There's this certain FISA memo......

TacoMac

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Time will tell. The FISA warrants will need to be released for examination. I'd like to see the IG report and Muellers report put out ASAP so house cleaning can begin.
Considering that two Trump appointed people singed off on them, he already knows full well what is in them and why they were continued. He's just trying to bullshit people with smoke and mirrors. In other words:

BENGHAZI!!!
 

Heil Tweetler

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Ahhhhhh, the smell of leftist communist desperation in the morning. How invigorating!
I thought it only fair to follow your lead as far as quoting goes. ;)

Since no one here has seen fit to actually show the memo instead of commenting on "reports", I thought it a public service to post it so those with so much to say about it can cite the actual document passages that support their claim.

Is this memo comparable to Watergate? Not really.

But it does validate that the dossier that is responsible for FISA warrants being issued and renewed 3 times relied solely on the DNC and FBI funded dossier from Christopher Steele that was verified only by a yahoo article based on leaked material from Steele himself, "This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo news" that was paid for by over $160,000 from the DNC and Hitlery campaign although never cited as such in FISA applications, "Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele's efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then to senior DOJ and FBI officials".

So not exactly a nothingburger either, as it does point out the use of federal resources to further a political agenda using only evidence paid for by a political party.

I'll be interested in the Dem. memo due out later to see what it says.
But for those that rely on reports of the document only, versus actually reading it themselves and making up their own mind, here is the memo so they have a chance to verify what has been reported themselves.
Reported for relentless witlessness and belief that anyone would wade through that vile word shit
 

UncleBuck

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I thought it only fair to follow your lead as far as quoting goes. ;)

Since no one here has seen fit to actually show the memo instead of commenting on "reports", I thought it a public service to post it so those with so much to say about it can cite the actual document passages that support their claim.

Is this memo comparable to Watergate? Not really.

But it does validate that the dossier that is responsible for FISA warrants being issued and renewed 3 times relied solely on the DNC and FBI funded dossier from Christopher Steele that was verified only by a yahoo article based on leaked material from Steele himself, "This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo news" that was paid for by over $160,000 from the DNC and Hitlery campaign although never cited as such in FISA applications, "Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele's efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials".

So not exactly a nothingburger either, as it does point out the use of federal resources to further a political agenda using only evidence paid for by a political party.

I'll be interested in the Dem. memo due out later to see what it says.
But for those that rely on reports of the document only, versus actually reading it themselves and making up their own mind, here is the memo so they have a chance to verify what has been reported themselves.
the dossier was funded by the ultra far right wing 'washington beacon' and was not the basis of the investigation, papadopolous drunkenly bragging about conspiring with russia was the basis of the investigation and it says so right in the report you slobbering pile of nazi trash.
 

Heil Tweetler

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Sucking dotards nads ;)

Rant of a lying fucking buffoon

This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction (the word now used because, after one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead). This is an American disgrace!"
 

choomer

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the dossier was funded by the ultra far right wing 'washington beacon' and was not the basis of the investigation, papadopolous drunkenly bragging about conspiring with russia was the basis of the investigation and it says so right in the report you slobbering pile of nazi trash.
That might carry more weight if everyone didn't know you to be a habitual liar and hypocritical fraud.

Why not quote those passages from the memo?
I even posted a copy to the thread so you could read it yourself and do so, or is that too hard for your feeble mental capacity?
 

Terps

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Now there are reports that Nunes admits he didn't even read the FISA articles in the memo before he released it. So, in other words, he cherry picked and wrote a memo that referenced material he didn't even read so he had no way to write a report in the first place as he has absolutely NO CLUE what he was in fact writing about.

Yep. Typical GOP operation, folks. What's more, he can now claim that all of his misrepresentations and outright falsehoods in the memo were honest mistakes.

Of course, anybody with even half a brain sees it for exactly what it is: a very lame attempt to discredit the investigation that is slowly but surely closing in around them.

Custer had a plan too. It didn't work out too well.
If you really believe that you are a sheep
 

UncleBuck

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That might carry more weight if everyone didn't know you to be a habitual liar and hypocritical fraud.

Why not quote those passages from the memo?
I even posted a copy to the thread so you could read it yourself and do so, or is that too hard for your feeble mental capacity?
the dossier was funded by the ultra far right wing 'washington beacon' and was not the basis of the investigation, papadopolous drunkenly bragging about conspiring with russia was the basis of the investigation and it says so right in the report you slobbering pile of nazi trash.
 

choomer

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the dossier was funded by the ultra far right wing 'washington beacon' and was not the basis of the investigation, papadopolous drunkenly bragging about conspiring with russia was the basis of the investigation and it says so right in the report you slobbering pile of nazi trash.
Then cite that.
Oh, I forgot that since it spewed from the Buckold it must be true. ;)
*their
WHOSE STUPID NOW?
LMFAO!
What a waster of oxygen you are.
 

choomer

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condemn neo-nazis.
Host Muslim refugees in your home, yoga nazi.
Hell, make a pizza party out of it. ;)

But now to see 2 differing points of view from "intelligence" agents about the memo:

In an op-ed for The New York Times, former supervisory special agent Josh Campbell wrote that "political attacks on the bureau must stop."

"After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love." Campbell wrote.

"Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America's premier law enforcement agency but also the nation\u2019s security," he continued.

"My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible."

Campbell also defended the agency's involvement in the events described in the memo, which alleges the FBI and Department of Justice abused their surveillance powers.

"[E]very statement of fact included in an affidavit for foreign intelligence collection must withstand the scrutiny of at least 10 people in the Department of Justice hierarchy before it is reviewed by an independent court," he wrote.

Campbell goes on to argue it would be "disingenuous" for Republicans to argue that the FBI is "plotting from within" against Trump or in favor of his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, despite text messages between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page seeming to confirm Strzok's political bias against Trump.

"These political attacks on the bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency persuade the public that the FBI cannot be trusted, they will also have succeeded in making our nation less safe," he said.

Campbell's op-ed comes after the publication Friday of Nunes' memo allegedly detailing abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by the FBI.

However, another former intelligence agency operative saw things very differently.

Ray McGovern, 27-year veteran of the CIA and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), exclaims the newly released "Nunes Memo" reveals felony wrongdoing by top members of the FBI and DOJ for misrepresenting evidence to obtain a FISA warrant and may implicate other intelligence officials.

The long-awaited House Intelligence Committee report made public today identifies current and former top officials of the FBI and the Department of Justice as guilty of the felony of misrepresenting evidence required to obtain a court warrant before surveilling American citizens. The target was candidate Donald Trump\u2019s adviser Carter Page.

The main points of what is widely known as the \u201cNunes Memo,\u201d after the House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), have been nicely summarized by blogger Publius Tacitus, who noted that the following very senior officials are now liable for contempt-of-court charges; namely, the current and former members of the FBI and the Department of Justice who signed off on fraudulent applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court: James Comey, Andy McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rob Rosenstein. The following is Publius Tacitus\u2019s summary of the main points:

  • The dubious but celebrated Steele Dossier played a critical role in obtaining approval from the FISA court to carry out surveillance of Carter Page according to former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe.
  • Christopher Steele was getting paid by the DNC and the FBI for the same information.
  • No one at the FBI or the DOJ disclosed to the court that the Steele dossier was paid for by an opposition political campaign.
  • The first FISA warrant was obtained on October 21, 2016 based on a story written by Michael Isikoff for Yahoo News based on information he received directly from Christopher Steele - the FBI did not disclose in the FISA application that Steele was the original source of the information.
  • Christopher Steele was a long-standing FBI "source" but was terminated as a source after telling Mother Jones reporter David Corn that he had a relationship with the FBI.
  • The FBI signers of the FISA applications/renewals were James Comey (three times) and Andrew McCabe.
  • The DOJ signers of the FISA applications/renewals were Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein.
  • Even after Steele was terminated by the FBI, he remained in contact with Deputy Attorney General Bruce Our, whose wife worked for FUSION GPS, a contractor that was deeply involved with the Steele dossier.

From what Michael Isikoff reported in September 2016 it appears that the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence (as well as the FBI) are implicated in spreading the disinformation about Trump and Russia. Isikoff wrote:

"U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials \u2014 including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue. "

"But U.S. officials have since received intelligence reports that during that same three-day trip, Page met with Igor Sechin, a longtime Putin associate and former Russian deputy prime minister who is now the executive chairman of Rosneft, Russian\u2019s leading oil company, a well-placed Western intelligence source tells Yahoo News."


Who were the "intelligence officials" briefing the select members of the House and Senate? That will be one of the next shoes to drop. We are likely to learn in the coming days that John Brennan and Jim Clapper were also trying to help the FBI build a fallacious case against Trump, adds Tacitus.

Indeed, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, has already indicated that his disclosures in the Nunes Memo represent just "one piece of a probably much larger mosaic of what went on."​
 

UncleBuck

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Host Muslim refugees in your home, yoga nazi.
Hell, make a pizza party out of it. ;)

But now to see 2 differing points of view from "intelligence" agents about the memo:

In an op-ed for The New York Times, former supervisory special agent Josh Campbell wrote that "political attacks on the bureau must stop."

"After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love." Campbell wrote.

"Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America's premier law enforcement agency but also the nation\u2019s security," he continued.

"My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible."

Campbell also defended the agency's involvement in the events described in the memo, which alleges the FBI and Department of Justice abused their surveillance powers.

"[E]very statement of fact included in an affidavit for foreign intelligence collection must withstand the scrutiny of at least 10 people in the Department of Justice hierarchy before it is reviewed by an independent court," he wrote.

Campbell goes on to argue it would be "disingenuous" for Republicans to argue that the FBI is "plotting from within" against Trump or in favor of his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, despite text messages between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page seeming to confirm Strzok's political bias against Trump.

"These political attacks on the bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency persuade the public that the FBI cannot be trusted, they will also have succeeded in making our nation less safe," he said.

Campbell's op-ed comes after the publication Friday of Nunes' memo allegedly detailing abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by the FBI.

However, another former intelligence agency operative saw things very differently.

Ray McGovern, 27-year veteran of the CIA and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), exclaims the newly released "Nunes Memo" reveals felony wrongdoing by top members of the FBI and DOJ for misrepresenting evidence to obtain a FISA warrant and may implicate other intelligence officials.

The long-awaited House Intelligence Committee report made public today identifies current and former top officials of the FBI and the Department of Justice as guilty of the felony of misrepresenting evidence required to obtain a court warrant before surveilling American citizens. The target was candidate Donald Trump\u2019s adviser Carter Page.

The main points of what is widely known as the \u201cNunes Memo,\u201d after the House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), have been nicely summarized by blogger Publius Tacitus, who noted that the following very senior officials are now liable for contempt-of-court charges; namely, the current and former members of the FBI and the Department of Justice who signed off on fraudulent applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court: James Comey, Andy McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rob Rosenstein. The following is Publius Tacitus\u2019s summary of the main points:

  • The dubious but celebrated Steele Dossier played a critical role in obtaining approval from the FISA court to carry out surveillance of Carter Page according to former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe.
  • Christopher Steele was getting paid by the DNC and the FBI for the same information.
  • No one at the FBI or the DOJ disclosed to the court that the Steele dossier was paid for by an opposition political campaign.
  • The first FISA warrant was obtained on October 21, 2016 based on a story written by Michael Isikoff for Yahoo News based on information he received directly from Christopher Steele - the FBI did not disclose in the FISA application that Steele was the original source of the information.
  • Christopher Steele was a long-standing FBI "source" but was terminated as a source after telling Mother Jones reporter David Corn that he had a relationship with the FBI.
  • The FBI signers of the FISA applications/renewals were James Comey (three times) and Andrew McCabe.
  • The DOJ signers of the FISA applications/renewals were Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein.
  • Even after Steele was terminated by the FBI, he remained in contact with Deputy Attorney General Bruce Our, whose wife worked for FUSION GPS, a contractor that was deeply involved with the Steele dossier.

From what Michael Isikoff reported in September 2016 it appears that the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence (as well as the FBI) are implicated in spreading the disinformation about Trump and Russia. Isikoff wrote:

"U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials \u2014 including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue. "

"But U.S. officials have since received intelligence reports that during that same three-day trip, Page met with Igor Sechin, a longtime Putin associate and former Russian deputy prime minister who is now the executive chairman of Rosneft, Russian\u2019s leading oil company, a well-placed Western intelligence source tells Yahoo News."


Who were the "intelligence officials" briefing the select members of the House and Senate? That will be one of the next shoes to drop. We are likely to learn in the coming days that John Brennan and Jim Clapper were also trying to help the FBI build a fallacious case against Trump, adds Tacitus.

Indeed, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, has already indicated that his disclosures in the Nunes Memo represent just "one piece of a probably much larger mosaic of what went on."​
when you can never dazzle with brilliance, you must always baffle with bullshit.

poor nazi won't even condemn nazis
 
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