Florida is set to arm teachers

Should teachers have weapons in their classrooms?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • No

    Votes: 22 78.6%

  • Total voters
    28

Fogdog

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Lol speak for yourself or come to Alaska!
I like Alaska just fine. My wife is from there and we go for visits. Most memorable was the overcooked moose and the clam chowder that contained some "off" clams with disastrous consequence but I've never left an Alaskan's home hungry or sober. Plenty of hospitality, great meals and good times shared with her relatives and their friends around the table.

Regarding fish and chips, is this your specialty or do you go out for them? I really like a good plate of them but rarely find restaurants are up to making good ones. In my locale, that is. Making them well requires a lot of skill and while I like to cook at home, I don't deep fry enough to be good at making this particular simple but subtly difficult dish.
 

907cannabis

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The word desensitize which you seem to use a lot, means to take away sensitivity right? Your sensitivity is a reflection of how easy you feel and show your emotions, so when you say desensitize that kind of translates to suppressed emotions I think. (They don't desensitize by the way)

The part about gays, it was a joke, every gay male I've met has been on the over sensitive side for the typical male, last I checked you can't choose to be gay, pretty sure it's a chemical balance. (Hence the joke on suppressing my brain functions) I know I could never choose to be attracted to a male.

That speaks volumes on your beliefs, do you believe people really choose what sex they are attracted to?

Now there are those people that take it in the ass for money or drugs and aren't gay... They are just disgusting lol. Then there are sociopaths that will sleep with the same sex to have control and manipulate, that's just disgusting too.

Is this what you mean by opportunity to become gay? Let me translate that, they aren't gay and being gay isn't an opportunity it's a fucking chemically forced sexual preference.
 

907cannabis

Well-Known Member
I like Alaska just fine. My wife is from there and we go for visits. Most memorable was the overcooked moose and the clam chowder that contained some "off" clams with disastrous consequence but I've never left an Alaskan's home hungry or sober. Plenty of hospitality, great meals and good times shared with her relatives and their friends around the table.

Regarding fish and chips, is this your specialty or do you go out for them? I really like a good plate of them but rarely find restaurants are up to making good ones. In my locale, that is. Making them well requires a lot of skill and while I like to cook at home, I don't deep fry enough to be good at making this particular simple but subtly difficult dish.
I make my own primarily but there are good places here to eat out at too, smaller local joints usually have the goods. I love the local halibut mostly, lingcod and yellow eye are great too though just not near as good as good halibut imo. We actually just had a food truck open recently called fish and chicks, they make good fish baskets and fish tacos and stuff, I might have to go out to lunch for a halibut burger now.
 

Rob Roy

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What did protesters say they wanted? Gun bans and gun control. Specifically said they do not want armed teachers. What do Fla's lawmakers do? Arm teachers.

How about if Florida's lawmakers arm schools with better books.

Maybe armed teachers should go and collect the taxes that are forcibly extracted for their pay, it would be more honest than having others collect it for them and pretending they are teaching children bullying is bad.

They could even take kids along and teach them how to use guns to show them how schools are funded.

You are not for "gun control" you are for using guns to fund things you like and that is undeniable.
 

ttystikk

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Maybe armed teachers should go and collect the taxes that are forcibly extracted for their pay, it would be more honest than having others collect it for them and pretending they are teaching children bullying is bad.

They could even take kids along and teach them how to use guns to show them how schools are funded.

You are not for "gun control" you are for using guns to fund things you like and that is undeniable.
We have lots of gun laws, some make sense and many don't.

To say that America's outrageous societal violence problem is just about the availability of guns is illogical. There's a lot more to it.

Funny how the 'liberals' here are so hostile to that idea...
 

907cannabis

Well-Known Member
We have lots of gun laws, some make sense and many don't.

To say that America's outrageous societal violence problem is just about the availability of guns is illogical. There's a lot more to it.

Funny how the 'liberals' here are so hostile to that idea...
I've read a lot on the political forums here, the hostility is undeniable but I don't see a lot of people arguing that that's the only problem. Most just argue that having less guns will eventually equal less shootings, then there's Buck, he hates you if you have an opinion that isn't that of the perfect human being lol.
 

whitebb2727

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"First. You say that you were or a psychotherapist and that requires, what, like 8 years of school. 8 years of higher education and you can't make paragraphs instead of a block of text. Being in that field you should also understand that people have the attention span of a gnat. More reason to use paragraphs."

Yes, I said, "I am an ex psychotherapist" It looks good so far, you are actually reporting what I said correctly. I am not sure why, other than to try and discredit the rest of what I said, with a critique of my grammar, that is the norm on facebook.

Having been in that field, I know, not to ASSUME what other people think and feel and what their attention spans are, until they demonstrate it.Which is why I changed the format for fogdog in my second post, as I could see he was struggling with his ability to understand what I actually said, and not what he thought I said, because he skimmed through my post without actually reading it properly.

"Then to the video games. Quite a few studies say the opposite."

Please quote me from my posts, where I say playing violent video games, causes people to commit acts of violence please?

To help you in case you are as confused as dogfog, here is the the dictionary explanation of the word DESENSITIZE.

de·sen·si·tize
dēˈsensəˌtīz/
verb
verb: desensitize; 3rd person present: desensitizes; past tense: desensitized; past participle: desensitized; gerund or present participle: desensitizing; verb: desensitise; 3rd person present: desensitises; past tense: desensitised; past participle: desensitised; gerund or present participle: desensitising
  1. make less sensitive.
    "creams to desensitize the skin at the site of the injection"
    • make (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images.
      "people who view such movies become desensitized to violence"
    • free (someone) from a phobia or neurosis by gradually exposing the person to the thing that is feared.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=dictionary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=u8GeWo2WJfHFXoOWhoAH#dobs=desensitize&gfe_rd=cr

"As far as guns."
As far as guns go, I agree with you apart from the use of semi automatic military weapons being allowed to be owned by the public.

"Im not sure what to do but I'm flexible"
If you are flexible, I suggest you do Yoga and leave guns alone :)
What ever. I really doubt you were what you say. Just another poser.

Anyways. Video games do not make killers or desensitize people to killing. Studies say otherwise. Violent video games are played all around the world. We don't see a rash of shootings every November when the latest call of duty comes out.

I played violent video games all my life and so have some friends that went in to the military. They certainly said the real thing is different than a game and they were shocked and bothered by the horror of war.

My kids play call of duty and such. I then take them hunting. I can see by thier response there is a clear difference than a video game and killing something for real.

I will say that its a possibility for people that already have a mental illness to be effected by violent video games.

Then again I know people with mental illness that play violent games and are just fine.

Some people are killers. Humans have been killing each other since the beginning and will do so to the end.


@Fogdog did you quote me? It showed up in my alerts but I don't see the post.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
We have lots of gun laws, some make sense and many don't.

To say that America's outrageous societal violence problem is just about the availability of guns is illogical. There's a lot more to it.

Funny how the 'liberals' here are so hostile to that idea...


I don't have the right to use a gun or empower other people to use a gun to take away something that belongs to you to force you to follow my ideas. A society ruled by people who violate that concept is in a state of mass cognitive dissonance.

Using guns to take away others guns to promote peace is a nonsensical and circular argument. It's why "liberals" run away from discussing it, while at the same time advocating it, since any gun laws will need to be enforced...by guns.
 

Rob Roy

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I've read a lot on the political forums here, the hostility is undeniable but I don't see a lot of people arguing that that's the only problem. Most just argue that having less guns will eventually equal less shootings, then there's Buck, he hates you if you have an opinion that isn't that of the perfect human being lol.
If it is true that the presence of guns in peoples hands makes violence more likely why should guns be consolidated in the hands of the people in government?

There is empirical evidence that government people with guns have killed far more people than non government people ever have...
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
wealth inequality has nothing to do with it, it is the number of guns

So, before guns existed, violent people weren't the problem, it was the large quantity of sticks and rocks which were the problem?

Arsonists aren't the problem you say? It's fire itself!

Quick everybody give up their lighters, fire is now banned and you need to get a government permit to have a cookout in your backyard! (oh shit that one REALLY does exist eh Nanny?)
 

UncleBuck

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So, before guns existed, violent people weren't the problem, it was the large quantity of sticks and rocks which were the problem?

Arsonists aren't the problem you say? It's fire itself!

Quick everybody give up their lighters, fire is now banned and you need to get a government permit to have a cookout in your backyard! (oh shit that one REALLY does exist eh Nanny?)
before guns existed there was no gun violence

you should not talk about history since the only thing you know how to do is invent imaginary histories that never happened in a pathetic attempt to support your racist belief system
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
What ever. I really doubt you were what you say. Just another poser.

Anyways. Video games do not make killers or desensitize people to killing. Studies say otherwise. Violent video games are played all around the world. We don't see a rash of shootings every November when the latest call of duty comes out.

I played violent video games all my life and so have some friends that went in to the military. They certainly said the real thing is different than a game and they were shocked and bothered by the horror of war.

My kids play call of duty and such. I then take them hunting. I can see by thier response there is a clear difference than a video game and killing something for real.

I will say that its a possibility for people that already have a mental illness to be effected by violent video games.

Then again I know people with mental illness that play violent games and are just fine.

Some people are killers. Humans have been killing each other since the beginning and will do so to the end.


@Fogdog did you quote me? It showed up in my alerts but I don't see the post.
I liked your list of measures to reduce gun homicides and stole it. It's a good start.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
before guns existed there was no gun violence

you should not talk about history since the only thing you know how to do is invent imaginary histories that never happened in a pathetic attempt to support your racist belief system
Nope, but there was violence by the people who prevented serfs and peasants from bearing the same arms as the aristocracy wasn't there , Lunk Head ?

Quick, ban peasants from having swords!

Quick ban black people from owning guns! Would you forcibly disarm a black person against his will who wasn't harming you? You know like your heroes did back in the Klan days?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Nope, but there was violence by the people who prevented serfs and peasants from bearing the same arms as the aristocracy wasn't there , Lunk Head ?

Quick, ban peasants from having swords!

Quick ban black people from owning guns! Would you forcibly disarm a black person against his will who wasn't harming you? You know like your heroes did back in the Klan days?
is the guy who argues for black people to be denied service accusing others of wanting to deny things to black people?

you are a clown
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
is the guy who argues for black people to be denied service accusing others of wanting to deny things to black people?

you are a clown

You can't be "denying" people something if that something doesn't belong to them So nobody has a right to force people to associate if one or both parties prefer not to and nobody has a right to prevent people from associating if ALL parties involved wish to...Your analogy is a giant pair of brightly colored clown shoes.

As far as gun laws go, Nanny Mcgungrabber, many were instituted to prevent black people from having the right to defend themselves. I would not disarm a black person today, if they weren't harming anybody.but you would take away his choice, just like your Klan daddies did a few years back. Shameful.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
by that logic you are now claiming black people were never even denied service.

you fucking clown



you say black people are harming others when they shop at the store you fucking loser.

No, Bozo, I'm not claiming that. I'm claiming a "service" is something which occurs between parties on a voluntary and consensual basis of all parties involved or it doesn't happen. I'm claiming nobody has a right to engage others under threat of force if the other person simply wants to be left alone. I'm not a prohibitionist like you are.

A disservice would be like when you want to emulate Nazi or Klan tactics and disarm people you don't like. That's your plan.

Does your black best friend know you don't think he has the right to defend himself ? Do your Jewish in-laws know you favor the Nazi tactic of disarming people so it is easier to control them and that you are okay with killing them
or sending them to a prison camp if they disobey you Colonel Klink?
 

UncleBuck

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No, Bozo, I'm not claiming that. I'm claiming a "service" is something which occurs between parties on a voluntary and consensual basis of all parties involved or it doesn't happen. I'm claiming nobody has a right to engage others under threat of force if the other person simply wants to be left alone. I'm not a prohibitionist like you are.

A disservice would be like when you want to emulate Nazi or Klan tactics and disarm people you don't like. That's your plan.

Does your black best friend know you don't think he has the right to defend himself ? Do your Jewish in-laws know you favor the Nazi tactic of disarming people so it is easier to control them and that you are okay with killing them
or sending them to a prison camp if they disobey you Colonel Klink?
is that what happened in japan and england and elsewhere? they got sent to prison camps?
 
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