Who you gonna call? Myth busters!

Gquebed

Gquebed

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Dr. Who said:
For ANY "blurple" unit - even the stupid $3000.00+ 1K actual output with UV (no it don't) and HIR (Emerson effect is over rated without proper spectral balance) ended NM banded ones.....

Now you COB guys,,,,,I'm interested!
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Doooooo
It.
The cobs, i mean.
Just do it.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Kingrow1 said:
Ill state the case.... :-)

Bs light spectrums that try to make hps look inferior when hps still grows fat ass dank buds, somthing your saying aint right there and even led growers have arguments over full spectrum vs par and ppfd etc.

Secondly you need to admit plus get over the fact that multiple 3watt light sources is inferior to single point light sources.

Cob growers now rubbish the claims they made about the pre cob leds they once danced round like they were some amazing alien tech or what not. You want me to believe a bullshitter twice....?

Lastly a kilowatt hour of electricity from my national supplier is the same wether you run led or hps or even flouro, leds are not cheaper to run on this basis.

The decent led growers appreciate these scientific facts and dont run round preaching like hps is dead and far from. Leds are great just not the
e be all and end all like some seem to want once they shell out a grand for the latest tech.
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Dont dispute anything you say.

But i will say i was a skeptic for LEDs. Loved me my hps.

Then i tried COB. First run was a bit of a disaster. But even so i knew i would not go back to hps. And i have heard that over and over again from guys who have gone to COBs.
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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Johnny Lawrence said:
Nobody reputable that frequents that section makes any of the claims that you say they're making. If you could source a bunch of threads/posts that indicate otherwise, please provide them. Or better yet, go over to the LED section and create a thread about how you're sick of everyone at RIU claiming that LEDs make tastier weed that gets you higher.
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that would be like going to the politics section and posting a I love trump thread, no thanks, i'm better off just trolling them the way i have for years, with facts.
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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LMFAO

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Not doubting you on this because honestly I don't know, but what is the science behind your claim?
I agree, I have run the same cuttings many times under HPS and LED. When run under LED I get more color, more flavor and subjectively more potency. Greengenes is having a test done to check into the difference in cannabinoids between blue dream nugs under HPS and red/white/blue LED.

Buddha Tahoe OG under 600W HPS:


Same cutting under red/white/blue LED


Same cutting under 3000K LED



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assuming initial cost is not a factor, but instead total overall cost for running 1 calendar is compared
High quality LED will very significantly outperform the HPS and you may save a large amount on cooling. Of course not all LED lamps are created equal. I would recommend the Apache, Area 51 or Onyx Bloom. They are all about 30% efficient. If you build your own lamp and up front cost is no issue, you could go as high as 56% efficient.

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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:
LMFAO

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Not doubting you on this because honestly I don't know, but what is the science behind your claim?
I agree, I have run the same cuttings many times under HPS and LED. When run under LED I get more color, more flavor and subjectively more potency. Greengenes is having a test done to check into the difference in cannabinoids between blue dream nugs under HPS and red/white/blue LED.

Buddha Tahoe OG under 600W HPS:


Same cutting under red/white/blue LED


Same cutting under 3000K LED



↑
assuming initial cost is not a factor, but instead total overall cost for running 1 calendar is compared
High quality LED will very significantly outperform the HPS and you may save a large amount on cooling. Of course not all LED lamps are created equal. I would recommend the Apache, Area 51 or Onyx Bloom. They are all about 30% efficient. If you build your own lamp and up front cost is no issue, you could go as high as 56% efficient.

Last edited: Jul 14, 2014
CXB3590 1500W
Organic Soil Mix
SupraSPL, Jul 14, 2014Report
#22LikeReplyhttps://www.rollitup.org/t/led-vs-hid-double-ended-bulb.837617/page-2
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2104? thats an old one
 
Joomby

Joomby

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:
LMFAO

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Not doubting you on this because honestly I don't know, but what is the science behind your claim?
I agree, I have run the same cuttings many times under HPS and LED. When run under LED I get more color, more flavor and subjectively more potency. Greengenes is having a test done to check into the difference in cannabinoids between blue dream nugs under HPS and red/white/blue LED.

Buddha Tahoe OG under 600W HPS:


Same cutting under red/white/blue LED


Same cutting under 3000K LED



↑
assuming initial cost is not a factor, but instead total overall cost for running 1 calendar is compared
High quality LED will very significantly outperform the HPS and you may save a large amount on cooling. Of course not all LED lamps are created equal. I would recommend the Apache, Area 51 or Onyx Bloom. They are all about 30% efficient. If you build your own lamp and up front cost is no issue, you could go as high as 56% efficient.

Last edited: Jul 14, 2014
CXB3590 1500W
Organic Soil Mix
SupraSPL, Jul 14, 2014Report
#22LikeReplyhttps://www.rollitup.org/t/led-vs-hid-double-ended-bulb.837617/page-2
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Pics are working again!
 
Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:
typical led guy reply when presented with facts
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You stated that the people who frequent the led section of RIU claim better tasting, more potent weed with LEDs. When asked for proof, you post a single thread from 3 years ago. Nice work, Columbo. Seriously, fail harder.

And then you go off and actually admit to being proud of being a troll? That says just about everything.
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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Johnny Lawrence said:
You stated that the people who frequent the led section of RIU claim better tasting, more potent weed with LEDs. When asked for proof, you post a single thread from 3 years ago. Nice work, Columbo. Seriously, fail harder.

And then you go off and actually admit to being proud of being a troll? That says just about everything.
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LOL, just tuck your tail and run little man
 
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