Grenier5413
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Nd if anyone is buying soil that is free to make from nature's bounty than I don't where to even start.
subs supersoil
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nom nom i was giving my 2 cents about the article of buildasoil dude^
The first reaction for the educated grower is answering. But in case of scam...better dont feed the troll you know
Rasta Roy
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I don't see the scam... Elaborate please.
iHearAll
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you can learn alot from "expert recipes". if you can understand another person's input and believe their success stories then you can implement what you have around you to perform comparably. but if you do it this way it will work. ya know? like what skill set is that really advertising towards? the new growers or those switching from hydro. most people dont go right into microbiology while growing lol that's something we kinda pick up after trying to entertain ourselves
https://buildasoil.com/blogs/news/12533881-whats-so-cool-about-super-soil-the-super-soil-recipe-breakdown
just scroll down to BowlReapa's answer, dude. Its a matter of reaching that knowledge. Correct indexed thoughts imo, science+holistics
just scroll down to BowlReapa's answer, dude. Its a matter of reaching that knowledge. Correct indexed thoughts imo, science+holistics
Rasta Roy
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I'll hop on his magnesium bus...but I still think buying bagged soil is an enormous waste of money. Lol.
And on the subject of mycos....I think they're a waste of money...I did a side by side last year with a control group that didn't have it used. I dropped mycos after that. Hear we are a year later and I can compare growth charts and see my yields and growth rates didn't suffer at all from dropping it. I believe they exist on their own in good compost but I would need confirmation from science.
iHearAll
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im pretty sure you're right. cuz in biodynamics you add hummates to your compost when your prep it. but they also teach you how to make hummates from foraged materials. since you can make hummates using decomposition then i would assume composting is the same process but not isolating the hummates like BD500 and such
smink13
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@subcoolgrower thoughts on the buildasoil article? We know your out therrrrreeee. No one is trying to knock anyone's hustle and I give the man props for putting together his own "blend" that seemed to work for him and some others.
I just simply would like to know his response to thoughts that someone has learned from a lot of the people we also call mentors. Coot, mofo ect.
I used subs soil when I first started out, a lot of people have because he gave his information away for free, unlike many others so mad props to the man for that. But, we also didn't have much else to try and since a lot of us were learning we leaned on a mix that seemed to work.
Well, it did for a little and then not at all for me. I struggled w what I was doing wrong and it made me a better grower because I had to research a lot more. Again, props to you sub, not even trying to sound like a dick cuz I'm sure you would tell me that you were hoping to get everyone thinking about what a mix is and to experiment w what worked for them, well at least that is what I would hope you would say.
All that aside, I'm just looking for reasons behind his specifics. If you are specific about something, I'd just like to know why. When someone that knows a little about no til gardening and just organic farming in general, has legitimate claims against something, I'm just curious as to the response. Not about calling a man out.
If your shit works, and you stand behind it, this shouldn't be a very hard question to answer.
I just simply would like to know his response to thoughts that someone has learned from a lot of the people we also call mentors. Coot, mofo ect.
I used subs soil when I first started out, a lot of people have because he gave his information away for free, unlike many others so mad props to the man for that. But, we also didn't have much else to try and since a lot of us were learning we leaned on a mix that seemed to work.
Well, it did for a little and then not at all for me. I struggled w what I was doing wrong and it made me a better grower because I had to research a lot more. Again, props to you sub, not even trying to sound like a dick cuz I'm sure you would tell me that you were hoping to get everyone thinking about what a mix is and to experiment w what worked for them, well at least that is what I would hope you would say.
All that aside, I'm just looking for reasons behind his specifics. If you are specific about something, I'd just like to know why. When someone that knows a little about no til gardening and just organic farming in general, has legitimate claims against something, I'm just curious as to the response. Not about calling a man out.
If your shit works, and you stand behind it, this shouldn't be a very hard question to answer.
smink13
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He wasn't busy when he first tried to defend his methods with generalities. I ask for specifics to someone who is citing specifics and it's cricket cricket. Come one sub, it isn't hard, especially for someone with so much knowledge. If you have explained it before, simply post a link. He's all over instagram everyday...don't fucking tell me he is too busy cuz you are one of his fanboys.
It's a simple question, that I believe a lot of us growers deserve answered considering people buy his fucking pre bagged supersoil and eat up his "knowledge" because they don't know any better. Let's stop confusing people and sending them down a road they may not want to go. I know I didn't when I found out that it isn't working as advertised.
Give people the knowledge to understand what you are doing. You give out info all day on instagram but I have yet to see any response the jeremy or to anyone that asks these questions....anywhere....
@subcoolgrower
It's a simple question, that I believe a lot of us growers deserve answered considering people buy his fucking pre bagged supersoil and eat up his "knowledge" because they don't know any better. Let's stop confusing people and sending them down a road they may not want to go. I know I didn't when I found out that it isn't working as advertised.
Give people the knowledge to understand what you are doing. You give out info all day on instagram but I have yet to see any response the jeremy or to anyone that asks these questions....anywhere....
@subcoolgrower
smink13
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*Cricket*....*cricket*....@subcoolgrower
Not gunna go away. Do you do this everywhere cuz I see you all over instagram, almost every hour or 2 so I know you arnt that busy.... just want an answer to a simple question. Even if it's a link to you already answering it.
You havnt, from what I have searched on the web. I find that....odd.
@Rasta Roy
Not gunna go away. Do you do this everywhere cuz I see you all over instagram, almost every hour or 2 so I know you arnt that busy.... just want an answer to a simple question. Even if it's a link to you already answering it.
You havnt, from what I have searched on the web. I find that....odd.
@Rasta Roy
Rasta Roy
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Apparently he can pop on to tell you about all the people that use his method...but not the why or how his method works...
Chronikool
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Yup....i dont believe that the mycos make much of a difference to us. By 'us' i mean people building their own soilz, amendments and native microbes
MustangStudFarm
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Is this the "real" SubCool? If so, its cool that you came back!!!
Mroutdoors
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Wow this thread has its ups and downs. When spring gets here I'll be mixing sub's recipe for sure. To be organic and off bottle nutes will be great. I'm new to growing and I'm having a blast. Being able to smoke my own weed, knowing what is in it will be the icing on the cake
GrowBrooklyn
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Subcool is a farmer, not a scientist. He shares what works for him. He posts videos and pictures that show his results. If you want to know more, that is great. Do your own fucking research. If you don't want to use his methods, that is fine. If you don't want others to use his methods, which is what it seems like, frankly I don't understand why you care so much. Offer something better. I started using Super Soil about a decade ago. It is easy and it works. I then learned to reuse my soil thru experimentation. Props to subcool for putting up with such nonsense and sharing his technique.
GrowBrooklyn
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You know you are just being a jerk right? Subcool does not owe you one second of his time. If you don't want to use his technique and don't want others to, offer something better. We shall see if anyone cares.
Rasta Roy
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I don't know why you're getting all confrontational with me guy. I share my information.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/organic-growing-an-introductory-guide.921380/
It is better. Enjoy.
Subcool presenting a recipe but not the reason of why it's put together is irresponsible. If he was a farmer...he would understand that.
GrowBrooklyn
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I'm confrontational because you are attacking a guy who has done nothing to you, is upfront about his trial and error approach, and shares what he does because people want him to. If you've got your own thing going, cool. Promote that instead of attacking others. Subcool has helped thousands of growers, especially noobs. His posts and videos were of great help to me personally, years ago. Your topic looks interesting and I will check it out, but taking down others who are trying to help in order to promote yourself is plain ugly. You have a choice; don't be that guy.
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