Sin City Seeds Thunderstuck is a Fraud

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We Can Make Sandwiches

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youve been growing for 30 years and never heard about selection?

god damn this thread is a trainwreck..i feel bad for herbies refunding your 1000 dollers.. doesnt matter what pack or breeder or strain you have to make a selection and find your keepers..not EVERY PHENO IS GOING TO BE THE HIGH CBD KEEPER YOUR LOOKING FOR.

Take what king james said and stroll off wth your 1000 dollers. buy resin seeds and compare since your all hung up on them and keep referring to em.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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$1000 dollars my arse. Dude probably bought one pack of seeds and is crying a river. And all that "what if you gave it to a kid with cancer" bullshit. If you need a high cbd strain you should have spent that $1k on a plane ticket to cali and just bought an ac/dc clone. Where the hell is all the test results from resin seeds ac/dc that you popped from seed?
 
COGrown

COGrown

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I thought the whole big deal about the AC/DC clone was that finding a plant with its cannabinoid content was extremely rare, even within the gene pool of Resin's Cannatonic strain. It wasn't like some freebie where a dude popped one bean and voila, it took serious work to find. So if thunderstruck is an s1 of AC/DC then the odds of finding a high CBD strain should be somewhat higher than in the Cannatonic gene pool, but nowhere close to a guarantee.
That said, what is the deal with the OP's test results? Are these the results from pre-flowering fan leaves? Those numbers are so low something is either seriously wrong with the material, the grow style, or the test methods. I've never seen numbers that were that low on flower.
 
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Mr. Bluejeans

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akhiymjames said:
First I must say Sin is one of the better breeders out there IMHO and is a very kind dude so since the Thunderstruck didn't meet your expectations I would give them a holler and he will take care of you but not if you sound so nasty. Believe me I understand when you spend money you want what is advertised but too many people believe word for word what the description says and that shouldn't be the case cus not every bean will produce a pheno of what the description says. All breeders do a lil sales pitch to sell the beans so if Sin City is a fraud all of them are.

I think they could've wrote the description better but people need to do they own research on strains when's it comes to spending money cus if people knew that Thunderstruck is a s1 of AC/DC high cbd pheno yes that pheno does make cbd 16-20 to 1 thc so making s1 seeds of it isn't really gonna give you a pheno that produce what AC/DC does. Like Yoda said you have to hunt beans to get something that high and s1 seeds will open the gene pool and show many phenos so it's gonna be harder to find something like AC/DC. I would bet money Resin Seeds don't produce that high of cbd in every single bean. I wonder how many beans it took to find AC/DC?

If you want high cbd get a known clone cus it's gonna take some time to find very very high cbd phenos in beans. Also test numbers depends on how well the plants were grown and if the lab know what their doing too cus there are lots of labs who are all over the place with test results. Sorry you didn't get the results you were looking for but I don't think your gonna convince anyone here that Sin City is frauds. They put out too much fire that many of us have keepers of. Hope you have better results
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Mr. Bluejeans

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ACDC is Cannatonic 4. I thought you experts all knew that. The breeder was being very specific about the phenom that he was offering. There are tons of cannatonic phenoms, but Sin City Claimed to have stabilize cannatonic 4(ACDC). If you are going to ripoff someone else's gear, you should at least name it correctly. I'm sorry I thought you folks knew what ACDC was.
 
eastcoastmo

eastcoastmo

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
I have grown other strains from them. All have been sketchy. If it is a luck of the draw, Then you need to clearly state that. Resin seeds does.
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You should clearly go with Resin then.
You contacted Herbies who is the BANK not the BREEDER so no, you wouldn't know if Sin would support his product as you never tried. I've also grown many of his strains and received exactly what I paid for. This screams to me of inexperience and trying to blame the breeder for your inability.
 
eastcoastmo

eastcoastmo

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
ACDC is Cannatonic 4. I thought you experts all knew that. The breeder was being very specific about the phenom that he was offering. There are tons of cannatonic phenoms, but Sin City Claimed to have stabilize cannatonic 4(ACDC). If you are going to ripoff someone else's gear, you should at least name it correctly. I'm sorry I thought you folks knew what ACDC was.
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It's PHENO'S from the word phenotype, not phenoms. Do some reading for yourself. We know exactly what ACDC is, do you know what a PHENOTYPE is? Be gone.
 
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eastcoastled

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
ACDC is Cannatonic 4. I thought you experts all knew that. The breeder was being very specific about the phenom that he was offering. There are tons of cannatonic phenoms, but Sin City Claimed to have stabilize cannatonic 4(ACDC). If you are going to ripoff someone else's gear, you should at least name it correctly. I'm sorry I thought you folks knew what ACDC was.
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lol, thanks for clarifying your agenda. To think the marijuana genome mapping project project has been made obsolete by some sketchy test results. You're obviously ahead of your time.
 
eastcoastmo

eastcoastmo

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
I am not trying to slap you around but it is Phenomena. https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/profiles/display/114469 And cannatonic 4 is ACDC . Cannatonic belongs to Resin Seeds. If you say you are offering ACDC, you are offering Cannatonic 4.
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Ha ha ha fuck me, you really have no idea.

phenotype
ˈfiːnə(ʊ)tʌɪp/
noun
BIOLOGY
  1. the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment.
Just stop...please.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
ACDC is Cannatonic 4. I thought you experts all knew that. The breeder was being very specific about the phenom that he was offering. There are tons of cannatonic phenoms, but Sin City Claimed to have stabilize cannatonic 4(ACDC). If you are going to ripoff someone else's gear, you should at least name it correctly. I'm sorry I thought you folks knew what ACDC was.
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I can't speak for everyone else but I know AC/DC is a pheno of Cannatonic 4. Sin City never not once claimed to STABILZE the AC/DC pheno. It does not say that in any description nor would they tell anyone that. If you know what s1 seeds are you would know your not going to get an exact copy of the mom in seeds. The AC/DC pheno is a rare pheno then you s1 it and it's another ball game. I'm sorry you thought you was getting a 20 to 1 cbd plant in every bean.

If you read what I said you would see I said that Resin Seeds does not produce AC/DC phenos in every bean. If that was the case I'm sure everyone searching for high cbd would just buy Resin Seeds and get their high cbd
 
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Mr. Bluejeans

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akhiymjames said:
I can't speak for everyone else but I know AC/DC is a pheno of Cannatonic 4. Sin City never not once claimed to STABILZE the AC/DC pheno. It does not say that in any description nor would they tell anyone that. If you know what s1 seeds are you would know your not going to get an exact copy of the mom in seeds. The AC/DC pheno is a rare pheno then you s1 it and it's another ball game. I'm sorry you thought you was getting a 20 to 1 cbd plant in every bean.
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Never figured for an exact 20:1. I have my own 25:1. But it should be in the ball park. I am in the process of having every plant tested. I'll be willing to bet that not one hits the mark. I have grown cannatonic 4. It is very distinct. These seeds are more like random bag weed.
 
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Mr. Bluejeans

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You folks should really be more protective of genetics and how they are represented. Releasing crap like this into the wild could end badly.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Mr. Bluejeans said:
Never figured for an exact 20:1. I have my own 25:1. But it should be in the ball park. I am in the process of having every plant tested. I'll be willing to bet that not one hits the mark. I have grown cannatonic 4. It is very distinct. These seeds are more like random bag weed.
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How do you figure it should be close? These are s1 seeds how many seeds did it take for Resin to find AC/DC?

Here is a dispensary that offers a pheno of Thunderstruck.
https://helpinghandsdispensary.com/colorado-hybrid-marijuana-strain-thunderstruck/
Theirs at 12:1 you have to hunt to find. Do you know you are supposed to harvest early for high cbd? Too long to harvest and it degrades and you have to grow the plants to the best of their abilities having it dialed in
 
Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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COGrown said:
one bean and voila, it took serious work
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Mr. Bluejeans said:
Never figured for an exact 20:1. I have my own 25:1. But it should be in the ball park. I am in the process of having every plant tested. I'll be willing to bet that not one hits the mark. I have grown cannatonic 4. It is very distinct. These seeds are more like random bag weed.
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Arnt you going to destroy the plants because you got your refund and are already bent out of shape. Perhaps you should credit back herbies, since you intend to test the rest of the plants.
#justsaying
#crywolf
#howmanypacks did you really pop and test.
Actually fuck it. Im calling your bluff. Post every test with an actually link or password to the testing site.
$1000 for sincity gear
@akhiymjames how much is a pack of sins gear 80-90. Even at $100 x 11 seeds
110 seeds total, so at @Mr. Bluejeans can you post the 60 plus test.
#showthereceipts!!!
 
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