Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

PCXV

PCXV

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mauricem00 said:
a bad diet only effects the person eating it. a child with an infectious disease is a threat to many other people. that why we quarantine them. are you unable to tell the difference between protecting the population from n outside threat and protecting a person from yourself? if your a 500 pound junk food addict it does not affect me. but if you have Ebola than I want the government to keep you away from me so that I do not get infected. your argument is absurd. anything can be carried to an absurd extreme but that not a rational argument against anything
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Your argument is very rational. But in a health insurance system, or really any healthcare system where doctors treat all life threatening events, the 500lb guy's health problems will likely cost everyone else a little more if he cannot afford those health problems.
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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PCXV said:
Your argument is very rational. But in a health insurance system, or really any healthcare system where doctors treat all life threatening events, the 500lb guy's health problems will likely cost everyone else a little more if he cannot afford those health problems.
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Shared pool, logical sounding but poor argument.
 
Rob Roy

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PCXV said:
Comparing pedophilia with vaccines is completely idiotic. Better?
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The common denominator in both instances is the idea that another persons consent doesn't matter when it comes to sticking something into their body.

You are at least in one instance, defending that, why?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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mauricem00 said:
a bad diet only effects the person eating it. a child with an infectious disease is a threat to many other people. that why we quarantine them. are you unable to tell the difference between protecting the population from n outside threat and protecting a person from yourself? if your a 500 pound junk food addict it does not affect me. but if you have Ebola than I want the government to keep you away from me so that I do not get infected. your argument is absurd. anything can be carried to an absurd extreme but that not a rational argument against anything
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So based on that you believe the government has a right to inject people with or without their consent ?
 
Rob Roy

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Chezus said:
Based on your previous statements thru out the past couple of years. You believe you can inject your dick into a child.
You are the sick one.
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I'll momentarily overlook your rude comment and ask you to answer my question below.

I think before anyone is injected, they ought to have the option of consenting or not consenting.

Are you saying you'd inject a child without consent?
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
I'll momentarily overlook your rude comment and ask you to answer my question below.

I think before anyone is injected, they ought to have the option of consenting or not consenting.

Are you saying you'd inject a child without consent?
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What in the fuck.
You are losing this argument/debate and only digging down deeper. Why would you even think to ask that fucked question. How do you get that was said by what Chezus said?
Chezus said:
Based on your previous statements thru out the past couple of years. You believe you can inject your dick into a child.
You are the sick one.
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Chezus accused you of fucking children and you ask about consent. Rob you are sick dude.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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curious2garden said:
Could you tell me the name of the company that requires this alleged vaccine and the name of the actual vaccine and company that produces it, please.

Until you can do that this is what I know of the search for a S.A. vaccine:
- http://www.who.int/immunization/research/forums_and_initiatives/4_OSchneewind_Staphylococcal_Vaccines_gvirf16.pdf?ua=1
- https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0264410X16301694/1-s2.0-S0264410X16301694-main.pdf?_tid=93fb021e-af71-11e7-b94d-00000aacb35d&acdnat=1507828980_0b11d8d5f7d86e863f114adb97776bfb
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Sorry, I live in a non-friendly state so details would be prohibitive. I will tell you he worked for a prestigious University.
 
curious2garden

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jarvild said:
Sorry, I live in a non-friendly state so details would be prohibitive. I will tell you he worked for a prestigious University.
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Non friendly to what, public health? What a dodge.

No University would force any subject to take a Stage IIb or Stage III investigational vaccine, that would be illegal and a bio-ethics violation that could cost the researchers their licenses. That's Mengele type of scientific research. As for being 'messed up' what precisely does that mean? Objective fact would be helpful here not fear mongering for the scientifically illiterate. But I have done surgical debridement on MRSA patients and frankly if they ever release a vaccine for this I will be in line for one.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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curious2garden said:
Non friendly to what, public health? What a dodge.

No University would force any subject to take a Stage IIb or Stage III investigational vaccine, that would be illegal and a bio-ethics violation that could cost the researchers their licenses. That's Mengele type of scientific research. As for being 'messed up' what precisely does that mean? Objective fact would be helpful here not fear mongering for the scientifically illiterate. But I have done surgical debridement on MRSA patients and frankly if they ever release a vaccine for this I will be in line for one.
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Fair enough! I will ask his wife for details exactly when she comes gets his medicine this weekend. All I know is what they have inferred to me. That he received a vaccine, from that vaccine he experienced major swelling of the brain causing damage to the brain enough that it affected it in a negative way.
 
whitebb2727

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jarvild said:
I personally have a neighbor that got messed up by a mrsa vaccine required by his work. My questions are if it's been made into a law to force vaccination is it really for the safety of the individual or for the profits of the corporations supplying the vaccines.
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I don't have much to say about it. I'm not for forced vaccines. I will say that all my kids have been vaccinated. The ones required for school anyways.

I will say this. The nurse at the heatlh department was going on about how autism and such from vaccines has been debunked.

A couple months later she was like "oh shit". They screwed up and gave my daughter an extra shot. Doubled up on a vaccine by accident. That same nurse went on to ask if I noticed anything wrong. I was like what are you worried about you said they were safe.

Anyways. My daughter has some issues now. Can't say for sure the two a linked. It does make me wonder.

At the same time I still had my other two vaccinated. Not every vaccine they make but what they needed for school anyways.

I took an expiermental Lyme vaccine and anthrax vaccines in the military. The long term effects of neither are known. Makes me wonder about a couple health problems I have.


Saying all of this I still would get my kids vaccinated and recommend others do the same.
 
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UncleBuck

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MichiganMedGrower said:
At least continually repeat the truth you little man.

I said if he saw links that proves nothing. And I have repeated it too many times.

And I never defended anyone. I said you act like an asshole to anyone who you think is wrong and then badger with bullshit.

And I said some would likely post here If you didn't constantly do that.

You are tired old news. Don't you annoy yourself?
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have you never learned about brevity?
 
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