Three More Reasons for Wealth Deprived Americans to Take to the Streets

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Agree. Putin has Assad in his pocket and is not about to let the leverage Assad gives him go. Because we are not about to even goint to discuss military action against Russia and Putin (same thing), then sanctions that bite are options that the US along with the larger economies in the international community are employing to either destabilize Putin or at the very least hurt him where it counts.

This isn't just about Syria, it's about international murders, border wars and other crimes by Putin. Not to mention covert actions to destabilize our and other democracies.

The US is also in the position of affecting oil prices. A factor not present in past clashes with Russia or Soviet Union. I don't see Russia getting the better end of this current exchange.

Would you agree with the assessment made by experts on Russia that the only thing Putin understands is force? Simply telling him to back off is an invitation for more conflict with Russia, not less.
True. "Do the generals want a thing in Syria?" My guess is no. Trump will hit twice the usual number of pill factories and empty airports, Faux news will declare it the most devastating strike in the history of war, Uncle Sam will fade Syria and pressure Putin from a different angle.
 
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Wilksey

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Most Americans have no idea just how much richer the 1% are than themselves.
The communists tried this line back in the early part of the last century. Didn't work then, either. You see, Americans aren't as greedy or "class" conscious as the leftist scum thought we would be. That's why they had to change their line of attack in the 50's and focus on creating "social injustice" issues between men, women, and different races in the U.S. instead, which is an approach that has been far more effective at dividing the population and creating the hostility they exploit for their advantage.

Regardless, people don't need to "take to the streets"...unless those streets are in D.C., where the source of all of our problems exist in the form of a corrupt, incompetent, and traitorous federal government that should be disbanded and reformed under a new constitutional convention.

Hi to the haters out there! Hope you're having a great day.
 

ttystikk

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The communists tried this line back in the early part of the last century. Didn't work then, either. You see, Americans aren't as greedy or "class" conscious as the leftist scum thought we would be. That's why they had to change their line of attack in the 50's and focus on creating "social injustice" issues between men, women, and different races in the U.S. instead, which is an approach that has been far more effective at dividing the population and creating the hostility they exploit for their advantage.

Regardless, people don't need to "take to the streets"...unless those streets are in D.C., where the source of all of our problems exist in the form of a corrupt, incompetent, and traitorous federal government that should be disbanded and reformed under a new constitutional convention.






























Hi to the haters out there! Hope you're having a great day.
1950s and 1960s were an era of great income and wealth equality, the exact opposite of the case today.

History shows that the wealthy were unhappy with this state of affairs and set about changing it in their favor.

Things have now gotten so extreme in the opposite direction that our society is coming apart.

Extreme wealth inequality destroys Nations and empires. History shows over and over that as wealth gets more concentrated, social and economic instability rises. The notion that 'this time will be different' is as wrongheaded as it is hackneyed and will lead our country and our planet- again- to disaster.
 

ttystikk

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Works for Faux News. Ain't copyin supposed to be flatterin or sumpthen.
The article I linked in the original post was well researched and littered with links to reputable sources, such as The Global Wealth Databook.

Those who attack the sources of the data and the people who disseminate it are clearly the ones with an agenda. An agenda of mass ignorance, the better to keep those masses docile while they continue to get fleeced.
 

ttystikk

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I have no problem with people who earn their money. I have a problem with those who live on unearned income and choose not to pay taxes on their income, earned or otherwise.

In broad terms, those earning $250k or less learn it via wages or salaries. They pay most of the taxes. But that does not place them in the top 1%.

The top 1% accrue 'unearned income'- that's the IRS' terminology, not mine- and it refers to capital gains, interest, stock appreciation, real estate appreciation and so on. These forms of income are NOT taxed at rates anywhere near those of wages- although in the 1950s and 1960s they used to be.

The notion that tax cuts on corporations and the rich will stimulate economic growth is a lie sold by the rich to excuse their massive theft over time from the national treasury. Study after study has conclusively shown that in fact the very opposite is the case and our country and it's people are continuing to suffer the consequences.
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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The article I linked in the original post was well researched and littered with links to reputable sources, such as The Global Wealth Databook.

Those who attack the sources of the data and the people who disseminate it are clearly the ones with an agenda. An agenda of mass ignorance, the better to keep those masses docile while they continue to get fleeced.
I was referring to Fogdog labeling things Fake News.
 

Fogdog

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I was referring to Fogdog labeling things Fake News.
Nope, I never labeled anything fake news. That's tty's spin.

All I said was:

Nakedcaptialism is a propaganda website that furthers the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from there is suspect.

If you go through their articles, you'll find classic examples of the techniques used in propaganda. Most often is the tactic of miscasting the actions of the propagandist to be the actions of their opponent. There have been quite a few of these websites popping up lately. They claim to represent the left viewpoint but devote almost all text to bashing Democrats when the real rape and pillaging is being done by Repbulicans.

This is not to say that that website is always posting propaganda. Sometimes it posts useful articles. RT does the same thing. Still, buried in their lists of articles one can see bias and content that matches the classic techniques of propaganda. Hence I say "suspect" and not "fake". Again, that's tty's spin. not mine.
 

ttystikk

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Nope, I never labeled anything fake news. That's tty's spin.

All I said was:

Nakedcaptialism is a propaganda website that furthers the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from there is suspect.

If you go through their articles, you'll find classic examples of the techniques used in propaganda. Most often is the tactic of miscasting the actions of the propagandist to be the actions of their opponent. There have been quite a few of these websites popping up lately. They claim to represent the left viewpoint but devote almost all text to bashing Democrats when the real rape and pillaging is being done by Repbulicans.

This is not to say that that website is always posting propaganda. Sometimes it posts useful articles. RT does the same thing. Still, buried in their lists of articles one can see bias and content that matches the classic techniques of propaganda. Hence I say "suspect" and not "fake". Again, that's tty's spin. not mine.
They pick on Democrats when they aid and abet what Republicans are doing.

They are the false resistance.

How could they be otherwise when they take the same money from the same donors to do the same things?

Only a cultist would split such hairs and cling to such obviously misleading dogma.
 

Fogdog

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They pick on Democrats when they aid and abet what Republicans are doing.

They are the false resistance.

How could they be otherwise when they take the same money from the same donors to do the same things?

Only a cultist would split such hairs and cling to such obviously misleading dogma.
I completely agree that you don't see the propaganda on the Nakedcapitalism website.
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Nope, I never labeled anything fake news. That's tty's spin.

All I said was:

Nakedcaptialism is a propaganda website that furthers the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from there is suspect.

If you go through their articles, you'll find classic examples of the techniques used in propaganda. Most often is the tactic of miscasting the actions of the propagandist to be the actions of their opponent. There have been quite a few of these websites popping up lately. They claim to represent the left viewpoint but devote almost all text to bashing Democrats when the real rape and pillaging is being done by Repbulicans.

This is not to say that that website is always posting propaganda. Sometimes it posts useful articles. RT does the same thing. Still, buried in their lists of articles one can see bias and content that matches the classic techniques of propaganda. Hence I say "suspect" and not "fake". Again, that's tty's spin. not mine.
I'll see if I can rephrase but it will be hard, I'm pretty ripped. Fogdog sometimes challenges the veracity of various news items.
 

Fogdog

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I'll see if I can rephrase but it will be hard, I'm pretty ripped. Fogdog sometimes challenges the veracity of various news items.
If you can point out where I'm being unfair in challenging the veracity of those news items, let me know. I really despise spending time on those propaganda sites but I have and can say that the propaganda is there.

For example, here:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/03/senate-expands-lobbyist-bill-deregulate-real-estate.html

The article is pretty much informative. The propaganda is very subtle. Note at the beginning that the authors were clear that "The vote to end debate sailed through the Senate with the support of 13 Democratic senators." If one searches the article, there was no mention that 51 Republicans voted for it and the bill was written by Crapo, a Republican. In fact there is no mention of Republicans. Not once. The bill is entirely the child of Republicans yet the article only mentions the minority of Democrats who voted with them. The same bias is repeated again and again throughout that website's media. The slant is to put blame on Democrats even when the author of the tragedy is Republican. This is not fake news, it is propaganda.

This is why I say
Nakedcaptialism is a propaganda website that furthers the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from there is suspect.

There are plenty of sites that are free of propaganda and prefer avoiding sites that contain it.
 

ttystikk

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If you can point out where I'm being unfair in challenging the veracity of those news items, let me know. I really despise spending time on those propaganda sites but I have and can say that the propaganda is there.

For example, here:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/03/senate-expands-lobbyist-bill-deregulate-real-estate.html

The article is pretty much informative. The propaganda is very subtle. Note at the beginning that the authors were clear that "The vote to end debate sailed through the Senate with the support of 13 Democratic senators." If one searches the article, there was no mention that 51 Republicans voted for it and the bill was written by Crapo, a Republican. In fact there is no mention of Republicans. Not once. The bill is entirely the child of Republicans yet the article only mentions the minority of Democrats who voted with them. The same bias is repeated again and again throughout that website's media. The slant is to put blame on Democrats even when the author of the tragedy is Republican. This is not fake news, it is propaganda.

This is why I say
Nakedcaptialism is a propaganda website that furthers the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from there is suspect.

There are plenty of sites that are free of propaganda and prefer avoiding sites that contain it.
Lol talk about cherry picking.

You're going you try and tell us that MSNBC and CNN don't have a slant?

'It's very subtle', you say. Maybe you just don't like the objectively reasonable conclusions the authors come to, based on the data presented.
 
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