 'cause' reflects poorly on the nfl and it is costing them money. The nfl has every right to tell them to stop.
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The NFL, and all Americans are free to become communists.
It's working for China despite the protests there.

More than three decades after pledging to “reform and open up,” there are few signs the Chinese Communist Party intends to change its authoritarian posture.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/china-and-tibet

China Labor Bulletin, a labor rights group based in Hong Kong, recorded more than 2,700 strikes and protests last year, more than double the number in 2014. The strife appears to have intensified in recent months, with more than 500 protests in January alone.

Why would the NFL align with China's ideals?
Commerce loves your un-patriotic spirit.
 
Fogdog

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thetr33man said:
I don't get to protest while I'm at work, why should they? Bottom line is they r employees; their stupid 'cause' reflects poorly on the nfl and it is costing them money. The nfl has every right to tell them to stop.
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There is often a difference between legal and what is the right thing to do. Nobody is challenging the owner's legal right to order players to stand during the national anthem. The union might because the owners used a technical legality to write this rule without consulting them. Whatever.

My objection to the new rule is the mirror opposite of when people objected to players kneeling. I think owners interfering in this issue to tell black men they can't use the National anthem to express their support for Black Lives Matter is offensive. There is a racist aspect to this that we can't ignore either. It's an ugly echo from the past where rich white men tell black men whom they have power over that they must stand and show respect the national anthem, cap in hand. A terrible image.

It is my hope that many players on all teams, if not all players, will take a knee during the anthem. Teams will get fined. Teams can fine players and players can refuse to play for those teams. We'll see what happens next but I think that would be absolutely the best thing to happen.

The smartest thing for the owners to do would have been to tell players to stay in the locker room until the anthem is over. That's what players did before 2008 or thereabout.
 
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thetr33man

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Fogdog said:
There is often a difference between legal and what is the right thing to do. Nobody is challenging the owner's legal right to order players to stand during the national anthem. The union might because the owners used a technical legality to write this rule without consulting them. Whatever.

My objection to the new rule is the mirror opposite of when people objected to players kneeling. I think owners interfering in this issue to tell black men they can't use the National anthem to express their support for Black Lives Matter is offensive. There is a racist aspect to this that we can't ignore either. It's an ugly echo from the past where rich white men tell a black men whom they have power over that they must stand and respect the national anthem, cap in hand. A terrible image.

It is my hope that many players on all teams, if not all players, will take a knee during the anthem. Teams will get fined. Teams can fine players and players can refuse to play for those teams. We'll see what happens next but I think that would be absolutely the best thing to happen.

The smartest thing for the owners to do would have been to tell players to stay in the locker room until the anthem is over. That's what players did before 2008 or thereabout.
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Well that is still an option, and I doubt any player will be penalized for staying in the locker room. It is obvious that the protestors decision to disrespect our country in the name of their cause, something that is clearly not sponsored at a national level, has created a lot of animosity from Americans (customers of the NFL) who previously didnt have an opinion on this matter. Do police treat blacks differently, on average, than they treat white or asian people when they are suspected of a crime, I think so. Is the different treatment justified? There is a lot of evidence suggesting that it may be... From the officers perspective at least. Im not so sure the majority of it can be chalked up to blantant racism as much as them learning to be extra cautious when dealing with certain groups of people.
 
Terps

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I can see it now we're striking because we are not allowed to kneel and disrespect the flag in front of children.......... But the truth is they can they're just consequences now.
 
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