Espoma products?

Jypsy Dog

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Lowe's 40# Bag Gypsum= $4.28 Worm Casting, Gypsum, Espoma Starter Plus. Anything else to add to my Bag of Black Gold? Was thinking some of my 50/50 Coco Perlite mix. Thoughts?? Remember, this is an AUTO Grow. I have the Espoma Regular Bio Tone also. That instead of the Starter Plus?
 

Wetdog

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Lowe's 40# Bag Gypsum= $4.28 Worm Casting, Gypsum, Espoma Starter Plus. Anything else to add to my Bag of Black Gold? Was thinking some of my 50/50 Coco Perlite mix. Thoughts?? Remember, this is an AUTO Grow. I have the Espoma Regular Bio Tone also. That instead of the Starter Plus?
Aside from the lower N and higher P/K of the Tomato tone I've never noticed much of a real world difference between the regular, starter, garden, or whatever gets used. IDK about the 'acid loving', never used it, but everything else I've tried has just given good results.

So, whatever you have that's handy.
 

Raven121415

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I have a question. I mixed my soil with 3 tsp of Bio-Tone Starter Plus per 1 gallon pot about a week before I transplanted my seedlings I germinated in peat pellets into them so it wasn't to hot until the plant had time to establish for a few weeks first. I am now entering veg stage and have been using the liquid organic line Starter and Grow mixed @ 1/2 cap each in a 1/2 gallon ro water. If I skip my next scheduled feed with the liquid feed and made a tea with the Bio-Tone for another myco boost would that work and help make nutes more redily available, or will it take the same time to become available as if I worked into the top 2" of soil?
 

macsnax

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Teas are supposed to feed your myco herd and in turn feeds your plant. I can't remember, what's in bio-tone?
 

macsnax

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You might want to research tea recipes. 4-3-3 is likely to hurt your myco herd more than help. And you want add more things to boost the myco population, like un-sulphered molasses, ewc. I haven't made a tea since summer and don't remember the entire recipe off hand. You'll need an air pump and a stone that won't release any minerals or anything for that matter.
 

Raven121415

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I just built a 5 gal brew bucket by attaching a 1/2" hose with fittings to the bottom side of the bucket. I will attach the pump and airation stone for aquariums and I have some good AACT tea recipes, as well as myco tea recipes. I just didn't know if adding the Bio-Tone to the water and applying it like that would make it more readily available, or would it take the same time as working it directly into the top 2" of soil and watering it in.
 

macsnax

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I just built a 5 gal brew bucket by attaching a 1/2" hose with fittings to the bottom side of the bucket. I will attach the pump and airation stone for aquariums and I have some good AACT tea recipes, as well as myco tea recipes. I just didn't know if adding the Bio-Tone to the water and applying it like that would make it more readily available, or would it take the same time as working it directly into the top 2" of soil and watering it in.
Ok gotcha, if the bio-tone is a big granular type like plant tone, etc. It's not going to break down in a 2-3 day bubble. Some of that stuff takes months to break down in soil.
 

Raven121415

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Ok gotcha, if the bio-tone is a big granular type like plant tone, etc. It's not going to break down in a 2-3 day bubble. Some of that stuff takes months to break down in soil.
Yeah, I noticed. Lol That's what brought me to using their liquid line which is redily available to supliment until the Bio-Tone actually became available. I have good vigorous growth and nice green plants now.
 

macsnax

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Yeah, I noticed. Lol That's what brought me to using their liquid line which is redily available to supliment until the Bio-Tone actually became available. I have good vigorous growth and nice green plants now.
Look at the teas as food for your micros to break down and make food available for your plant. Rather than feeding your plant tea. The oyster shell flour has helped me on some longer (9 plus months) grows in the greenhouse. It keeps plants feeding and happy.
 

Raven121415

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Well, they are absolutely loving the 1-2-2 Liquid Organic Start and 2-2-2 Liquid Organic Grow at 50/50 mix and 3 tsp Bio-Tone Starter Plus topdressed about 2 weeks ago. I will hold off for now with the liquid nutes for them to show yellowing, or reach the 4 week mark to top dress again. The 4-3-3 Bio-Tone Starter Plus has mycorrhiza in it so I would like to use that at full suggested rate and suppliment with the liquid line as needed.
 

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