Removal of Confederate symbols enrages Nazi whites

DiogenesTheWiser

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/mayor-charlottesville-calls-pro-confederate-rallies-horrific/story?id=47404820

Yes, Dick Spencer, the Duke graduate student who quit because he couldn't pass his comprehensive exams has been rousing some rabble. He got this torch-lit procession of fellow Nazis to march around Charlottesville, Virginia.

From the history of Confederate symbols--these were erected by the children of Confederate veterans (for the most part) some 30-40 years after the conflict had ended, and they coincided with the revising or rewriting of ex-Confederate state constitutions to encode racial discrimination and white supremacy into the respective states' governments.

And the statues of people like Lee or Davis especially are completely inappropriate. Both warred against the United States after previously swearing to defend the U.S. against all foes foreign and domestic. Not only that, but Lee and Davis were reviled by southerners during the war. Lee was called "king of spades" for leading crews of slaves in building defenses of Richmond in 1861 and 1862. After he was elevated to commanding general of Army of Northern Virginia, both Richmond and Charleston papers raked his battle tactics over the coals, and warned him that the South didn't have that many men to serve as mere cannon fodder (casualty rates in Lee's army approached 50%).

Davis was even more hated, so hated that when he fled the Confederacy in the spring of 1865, very few southerners assisted him and even sold information to the Yankees who quickly discovered the Confederate president wearing a frock like a peasant girl.

Anyone defending these Nazis please spare me the bit about concealment of history. The entire records of the war exist at various archival libraries across the nation, and the Complete Papers of the Confederacy are bound and can be obtained at any American library through interlibrary loan. That's where the real history of the Civil War can be found--not in statutes honoring treasonous southern officials that were erected some four decades after the war ended.
 

schuylaar

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/mayor-charlottesville-calls-pro-confederate-rallies-horrific/story?id=47404820

Yes, Dick Spencer, the Duke graduate student who quit because he couldn't pass his comprehensive exams has been rousing some rabble. He got this torch-lit procession of fellow Nazis to march around Charlottesville, Virginia.

From the history of Confederate symbols--these were erected by the children of Confederate veterans (for the most part) some 30-40 years after the conflict had ended, and they coincided with the revising or rewriting of ex-Confederate state constitutions to encode racial discrimination and white supremacy into the respective states' governments.

And the statues of people like Lee or Davis especially are completely inappropriate. Both warred against the United States after previously swearing to defend the U.S. against all foes foreign and domestic. Not only that, but Lee and Davis were reviled by southerners during the war. Lee was called "king of spades" for leading crews of slaves in building defenses of Richmond in 1861 and 1862. After he was elevated to commanding general of Army of Northern Virginia, both Richmond and Charleston papers raked his battle tactics over the coals, and warned him that the South didn't have that many men to serve as mere cannon fodder (casualty rates in Lee's army approached 50%).

Davis was even more hated, so hated that when he fled the Confederacy in the spring of 1865, very few southerners assisted him and even sold information to the Yankees who quickly discovered the Confederate president wearing a frock like a peasant girl.

Anyone defending these Nazis please spare me the bit about concealment of history. The entire records of the war exist at various archival libraries across the nation, and the Complete Papers of the Confederacy are bound and can be obtained at any American library through interlibrary loan. That's where the real history of the Civil War can be found--not in statutes honoring treasonous southern officials that were erected some four decades after the war ended.

That's why NOT knowing history, it repeats. Tell it like it was and who these men REALLY were- HATED in their time and NOT to be honored!
 

schuylaar

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awww, look at you standing up for the tiki torch white power folks!



bears no resemblance to anything i've ever seen.



i feel bad for the black community they are trying to intimidate with their KKK torch mob.

and for the poor jacket that houses your lynch mob's fat leader.

Is Khaki their colors?
 

Fender Super

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/mayor-charlottesville-calls-pro-confederate-rallies-horrific/story?id=47404820

Yes, Dick Spencer, the Duke graduate student who quit because he couldn't pass his comprehensive exams has been rousing some rabble. He got this torch-lit procession of fellow Nazis to march around Charlottesville, Virginia.

From the history of Confederate symbols--these were erected by the children of Confederate veterans (for the most part) some 30-40 years after the conflict had ended, and they coincided with the revising or rewriting of ex-Confederate state constitutions to encode racial discrimination and white supremacy into the respective states' governments.

And the statues of people like Lee or Davis especially are completely inappropriate. Both warred against the United States after previously swearing to defend the U.S. against all foes foreign and domestic. Not only that, but Lee and Davis were reviled by southerners during the war. Lee was called "king of spades" for leading crews of slaves in building defenses of Richmond in 1861 and 1862. After he was elevated to commanding general of Army of Northern Virginia, both Richmond and Charleston papers raked his battle tactics over the coals, and warned him that the South didn't have that many men to serve as mere cannon fodder (casualty rates in Lee's army approached 50%).

Davis was even more hated, so hated that when he fled the Confederacy in the spring of 1865, very few southerners assisted him and even sold information to the Yankees who quickly discovered the Confederate president wearing a frock like a peasant girl.

Anyone defending these Nazis please spare me the bit about concealment of history. The entire records of the war exist at various archival libraries across the nation, and the Complete Papers of the Confederacy are bound and can be obtained at any American library through interlibrary loan. That's where the real history of the Civil War can be found--not in statutes honoring treasonous southern officials that were erected some four decades after the war ended.
Read this book.
 

Fender Super

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I don't need to read the book. I already agree with its thesis. I live in the South and in this place sure as hell isn't America! It's the Confederacy!
I am constantly stunned by seemingly progressive and smart people (my wife included) who think all southern secession would do is create perpetual war, but aren't we in that already, in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria? Bring the war home, kill American rednecks. WIN-WIN!!!
 

DiogenesTheWiser

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I am constantly stunned by seemingly progressive and smart people (my wife included) who think all southern secession would do is create perpetual war, but aren't we in that already, in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria? Bring the war home, kill American rednecks. WIN-WIN!!!
I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion based on my tongue-in-cheek comment.
 

Fender Super

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I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion based on my tongue-in-cheek comment.
Not about you, your position is clear. I mean like my wife, my sister, my brother in law, my best friend, others. They cannot see the DSA is already hopelessly polarized, never to be united, again. There's a great song by the Who called "I've Known No War," (yt vid below) that describes all post-boomer generations. While the Boomers didn't come along until just after the war, we are THE post-war generation, and the history and details of that war were taught in a much more graphic and 'attached to reality,' way than all post-boomer generations, who all got very sanitized versions. Bring back the draft. No deferments for shitting your pants like that cocksucker Ted Nugent.

 
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