whitebb2727
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There is another thread on this. Some studies show it still being in certain plants up to 200 and something days. I'll have to dig and find it.
Eagle 20 advice! HELLLLLPPPPPP
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NaturalFarmer
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@whitebb2727
Colorado Green Labs?
Hydrogen Cyanide was used in the Concentration camps in the form of a pesticide called Zyklon B
Colorado Green Labs?
Hydrogen Cyanide was used in the Concentration camps in the form of a pesticide called Zyklon B
whitebb2727
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Its nasty stuff and I cant fathom why anyone would want to use it.
Airflow
Lower humidity
UV
Together those will prevent pm.
PM and plants have been around for millennia and humans think they need highly toxic stuff to save plants. Lol.
I agree a little bit, but this info isn't hard to find. If people can't be bothered to research something for 10-15 seconds to double check info that's on them.
See: http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog...nd-consumption
Grojak
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My advice on E20 is use it once.... if you have to use it twice quit growing cause you're doing it wrong. The fact you got PM tell me your conditions were not good and as others stated air flow / temps and humidity are key. If you have good airflow you can get away without a dehumidifier but if you need to drop $150 on a good Dehuey it's worth it for sure!!
whitebb2727
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Its not allowed for use on tobacco. It produces hydrogen cyanide when burned. Holy Shit! Why would anyone use this crap.
NaturalFarmer
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The problem with PM is people begin to grasp at straws trying to save their harvest/investment. No doubt in my mind that Eagle 20 works well and I think the internet agrees. The word is out though but sometimes they see all that and disregard common sense.
My apologies for being an asshole tho.. it comes naturally for me.
NaturalFarmer
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Clean clones and HEPA works for me.
whitebb2727
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It is toxic to other organisms. Some studies have shown reproductive harm
Yes you are. Where's Oliver? You ran him off quick. I'm kidding, you missed a a couple posts I was being a sarcastic prick. I'll try to tone it down, but I can't make any promises.
whitebb2727
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I, for the most part, spend my time genuinely trying to help others.
Oliver was a prick and escalated very quick and went into several threads including my grow thread and called me a Nazi and other crap. He started it and obviously could not finish.
I guess I did miss it. My bad. Wasn't really trying to be a prick either. Its just that eagle 20 is dangerous stuff. I get that it is approved for ornamental and certain edible products. The thing is that it is not approved for tobacco or cannabis. The reason being is it produces highly toxic hydrogen cyanide when burned.
People tend to think that because something is fairly safe for edible food it is ok for cannabis. Inhalation provides a different mode for absorption into the blood stream and should be treated differently.
If I seem adamant in my argument it is for a reason. I would be highly pissed if someone used eagle 20 on cannabis I bought from them. It is the reason I grow my own.
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NaturalFarmer
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Myclobutanil...It's not just eagle 20. Others products have it in there , I just don't know the names.
Bluudreamer
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Yes okay everyone, I really understand how toxic it is and how much you hate that people choose to use it but I didn't give anyone background on my plants, grow room, and conditions. I'm not a noob grower, thanks haha. PM came from some more mature plants I had in my room that I transferred into my grow from a friends room who had no idea about keeping the right conditions in their grow room. The first thing I do when I seen PM was increase my air flow, and lower humidity. Then I treated organically with neem oil twice which just helped for a second. At this point I've tired everything everyone's said so a friend who is a great grower suggested E20 if I wanted to never deal with it again. Of course he sold me on it and bam here I am with still PM Issues but it has only been a few days and I'm going to spray down with milk and water. My plants are on week 8 of veg and I usually veg around 12-14 weeks but I'm going to keep these in veg for another 8 weeks. So I really just wanted to know some of other people's experience with eagle 20. Not how they treat PM or what works for them. AND PEOPLE IF I NEED YOU TELL ME ABOUT MY HUMIDTY, TEMPS, ECT I would not be on this site or growing in general like if I'm using E20 on my cannabis you think I'm novice enough to not know how to keep my grow room. Come on.
Bluudreamer
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I understand. I was told that as long as they are treated in veg with E20 and didn't put them to flower for at least 4 weeks after treating I would be fine. I was also told that I would need to flush very well and I wouldn't taste the E20 or anything
Bluudreamer
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Any suggestions on how to get rid of PM on clones. I have 60 I clipped and haven't seen PM on them but I think their infected because I clipped them from my garden that had very little PM already. I want to knock it out before it even comes
Chunky Stool
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Bluudreamer
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Okay thanksYou definitely act like a novice.
Have a nice life; I'm done.
NaturalFarmer
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Go to a homebrew shop and get some Potassium Bicarbonate for $2 or go to a hydro store and get greencure for $15. It is a contact fungicide, so it will need to be sprayed everywhere you can get or dip with cuttings. This is the organic option. The best one? I don't know that but I have heard it is. Some prefer hydrogen peroxide.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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+1You definitely act like a novice.
Have a nice life; I'm done.
Another case where somebody asks for help, gives us limited information then gets all pissed off because they don't like the answers.......THEN takes a rather shitty attitude towards people trying to help him. Don't blame us - blame your dumb ass friend who caused the problem.
Geez - be gracious and appreciative towards the people here who are essentially wasting their time trying to help you.
I have a sensei with a not so good attitude who is a good grower that put me on Eagle 20. A real mistake too. The dude say to not get it on my skin.
I will use Hydrogen peroxide or the Copper stuff from Bonide who makes Dr. Jack's Dead Bug Brew aka Spinosad or skim milk and water.