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lars775

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I don't understand a word you said. If you want to try again
not sure what your fan is being used for .. but the CFM 190 vs CFM 440 ..250 cfm difference == your going to get less air or remove less air with you 190 compared to your 440..... as a scrubber as out against in you could make it work. an adapter will help from 4/6 again depends on what your using it for.. Just for grins CFM stands for Cubic Feet per Minute measure air intake and exhaust Velocity.
 
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esh dov ets

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well, what are you using the fan for? I use a ventech 440 and it's a great fan.
Mine goes Canon filter to light out to fan out to room in winter out window in summer. So far it puts my temps at 86 f for mh 600w and 84 f for hps 400w or 90s with 600w hps and doesn't clear the 3*3 of smoke (no smell yet) very well. It's probably the cfm being low but I was wondering about the brand because of the noise.. is there a quiet model? Is 6" quiter then 4"?
 

lars775

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Mine goes Canon filter to light out to fan out to room in winter out window in summer. So far it puts my temps at 86 f for mh 600w and 84 f for hps 400w or 90s with 600w hps and doesn't clear the 3*3 of smoke (no smell yet) very well. It's probably the cfm being low but I was wondering about the brand because of the noise.. is there a quiet model? Is 6" quiter then 4"?
Can-filter (insulated) - Vortex S I'm sure there are others you can box and pad them also. As for 4 vs 6 a lot is what your pushing or pulling( length of run ) straining or maxing a fan will wear and cause noise in my experience.
 
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esh dov ets

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Canned (insulated) Vortex S I'm sure there are others you can box and pad them also. As for 4 vs 6 a lot is what your pushing or pulling( length of run ) straining or maxing a fan will wear and cause noise in my experience.
It's loud with or without a load. Vortex s has 347 cfm in 6" or 728 in 8 " maybe the 6" will work for me . Is it much quieter or just slightly?
 

lars775

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It's loud with or without a load. Vortex s has 347 cfm in 6" or 728 in 8 " maybe the 6" will work for me . Is it much quieter or just slightly?
6 is fine .... with ventilation bigger is less wear if you have room you can always use a variable extension to get your control spot on. noise is a little more with the 8 not sure how stealth you need to be but you would not need use 100% on your speed control either... if your at that temp with 440 already not sure if you use co2 or not but your temp is right at hot so 8 is a better move in my opinion but 6 will work.. so the original CFM-190 is going back because your temps would be way to hot you have to have a bare Min of 440. 90 degrees without co2 is way hot.. 75 - 82 max in my opinion... so if you use less than 440 CFM your temps will RISE so no vortex 6-s will work if it puts out 347 and you need 440 .. you must have a fan that produces a slight bit more than 440 cfm in my opinion. ==== 440 CFM temps in 90s to high so you need more air option of booster or go to a higher CFM fan either way more air or cooler air lol
 
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esh dov ets

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So it's btwn the 6 inch vortex s + separate filter + controller $230 and olnly 350 cfm.
Or venTech 6 inch combo b for about $130 with 440 cfm.
 
So it's btwn the 6 inch vortex s + separate filter + controller $230 and olnly 350 cfm.
Or venTech 6 inch combo b for about $130 with 440 cfm.
You're missing an alternative fan that is rarely mentioned and is rarely offered on any of the typical equipment sites. Check into
Soler & Palau (or S&P). Their TD-150S is about 50% quieter than the Vortex 6" and much, much quieter than the VenTech. The Vortex 6 is running at about 75 dB as compared to the S&P TD-150S which is running at about 53dB. The TD-150S does cost about $30 US more than the Vortex. (333cfm and $184 - no controller)
 
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Big smo

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So I bought the wrong cfm fan ; I got a venTech 190 cfm with filter both 4" for $100 on Amazon . They have one same brand 6" 440 cfm combo for 140 . Not sure if I should get this or anybody got any better ideas? I have till the 31st to exchange but I used it so I don't know Amazon's policy. Also I thought the fan was loud.
Did you read the name of the thread before you decided to take up a full page based on a poor purchase?
 

IgrowUgrow

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Hey RIU I'm looking for the best deal on Coco coir croutons. Preferably enough for 10 - 5gallon buckets so each bucket will only have 4gallons worth of Coco so I need 40gallons of croutons. I know it's usually sold in litres and I don't know if it's dry litres or fluffed litres? I'm guessing I will need around 4 - 28 litre bags based on sqr ft. If you know where I can find a larger quantity at a lower price please post a link. Thanks ahead guys.
 

Captain Keg

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They are terrible and when these guys start to flower they won't say how well they are doing anymore. At most .5 grams per watt. 20% efficient ad a real rip off.
Are these the crap 300w sunspect ones or something?
Viperspecter is actually a pretty decent brand, so I hope he doesn't mean that one.
 

Big smo

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I do. Read up on epistar leds and that's what most of these companies use. They are pennies a piece vs dollars for the Cree and you do get what you pay for. Not name brand hype either. Kind, viper, apollo, black dog all of them use the cheapest leds and most even have those $2 eBay plastic drivers. It's actually disgusting when you read about them. It's not necessarily about them dying out as much as the efficiency of the leds themselves. 20% light to 80% heat
 

Morriston55

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But who wants 300 watts of cfls in flower? And only 65lumen /watt

I wouldnt mind trying a cheap LED panel to veg plants, but personally an HPS is still top dog for small-medium grow areas. Could have both a cheap LED and 600HPS enclosed hood for under $300 spent, and switch lights when going to flower

Any led panels going on sale cyber monday
 
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