Go Green LEDs Cree CXB3070 grow lights

BobCajun

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ive use both the t5 reptile, the cfl w/ uva uvb, but they only throw limited amounts of benificial light to maybe a foot from bulb.. my enclosure is 5ft from top to bottom, 6ft wide and 3ft deep.. reptiles use heat from the light source and both t5 and cfl;s have little to no heat.. ive been reading about self ballested mercury vapor bulbs that put out both heat and benificial uv light..but ive opted for the 70 watt metal halides, they put out heat and uv and u dont need to replace the bulbs so often...
i went to the store and in the light bulb section it seems everything is now led, even outdoor flood lights,,led... anyways i see alot of plant led lights on amazon that say uv and ir and just wondered if they would work,,im talking the cheap crap that i would never use in my grow room..lol like this one



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Those would be UV-A LEDs in the grow lights. It may have some benefit to plants but not as far as increasing THC, which if it works at all requires UV-B. That type of LED cost a few hundred bucks each, meaning single LEDs. They also don't last long, because UV-B is so damaging, and they would probably need to be within inches of plants, because UV-B drops off very quickly. So in short, no, there are no LED lights that would be suitable for reptiles. At least none anyone other than Bill Gates would want to pay for.
 

TheChemist77

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Those would be UV-A LEDs in the grow lights. It may have some benefit to plants but not as far as increasing THC, which if it works at all requires UV-B. That type of LED cost a few hundred bucks each, meaning single LEDs. They also don't last long, because UV-B is so damaging, and they would probably need to be within inches of plants, because UV-B drops off very quickly. So in short, no, there are no LED lights that would be suitable for reptiles. At least none anyone other than Bill Gates would want to pay for.
i went and bought a few 90 watt metal halide street type rfixtures,, they say that metal halide produce benificial amounts of uva n uvb for reptiles,, they also produce some heat which is good as reptiles get there warmth from above,, heat rocks are somtimes used but can have disasterous effects...its a shame i couldnt use my 400 watt,600,watt mh ballasts n reflectors,, just to much light for the small cage they are in.. 3 90 watt mh's seem to be keeping my iguanas happy n healthy
 

BobCajun

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Actually a halide's not gonna cut it, unless it's a special UV-B one. Pretty much gotta buy the reptile CFLs, or mercury bulbs they sell in pet stores. With a street light halide the reptile will die of vitamin D deficiency. They use a type of glass that blocks virtually all UV-B, for human safety reasons. There, I saved a life. Poor little Myron, or whatever, would have been a goner. On the good side, you can use the halides for growing dope, so not a total waste.
 
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Big smo

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Those would be UV-A LEDs in the grow lights. It may have some benefit to plants but not as far as increasing THC, which if it works at all requires UV-B. That type of LED cost a few hundred bucks each, meaning single LEDs. They also don't last long, because UV-B is so damaging, and they would probably need to be within inches of plants, because UV-B drops off very quickly. So in short, no, there are no LED lights that would be suitable for reptiles. At least none anyone other than Bill Gates would want to pay for.
I guess the 18" t8 in my cob light that's 30" away from the tops of the plants is just wasting energy than. If a cob can't do it there is no way a flouro can
 

GoGreenLEDs

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ok great, thanks. I had it at 17 - 18" away from the top of the seedling. Leaves were looking a little whiter than Im used too. Too much intensity?
Yeah, maybe just a little too close, probably fine with 1 switch (half power) at that distance.
 

TheChemist77

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Actually a halide's not gonna cut it, unless it's a special UV-B one. Pretty much gotta buy the reptile CFLs, or mercury bulbs they sell in pet stores. With a street light halide the reptile will die of vitamin D deficiency. They use a type of glass that blocks virtually all UV-B, for human safety reasons. There, I saved a life. Poor little Myron, or whatever, would have been a goner. On the good side, you can use the halides for growing dope, so not a total waste.
are u sure? i went on google and put in,,, best lighting for reptile,, and it gave 4 1 cfl, 2 flourecent, 3 mercury vapor, 4 metal halide
 

BobCajun

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are u sure? i went on google and put in,,, best lighting for reptile,, and it gave 4 1 cfl, 2 flourecent, 3 mercury vapor, 4 metal halide
I'm pretty sure, let's put it that way. You would need as much UV as the sun, and obviously if halides had that then everyone who used them for normal lighting would get skin cancer, which would probably not be good for business. I don't know how much UV your reptile needs but if it's one of the ones that need it to make vitamin D then a normal halide will not work. Here's the spectrum of a halide. UVB is 280-315 nm and this drops right off at 350. I did find a page that said halides were good for reps but maybe he's full of it.

I can't say for absolutely certain that the rep would die, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's pretty common knowledge to anyone involved with lighting that the glass of commercial HID lights block UV, which is why if the glass ever breaks it would be a bad idea to hang around or look at it, if it's still on. BTW it would be true to say that halides put out "UV", just that it's only UV-A, and not even much of that.

 
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TheChemist77

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I'm pretty sure, let's put it that way. You would need as much UV as the sun, and obviously if halides had that then everyone who used them for normal lighting would get skin cancer, which would probably not be good for business. I don't know how much UV your reptile needs but if it's one of the ones that need it to make vitamin D then a normal halide will not work. Here's the spectrum of a halide. UVB is 280-315 nm and this drops right off at 350. I did find a page that said halides were good for reps but maybe he's full of it. I can't say for absolutely certain that the rep would die, but it wouldn't surprise me.



thanks for the info,,, i am looking into this,, i have iguanas.. i was going between mercury vapor n metal halide and thought the mh came in lower wattages,, i paid $150.00 for 3 ballast w hood that look like street lamp fixtures,,each is 90 watts.. guess i shouldve went with mercury vapor,, i couldve got 3 150watt self ballasted bulbs at amazon for $25.00 each
 

BobCajun

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thanks for the info,,, i am looking into this,, i have iguanas.. i was going between mercury vapor n metal halide and thought the mh came in lower wattages,, i paid $150.00 for 3 ballast w hood that look like street lamp fixtures,,each is 90 watts.. guess i shouldve went with mercury vapor,, i couldve got 3 150watt self ballasted bulbs at amazon for $25.00 each
Yup, merc vapor is what they sell in pet stores. I don't know if they're even just stock ones, may have a special glass for UVB. Seriously just go to a pet store and buy a proper rep light dude. You're playing with Iggy's life and comfort. Like I said, you can still use the halides for growing weed, so not so bad actually. Otherwise you probably would have bought a HPS and got stretchy plants.
 

BobCajun

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Actually there are halide UV lights, made specially for reptiles. You can't use regular halides though. Come to think of it, might be a good lamp for growing with, since it says it's like the midday sun. It says they're a new item, in limited production, so probably nobody tried them for growing yet. Might cost a lot more than regular halides though. I couldn't tell from the page what the wattage is for the $139. I think it's only 70w, from the "test" pdf linked.
 
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TheChemist77

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Actually there are halide UV lights, made specially for reptiles. You can't use regular halides though. Come to think of it, might be a good lamp for growing with, since it says it's like the midday sun. It says they're a new item, in limited production, so probably nobody tried them for growing yet. Might cost a lot more than regular halides though. I couldn't tell from the page what the wattage is for the $139. I think it's only 70w, from the "test" pdf linked.
thanks again,, im currentlty using the flourecent T5 DESERT UV BULBS ALONG WITH CFL,S AND THE MH FOR HEAT.. in my grow room my veg room has 1 315 watt cmh and 1 100 watt 4k go green,, my bloom room has 2 315's and 2 3k 100 watt go greens and 1 4k 100 watt go green...
 

BobCajun

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thanks again,, im currentlty using the flourecent T5 DESERT UV BULBS ALONG WITH CFL,S AND THE MH FOR HEAT.. in my grow room my veg room has 1 315 watt cmh and 1 100 watt 4k go green,, my bloom room has 2 315's and 2 3k 100 watt go greens and 1 4k 100 watt go green...
Oh I see, you already have better lights for growing.
 

GoGreenLEDs

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TheChemist77

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We're having a big sale on our 2 COB lights right now. Use coupon code BOGO and get 50% off ($219-->$109.50). We have overstock on 3000k and 4000k. These will make a great addition to any garden, at $1per watt COB. They will go fast at this price.

Heres a link to the 3000k: http://www.gogreenleds.com/store/p2/2_COB_3000k_100W_Citizen_Grow_Light.html

and the 4000k link here: http://www.gogreenleds.com/store/p41/2_COB_4000k_100W_Citizen_Grow_Light.html

whatb distance do u recomend keeping the 100 watt citizen cobs above canopy?
i have a 4x6 table covered by 2 315 watt cmh 2ft above canopy, and 2 100 watt citizen go green 3000k, and 1 100 watt citizen go green 4k ive been keeping at the same height as the ceramics.. i wonder if they should be closer?? the 100 watt citizens look to have nice penitration but buds directly under the cobs are a bit smaller than buds directly under the ceramics,, do i need to lower the height?? im worried if i lower them theyll burn the tops???
the mix of ceramic and cob's has increased my gpw, greater potency, i also use a 100 w 4k citizen in veg,, it is great
 

whitebb2727

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Those would be UV-A LEDs in the grow lights. It may have some benefit to plants but not as far as increasing THC, which if it works at all requires UV-B. That type of LED cost a few hundred bucks each, meaning single LEDs. They also don't last long, because UV-B is so damaging, and they would probably need to be within inches of plants, because UV-B drops off very quickly. So in short, no, there are no LED lights that would be suitable for reptiles. At least none anyone other than Bill Gates would want to pay for.
Uva works also.

Htg Agromax makes a uva bulb specific to horticulture.

I have used it and it worked.
 

BobCajun

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People have tried adding black lights and it didn't help. That's what UVA is, black light. Get some black lights and try it if you want. Just don't expect much benefit. I didn't see any when I tried them, though it was just small CFLs.
 

GoGreenLEDs

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Hi RIU,

Its a great day. In celebration to recent news in Canada we are lowering our prices to open growing opportunities to everyone by making COB lighting affordable.
 
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