How many people understand the US Constitution?

Joomby

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Not that it means shit as I took on my Irish dads ginger genes. Why do feel like your going to Jack off to my skin pic. Now uncle buck I want you to write the date on your skin with my user name joomby next to it and post it within 5mins or your entire black man degrade has been debunked
 

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TacoMac

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Not that it means shit as I took on my Irish dads ginger genes. Why do feel like your going to Jack off to my skin pic. Now uncle buck I want you to write the date on your skin with my user name joomby next to it and post it within 5mins or your entire black man degrade has been debunked
I'm pure white (of German decent) and I'm darker than that.
 

tampee

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tell us more about how a black person buying lunch is totally "initiating force" like slavery, rape, and theft.
If the black man works at McDonald's he is a slave. The company fucks him then the government fucks him by taking taxes and then he is forced to pay more taxes just to buy lunch.

Slavery and theft we have but plenty of white slaves these days.:) Even Jew slaves I'm sure. :bigjoint:

Which is pretty funny since the Jews are probably the first people to keep slaves because Egypt did not have slaves but the Jews most certainly did.bongsmilie
 

DiogenesTheWiser

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He is a feudalist. His "philosophy" is that of anarchocapitalism, which is an oxymoron since private property can not exist in the absence of gov't. He simply wants the state apparatus privatized.
Yes, I understand that @Rob Roy hates government and has theorized about a government that lacks coercive power, which is not a government at all. It's kind of like drawing a circle and calling it a square. Naming it something that people can recognize doesn't make it a governmental system.

I'm quite certain about Roy's intentions with this kind of governmental theory. He wants to be able to do whatever the hell he wants to do, i.e. kill people, rape people, use any drug, and sell poison to people.

When I was an undergraduate philosophy major, we oftentimes had these nutcase anarcho-syndicalists come through our classes and offer these crackpot theories. They always had a problem with terminology--calling "government" a loose association that holds no real power. Take power out of "government" and it ceases to be a "government."

I get it. But @roby Roy thinks he's clever. If such a system existed--such an anarchy-based system, it would be extremely harsh and only the strong and well-armed would survive, and they would establish a governmental system with power. Becuase without government, little else is possible.

There was a time period on earth when governments did not exist. This time period pre-existed the neolithic agricultural revolution, when humans hunted over large swaths of land in bands of 30 to 40 people. They moved with the game, and did not live in settled communities. There were some ironic advantages to this system, for example, men, women, and children all participated in hunts (acc. to archeological evidence), revealing that there wasn't a sexual division of labor. Moreover, people in these hunter-gatherer bands didn't experience tooth decay, nor did they suffer from many of the diseases that people in settled communities much later in human history experienced. There's debate if these bands had a leader or not, which would indicate government of some sort.

the point of understanding hunter-gatherer bands is that they didn't write anything down, probably didn't even have written language. They didn't theorize about their origins. They didn't build settled communities and they didn't leave records of their existence such as buildings, literature, mathematics, etc. All of these things became possible once human beings gradually transitioned to settled communities through the domestication of plants and animals that served as food source. Population exploded and then government had to be created to protect and sustain the food source for a growing population.

Once you add large numbers of people to a society, you must have a coercion-based government or else enemies will take you over or your people will starve to death. That's a fact of human history. @Rob Roy can theorize all day about his perfect anarchist system, but it would never exist in real time anymore, and if it did, it'd resemble the traveling bands of hunter-gatherers and would appear post-apocalyptic given our standards in modern society.
 

Rob Roy

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It's all about winning and losing for folks like you, isn't it?

Better context please. If you meant debating / discussing things... I'd happily change my point of view if you could offer evidence of why your point of view is correct. By that I mean logical and without having to rely on holding two opposing points of view at once.

If you meant life in general, no it's not about winning or losing, it's about understanding.

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DiogenesTheWiser

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Better context please. If you meant debating / discussing things... I'd happily change my point of view if you could offer evidence of why your point of view is correct. By that I mean logical and without having to rely on holding two opposing points of view at once.

If you meant life in general, no it's not about winning or losing, it's about understanding.

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I understand you quite well and your positions quite well, and I disagree with those positions.
 

Rob Roy

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Yes, I understand that @Rob Roy hates government and has theorized about a government that lacks coercive power, which is not a government at all. It's kind of like drawing a circle and calling it a square. Naming it something that people can recognize doesn't make it a governmental system.

I'm quite certain about Roy's intentions with this kind of governmental theory. He wants to be able to do whatever the hell he wants to do, i.e. kill people, rape people, use any drug, and sell poison to people.

When I was an undergraduate philosophy major, we oftentimes had these nutcase anarcho-syndicalists come through our classes and offer these crackpot theories. They always had a problem with terminology--calling "government" a loose association that holds no real power. Take power out of "government" and it ceases to be a "government."

I get it. But @roby Roy thinks he's clever. If such a system existed--such an anarchy-based system, it would be extremely harsh and only the strong and well-armed would survive, and they would establish a governmental system with power. Becuase without government, little else is possible.

There was a time period on earth when governments did not exist. This time period pre-existed the neolithic agricultural revolution, when humans hunted over large swaths of land in bands of 30 to 40 people. They moved with the game, and did not live in settled communities. There were some ironic advantages to this system, for example, men, women, and children all participated in hunts (acc. to archeological evidence), revealing that there wasn't a sexual division of labor. Moreover, people in these hunter-gatherer bands didn't experience tooth decay, nor did they suffer from many of the diseases that people in settled communities much later in human history experienced. There's debate if these bands had a leader or not, which would indicate government of some sort.

the point of understanding hunter-gatherer bands is that they didn't write anything down, probably didn't even have written language. They didn't theorize about their origins. They didn't build settled communities and they didn't leave records of their existence such as buildings, literature, mathematics, etc. All of these things became possible once human beings gradually transitioned to settled communities through the domestication of plants and animals that served as food source. Population exploded and then government had to be created to protect and sustain the food source for a growing population.

Once you add large numbers of people to a society, you must have a coercion-based government or else enemies will take you over or your people will starve to death. That's a fact of human history. @Rob Roy can theorize all day about his perfect anarchist system, but it would never exist in real time anymore, and if it did, it'd resemble the traveling bands of hunter-gatherers and would appear post-apocalyptic given our standards in modern society.

I'm sorry I didn't respond right away.
Yes, I understand that @Rob Roy hates government and has theorized about a government that lacks coercive power, which is not a government at all. It's kind of like drawing a circle and calling it a square. Naming it something that people can recognize doesn't make it a governmental system.

I'm quite certain about Roy's intentions with this kind of governmental theory. He wants to be able to do whatever the hell he wants to do, i.e. kill people, rape people, use any drug, and sell poison to people.

When I was an undergraduate philosophy major, we oftentimes had these nutcase anarcho-syndicalists come through our classes and offer these crackpot theories. They always had a problem with terminology--calling "government" a loose association that holds no real power. Take power out of "government" and it ceases to be a "government."

I get it. But @roby Roy thinks he's clever. If such a system existed--such an anarchy-based system, it would be extremely harsh and only the strong and well-armed would survive, and they would establish a governmental system with power. Becuase without government, little else is possible.

There was a time period on earth when governments did not exist. This time period pre-existed the neolithic agricultural revolution, when humans hunted over large swaths of land in bands of 30 to 40 people. They moved with the game, and did not live in settled communities. There were some ironic advantages to this system, for example, men, women, and children all participated in hunts (acc. to archeological evidence), revealing that there wasn't a sexual division of labor. Moreover, people in these hunter-gatherer bands didn't experience tooth decay, nor did they suffer from many of the diseases that people in settled communities much later in human history experienced. There's debate if these bands had a leader or not, which would indicate government of some sort.

the point of understanding hunter-gatherer bands is that they didn't write anything down, probably didn't even have written language. They didn't theorize about their origins. They didn't build settled communities and they didn't leave records of their existence such as buildings, literature, mathematics, etc. All of these things became possible once human beings gradually transitioned to settled communities through the domestication of plants and animals that served as food source. Population exploded and then government had to be created to protect and sustain the food source for a growing population.

Once you add large numbers of people to a society, you must have a coercion-based government or else enemies will take you over or your people will starve to death. That's a fact of human history. @Rob Roy can theorize all day about his perfect anarchist system, but it would never exist in real time anymore, and if it did, it'd resemble the traveling bands of hunter-gatherers and would appear post-apocalyptic given our standards in modern society.
I'm sorry I didn't reply right away. I was out raping and pillaging. Lol.

That's quite a pile of conjecture you've constructed. Let me help return you to your senses by asking a few questions which you will likely not answer.

Would you say that the use of offensive force should be rejected by a "civilized" society ?
 

DiogenesTheWiser

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I'm sorry I didn't respond right away.


I'm sorry I didn't reply right away. I was out raping and pillaging. Lol.

That's quite a pile of conjecture you've constructed. Let me help return you to your senses by asking a few questions which you will likely not answer.

Would you say that the use of offensive force should be rejected by a "civilized" society ?
What is offensive force?
 

UncleBuck

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If the black man works at McDonald's he is a slave. The company fucks him then the government fucks him by taking taxes and then he is forced to pay more taxes just to buy lunch.

Slavery and theft we have but plenty of white slaves these days.:) Even Jew slaves I'm sure. :bigjoint:

Which is pretty funny since the Jews are probably the first people to keep slaves because Egypt did not have slaves but the Jews most certainly did.bongsmilie
how much child pornography have you watched this morning?
 

DiogenesTheWiser

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that's his terminology for when a black person orders breakfast at a restaurant and tries to pay with cash, like any other customer.
Yeah, I get that Roby Roy is a segregationist and child molester. That's why most of these anarcho types argue what they do. And it's complete fantasy. There's like no chance whatsoever that there'll ever be a "government" that doesn't have coercive power. Human beings are social creatures and as such, government will always be necessary or else life as we know it would cease.
 
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