Something People Ought to Know

Joomby

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So why do you sign as the beast? If it's (the bible GOD etc) all fake why support the "fake" beast. And if it Is real, which it is, why support the beast? For you know where the mark of the beast comes from, it Also declares that he will be cast into the lake of fire for all eternity.

So if it's fake why focus on childish fables? If it's Real, why worship death and destruction. Satan comes to Only Steal, Kill, and Destroy. He deceives. JESUS CHRIST Loves All and condemns none, and THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH WHO Guides us into All Truth.

Peace and Love Brother.
Just think, if it's all fake then why am I focused on a part of the fable? Let it all go... But it's because deep down we Know there's more to what meets the eye.
The religion of Satan Has contributed to the least amount of religious deaths/murders! So if you think about it Satan worship is the nicest religion and let's face it he is god's rival, brother and blood,dont hate him because he's red and scary that's just racist
 

cannakis

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The religion of Satan Has contributed to the least amount of religious deaths/murders! So if you think about it Satan worship is the nicest religion and let's face it he is god's rival, brother and blood,dont hate him because he's red and scary that's just racist
Has it? The Religion of Satan teaches pedophilia and murder of innocence, to deceive and lie. The "religion of satan" has only been around since the 60s "officially", and Roman Catholicism has killed more True Servants of JESUS CHRIST than any other religion or people I believe. But that's the difference, The True Religion of JESUS CHRIST is True Love, Mercy, and Life for All no matter what, to give your life for All Others even your enemies, not condemnation which is what most "churches" preach. The True Religion of satan (not the politically correct "luciferianism", which Albert Pike was a defendant of the "institution of slavery", Aleister Crowley wrote in his "book of magic" directions for pedophilia to obtain their "energy", The Child's Innocence. FUCKING SICK!) but the Religion of satan is that of Theivery, Murder, and Death; satan is the father of lies. The Religion of satan has been All the Murderous religions that have existed during Every Age and within Every Culture, remember even JESUS'S own people murdered HIM. Haha and it's not racist, and they're not brothers, GOD created satan as an Angel of Light but he was rebellious and wished to be greater than GOD so he was cast to the earth, or as luciferianism teaches satan was trying give us the light but "evil" GOD wouldn't let him, and so there's been a war for Knowledge ever since... or is that all a lie?!?! Just saying, read "The Gospel of JESUS CHRIST according to John" (The Book of John) and see for yourself what JESUS CHRIST teaches. Not what Catholicism teaches, or Mormonism, or any other sect or religion. JESUS CHRIST is the True Religion of Love and Mercy for all. Don't be deceived, read for yourself. Because hey that's why satan gave his life for you, to expand your knowledge. Right?
 

cannakis

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this should be a PM man..
religion has no place here.
And since jesus Christ, the holy spirit, and god are all one (as a fable anyways), I beg to disagree on the statement that he "loves all and condemns none"
The many, many stories in the bible contradict that clearly.
either way, religious arguments belong in different areas for this...
It's a sticky...
in the Old Testament definitely, but that's the thing JESUS CHRIST fulfilled the law (the condemnation) and said HE doesn't condemn anyone Moses did that. Like I said Read, don't be deceived.
 

Dmannn

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I haven’t read the whole threaf but “fresh” or “wet” manure or amendments may create heat when they begins to dry out. This is what “organic burn” comes from. The roots are cooking as the organic matter heats up because of decomposition, stunting or killing a plant.
 

RetiredGuerilla

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I've seen a whole bunch of threads on here about people complaining that their organic nutes just aren't cutting it, their plant is showing lots of micronute deficiencies, etc etc.

What people need to understand is that when they grow "organic" it is a process. I'll explain how plants get nutrition from the soil, and then it will become pretty damn obvious why your plants aren't really getting the "love" that they need.

First thing is first, when you just dump a bunch of organic matter into a pot you aren't doing shit. Well actually, more often than not all you're adding is shit, but anyway... The whole way that organics work is a process. Once you have organic matter in an area you will attract tiny little bugs that can eat that matter. After they start chowing down, their predators, more tiny bugs, are attracted to the same area. These predators start to eat away at the bugs and the bugs, either through deification or death, exude nutrition into the soil that plants can eat. Plants CANNOT eat organic matter as it is.

What do we know about bacteria and fungi (the tiny bugs)? That their presence and growth is exponential. What does this mean? It means that you will start with 1-100 little critters eating your stuff, and, after a while, you'll end up with millions. You obviously won't have very much nutrition coming from 1-100 little critters, but you will have a sufficient amount coming from millions-billions. This is why soil recipes call for you to WAIT. Just look at subcool's recipe. He says you ought to wait a month, at that point your soil will be full of nutrition and ready to support some plant life.

How exactly are nutrients absorbed through the rhizosphere? The rhizosphere refers to the area around the roots of a plant. Your roots are covered with hydrogen, a cation, which they exchange for other cations as well as attract anions. This is basic chemistry. Obviously if you just put a bunch of organic matter in your pot then the microbes will not have a chance to exude any cations or anions, thus the roots will have nothing to exchange for their hydrogen. If the clay and humus (sand is too large to carry anions or cations) in your soil has a sufficient amount of nutrition then it will exchange its cations for the hydrogen on the roots. This is how the plant gets it nutrients. The rate at which a plant can absorb nutrition is referred to as its CEC (cation exchange rate). The higher it is, the more nutrition your plant can absorb. However their is a limit to a good thing. You don't want your CEC to get too high because that will make it so your roots cannot get sufficient oxygen and/or water and your soil will also have very poor drainage. Balance is the key to a good soil as it is the key to good growing.

The way salt based nutrients (chemical ferts) give your plant nutrition is by skipping the whole process of microbes exuding food and going straight to the roots. Obviously what is not used by the plant is then left in your soil and acts as a build up that can be used later. Most of the time this salt build up is unwanted though and that's why flushing became common practice. Chemical ferts provide immediate, and most of the time, good results. However, the salt based nutrition coming from your chemical ferts results in the death of your microbes. Your soil will no longer be able to provide nutrition to your plants and you will rely solely on ferts to feed your plant. That's why as time goes on you need to add more and more ferts to your grow. There is nothing wrong with this at all, but if you plan on going the route of chemical ferts, don't waste your time with a soil recipe and "organic nutrition."

When adding nutrients remember that their needs to be a balance. This goes back to the anion and cation discussion. Calcium, potassium, sodium, magnesium, iron, ammonium and hydrogen are cations. While chloride, sulfate, nitrate, and phosphate are anions. Remember that cations hang out in the soil, thus the anions must be repelled (again basic chemistry here). What does this mean? When adding nutrition realize that the anions that are not immediately absorbed will be repelled out of your soil solution. If the soil is in a contained area then they will form a cluster of their own away from your clay and humus. This will call for a flush to get rid of them. This is also why you should be careful what nutrition you buy. I've literally seen 0-50-0 in a hydro store before. I literally asked the worker if he was fucking kidding me with that useless nute and he said though he highly suggests against it, many people buy it because they read that phosphorous makes bigger buds. Though P does help out your flowers, all 0-50-0 will do is cause huge fucking problems. In a balanced recipe all the nutrition will be used and you will not experience nute burn. If you are getting nute burn, rethink about what nutes you are using and find a more balanced recipe.

Hope this helps clear up some confusion. If you would like to read more about the topic of organic gardening and nutrition, Teaming with Microbes is your book. Literally everything I covered here is covered in the first two chapters of that book. There is so much more great info in there, and if you can't afford it, it is available on btjunkie as well as other torrenting sites! Good growing and have a good day!

Edit: Well it looks like you guys enjoyed the info so time to add a little more about nutrition uptake.

Fungi and Bacteria are the two primary "workers" for providing nutrition to your plant. Fungi, though much smaller than bacteria individually, form long sort of "tunnels" from your plant's rhizosphere to nutrition found in nearby soil. Fungi are special in that they can break down "harder" materials and bring nutrition through their tunneling systems. They then either keep the nutrients until they die and then exude the nutrition into back into the soil in a plant or bacterial edible form. As said before, fungi break down hard materials, like bones, phosphorous, copper, zinc, etc. As you can probably now tell, fungi are very important. It is also important to note that the best defense against harmful fungi is beneficial fungi. Beneficial fungi out compete harmful fungi every time.

What are harmful fungi? Harmful fungi cause diseases on your plant. They do this by getting their nutrition off of your plant without exchanging anything for the nutrition. This could cause a wide variety of diseases such as root rot, plant yellowing, and other sad looking signs. That is why when you see a problem with your plant people immediately think "deficiency." And it is true, however, the reason is because there is not enough nutrition in your soil for the beneficial fungi to out compete the harmful fungi. That is why having a balanced, sufficient, amount of nutrition will always result in a good looking plant. If the nutrition is there, beneficial fungi out compete harmful fungi every time.

What exactly do bacteria do then? Well, bacteria don't move very far during their life times and they also do not form tunnels. They also don't really break down hard material, so they provide the service of breaking down the softer materials in soil for your plants. Bacteria also store nutrition that would otherwise be lost in soil due to leeching, so they got that going for them too. Also, as a part of the metabolic system of bacteria, they release CO2, this then gets absorbed by the plant via photosynthesis and process continues. The same info about beneficial and harmful fungi is true about bacteria as well.

The two different types of nitrogen ought to be mentioned to provide some additional understanding of nutrition. Fungi absorb a cation form of nitrogen (ammonium, NH4) while bacteria turn that ammonium into an anion version of nitrogen (nitrate, NO3) b/c of a special bacteria called nitrosomonas. MJ plants prefer NO3 and therefor prefer more bacteria in their soil then tress and shrubs, which prefer NH4. The preferred ratio of bacteria:fungi in most annuals is actually 1:1. It is super convenient that this is true because a balance of bacteria and fungi will keep your ph in the exact middle of the spectrum, 6-7, which turns out is perfect for mj grown in soil! It's almost as if the weed plant evolved this way to adapt to the fungus and bacteria that existed in the soil before its creation.

What should be noted is that fungi and bacteria don't just magically appear, they form as a result of your plant's exudates. That is really important to understand in organic gardening. There is always a balance, and you need to respect that balance. Don't look for quick fixes and miracle solutions in organic gardening, it just won't happen. Be patient and good things will happen. I hope this helps y'all understand some more basics about nutrition.
Organic teas have nutrition that is immediately available. When watered into the root zone or by foliar feeding. It depends on what you use and how. I mix guano teas about 12 hours before I use them. And shake my jugs vigorously several times. Worm castings, fish emulsion and kelp work very fast. Urine is dissolved nitrogen and immediately available. Some amendments break down faster than others. Blood meal breaks down much faster than bone meal. Etc
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Organic teas have nutrition that is immediately available. When watered into the root zone or by foliar feeding. It depends on what you use and how. I mix guano teas about 12 hours before I use them. And shake my jugs vigorously several times. Worm castings, fish emulsion and kelp work very fast. Urine is dissolved nitrogen and immediately available. Some amendments break down faster than others. Blood meal breaks down much faster than bone meal. Etc

Do you know you are replying to a comment from 2012?

And since cry baby buck got me banned from his racist who works harder thread I want to answer you here while I got you.

You said you saw my set up and I get carpet fibers in my flowers.

Why would there be carpet fibers in my flowers?
 

RetiredGuerilla

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Do you enjoy smoking synthetic carcinogen laden carpet fibers? Evidently because I saw your setup. I feel sorry for anyone who relies on you for their meds. I could tell you how to have pure and clean flowers. But why would you be interested in anything I have to say? I'm just a retarded flat earth guy.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Do you enjoy smoking synthetic carcinogen laden carpet fibers? Evidently because I saw your setup. I feel sorry for anyone who relies on you for their meds. I could tell you how to have pure and clean flowers. But why would you be interested in anything I have to say? I'm just a retarded flat earth guy.

Dude no carpet fibers get anywhere near my flowers.

I am not allowed from current regulations but I had a contract with a dispensary for a couple years. Every batch was lab tested.

I post my plants here regularly. No one has ever said such a thing. And now 3 patients are showing improvement from lifelong disease or trauma from our meds.

And you grow outside. Not clean.
 

Frank Nitty

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Advanced Nutrients is a joke, their nutes are lacking and they claim to be organic (kind of funny how you're knocking organics and mention that brand) but they're not. Go with Canna if you're going synthetic. I mentioned that there is nothing wrong with growing synthetically, organics are just cheaper, and way less of a hassle. I mix up my soil and let it sit for a month - 2 months, then put in my 2-3 week old plant and just use plain water throughout harvest. Pretty simple. This is the organics section, so I'd be careful about telling people to grow "real buds" here, you'll probably get flamed. Also, you should check out Humboldt Local, he's all organic outdoor (like myself) and his results are better than any synthetic results I've seen. I've done the whole aeroponics thing and I have a lot of friends on the hydro hype... yeah it looks really good, but I get higher off of my soil grown. And I have no idea where you get this taste and aroma notion from... Have you ever grown organically?
I'm going to try this out... what is the recipe
 

Dmannn

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I'm going to try this out... what is the recipe
You can literally scroll down the previous page and find a dozen soil and AACT recipes that will satisfy any base soil you use, even soilless like coco fiber eat. give it a try bud. I have always grown "organic", never ever had any "fake" buds or ANYONE say any of it tasted terrible/no good/like hay. Pick up any "medical" pot in C.A. and IMO and it tastes/smells like perfume garbage. Now that opinion comes from a place where Pot CAN help some pretty sick people (immune deficiencies, bowl problems, psychological issues) the problem with the "medical clubs" like harbor side and whatever braided hair top hat wearing weirdo asswhipe making millions off of these really sick people. They only accept indoor synthetic "brands" of pot. Buy for pennies on the pound and turn around and jack the fuck out of the prices, skirt tax law and drive lambos. so fuck all those fake assed bitches and there synthetic get rich quick off the dead and dying. Fucking asswhipes should be investigated AGAIN and sent to prison for profiteering off of the hurt. Now a lot of people have bull shit prop215 card and shame on them too. And shame on CA for withholding our 9th AND 10th amendment from us. Nazis, did you see the last election? ONE party represented, just like North Korea.
 
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Frank Nitty

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You can literally scroll down the previous page and find a dozen soil and AACT recipes that will satisfy any base soil you use, even soilless like coco fiber eat. give it a try bud. I have always grown "organic", never ever had any "fake" buds or ANYONE say any of it tasted terrible/no good/like hay. Pick up any "medical" pot in C.A. and IMO and it tastes/smells like perfume garbage. Now that opinion comes from a place where Pot CAN help some pretty sick people (immune deficiencies, bowl problems, psychological issues) the problem with the "medical clubs" like harbor side and whatever braided hair top hat wearing weirdo asswhipe making millions off of these really sick people. They only accept indoor synthetic "brands" of pot. Buy for pennies on the pound and turn around and jack the fuck out of the prices, skirt tax law and drive lambos. so fuck all those fake assed bitches and there synthetic get rich quick off the dead and dying. Fucking asswhipes should be investigated AGAIN and sent to prison for profiteering off of the hurt. Now a lot of people have bull shit prop215 card and shame on them too. And shame on CA for withholding our 9th AND 10th amendment from us. Nazis, did you see the last election? ONE party represented, just like North Korea.
So you mean to tell me that they won't take organic grown weed? WOW!!! Unbelievable... Like I said before, all that glitters ain't gold. At least not for everyone. I'm not going to say that I can't believe that they would do something like that because I can, I just can't believe that the people would go for it. I'm in total agreement with you on this and I'm not even from out there!!!
 

Dmannn

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So you mean to tell me that they won't take organic grown weed? WOW!!! Unbelievable... Like I said before, all that glitters ain't gold. At least not for everyone. I'm not going to say that I can't believe that they would do something like that because I can, I just can't believe that the people would go for it. I'm in total agreement with you on this and I'm not even from out there!!!
Organic Weed takes bugs/needs bugs/bacteria and other living things to grow. According to these "experts" (millionaires) "their sick people" need the "cleanest weed" and anything "living is a detriment to the sick patients"

yeah like a parasite sucking sick person's bank account dry.

Clown asses, all of them. Don't feel bad for the "raids," they earned them.
 

Frank Nitty

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Organic Weed takes bugs/needs bugs/bacteria and other living things to grow. According to these "experts" (millionaires) "their sick people" need the "cleanest weed" and anything "living is a detriment to the sick patients"

yeah like a parasite sucking sick person's bank account dry.

Clown asses, all of them. Don't feel bad for the "raids," they earned them.
What about Colo? Are they doing the same thing? So basically the weed that they are selling in the shops in California is actually worse for the people who need it? Mutha#+/#@$
 

Dmannn

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What about Colo? Are they doing the same thing? So basically the weed that they are selling in the shops in California is actually worse for the people who need it? Mutha#+/#@$

I have not been to the Rado. I did make it out to Reno, Nevada and their Rec. stores have that same perfume trash. Its like people have been trained to only think that "super" pot is ultra dense nauseating catnpiss where one gram equals a penny sized nug and some shake, which gives you a headache. At about 2010 the pot started getting like this.

Of course this is my experience and strong opinion. But you know, what ever man.
 

Frank Nitty

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I have not been to the Rado. I did make it out to Reno, Nevada and their Rec. stores have that same perfume trash. Its like people have been trained to only think that "super" pot is ultra dense nauseating catnpiss where one gram equals a penny sized nug and some shake of synthetic trash; which gives you a headache. At about 2010 the pot started getting like this.

Of course this is my experience and strong opinion. But you know, what ever man.
I believe you... Youre making me lean more and more towards going full organic... I'm doing it that way from the start but I was thinking that I had to go the way of using all the chemical weapons of destruction... until you came along with the real... I don't want my shit full of poison... preach on brother!!!
 

Dmannn

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oh and I know the price of pot dropped here DRAMATICALLY BEFORE and after the Rado went legal..where do you think all that cheap pot went? Of course that was ALL Truckload outdoor from the northwest. Indoor stayed local for the most part. Glad i can speak freely now. Since CA is LEGAL, fed layabouts and sum such chickenshits ya'know.
 
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