Build your own-DWC Bubbleponics,Drip System Cheap

:fire:the air stone is to further oxeygenate the water before feeding. the dripping water shud i herd be oxygenated on the way down its driop course but the more oxygen the better which is why people add the bubbler. hope that helped:eyesmoke:
 
Dirtbmw20 said:
No doubt a great thread, it has helped me in my research tremendously.

Although I have seen another thead where it was made using an air stone AND also using a water pump for direct feeding, why would you do both, why not just one of the two methods. Seems like a hydro AND bubble unit combined would give off too much water. I dunno, I'm a newbie.:dunce:

Thanks so much for your help and insight Highlife, you have helped me plenty over the last two days. bongsmilie
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go to stealthhydro.com and watch their bubbleponics system video. Some systems like Stealth Hydros bubbleponics setup are setup so the airdisks bubble oxygen and water into the water pump and the water pump will drip it to the inner roots. This is setup like this for seeds that are sprouting and roots that cant touch the water yet. Stealh Hydro doesnt show very much water in their small reservoir because they use a drip system as well. Then the owners of stealth hydro system remove the drip system because it blocks room in their reservoir and the roots are already touching oxygenated water.
 
Yea, I've watched that video a few times, pretty cool. I wish they gave a better view of the contraption they have in the middle delivering where all the water lines comes off of.

So, with the stealthhydro kit, you would use the air AND water pump until the roots hit the water then you would remove the water pump and use the air pump only ??

I use to be an aquarium FANATIC, I mean I had 2 280gal., 2 175gal., 1 55gal., and 1 35gal. with three of the BIG tanks and the 55 tank all being reef tanks which require several pumps in each tank going all at the same time so I still have SO fricking many water pumps laying around it ain't funny, I've even got probally about 10 of those RIO600 pumps that they sell, I just gotta figure out how they get six lines coming off that pump with that thing in the middle.

I took horticulture in high school for all 4 years, even though that WAS 22 years ago but I still got the basic of growing down, that along with my knowledge of dealing with aquariums, I think I should be able to handle a hydro system.
HiGHLiFE28 said:
go to stealthhydro.com and watch their bubbleponics system video. Some systems like Stealth Hydros bubbleponics setup are setup so the airdisks bubble oxygen and water into the water pump and the water pump will drip it to the inner roots. This is setup like this for seeds that are sprouting and roots that cant touch the water yet. Stealh Hydro doesnt show very much water in their small reservoir because they use a drip system as well. Then the owners of stealth hydro system remove the drip system because it blocks room in their reservoir and the roots are already touching oxygenated water.
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No I havent harvested from a setup like this but one very similar if you look at my first grow- super aerogarden help- on post number 1. This time I am expecting higher yields with 8 or more plants. I wont harvest from here tho, remember i will harvest from the 5 gallon buckets ;0
 
I read your super aerogarden thread before I ever came across this one. I actually have an aerogarden and I started out on this thread searching aerogarden and came across all your threads, of course your aerogarden thread will lead you to this DIY thread somewheer in there and that's how I ended up in here, I originally started in your aerogarden thread though,lol.

Why are you going to the flower stage in the 5gal buckets, more room for the roots ??? I don't have room for that kind of set-up, what do you think about this....... For my very first ever grow inside, I was gonna start them in my aerogarden, whichever ones are females, I will transplant them (most likely 2 or 3) into my big bubbler (your DIY one) and grow them in that until the harvest. Does that sound doable to you ?? I haven't quite figured the lighting yet but I was thinking of the 400W HPS light with the induct cooling for it, then of course I will have to figure out the rest of the ventilation, exhaust, fans, etc... But does my grow sound like it would work with 2-4 plants in your DIY bubbler system ??
 
thats exactly the grow i got. get a cooltube form htg supply. i growing 2 plants in stealth hydro 4 pot bubbler. theres enough room for 2, idk the 4 becasue the pots are so close together that the plants would be on top of each other. the roots look like they cud make it. i hope. humidity i no a factor if top plants crowd, but hear is lo, and i doing only 2 now:fire:
 
btw just superthrived my male and female plants for the first time in their month or more more of flower and after 2 days last "night" which ended just now they shot up. sadly yes the males seeds shot way up too, but the new hair development is damned exciting, the female zelda looks like a real marijauna plant budding finally, like in the pics:bigjoint:samantha the male is just scary lol still tiem to pull him but i think ill just tuff it out. i think dtill time sry i did not mean to jacl yur thred, just got excited:wall:
 
Thanks Earharmony. Is there a big performance difference (in cooling)between the cooling TUBE and the cooling HOOD from HTG. I was actually looking at a cooling hood, it was not the tube. Do you have a fan actually hooked up to your tube ?? If so, which one and how loud are the fans ?? Thank you again.


Eharmony420 said:
thats exactly the grow i got. get a cooltube form htg supply. i growing 2 plants in stealth hydro 4 pot bubbler. theres enough room for 2, idk the 4 becasue the pots are so close together that the plants would be on top of each other. the roots look like they cud make it. i hope. humidity i no a factor if top plants crowd, but hear is lo, and i doing only 2 now:fire:
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Dirtbmw20 said:
Thanks Earharmony. Is there a big performance difference (in cooling)between the cooling TUBE and the cooling HOOD from HTG. I was actually looking at a cooling hood, it was not the tube. Do you have a fan actually hooked up to your tube ?? If so, which one and how loud are the fans ?? Thank you again.
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The cooltube allows more light coverage because the hood stops the light with corners.My 6 inch inline fan is quiet bro. I ended up moving my plants before i sexed them because i didnt want the roots to be compacted and the aerogarden needed changing too much. Just transplant them all and then sex them, u dont want the aerogarden stunting growth expecially if your going to transplant them anyways.
 
Highlife, this is the cool tube I was looking at from HTG on ebay...
400 watt HPS GROW LIGHT GLASS COOL TUBE Reflector 400w - eBay (item 180180080284 end time Sep-08-08 14:25:49 PDT)


and this is the regular 400W from them I was looking at.............
400 watt HPS GROW LIGHT 6" INLINE AIR COOLED REFLECTOR - eBay (item 180180080248 end time Sep-08-08 14:25:41 PDT)


Both are very close in price. Why would the cool tube be less than the regular hood anyways ?? Which specific fan do you have on yours Highlife ??? How would I know how much cfm fan I would need ??

HiGHLiFE28 said:
The cooltube allows more light coverage because the hood stops the light with corners.My 6 inch inline fan is quiet bro. I ended up moving my plants before i sexed them because i didnt want the roots to be compacted and the aerogarden needed changing too much. Just transplant them all and then sex them, u dont want the aerogarden stunting growth expecially if your going to transplant them anyways.
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id kill to buy the 300 dollar deal lol. i peiced mine together seperatley. i bought the euro hood inline cooling apparatus as it is supposed to compete with the cool tube i thot it must be better. i use a 6 h duct reducer fan htg sells for 30 dollars and i bot the hvac tubing at home depot with the clamps, that a fun isle. i wonder if the cool tube with the wings is better or not after all u can make it vertical if yu fell like it. idk the one i got was the same price and works good. do me a faveo and post any ebb and flo design chats u got i trying to go ebb and flo for more plants than my all mighty bubbler, well maybe:bigjoint: reservoir changes and value i still reserching. man i just had my first male open up, wow thats a lotta polen, clouds the air, pollinated my female and pulled that guy took a while to open, interesting to note, superthrive took like a day under lights then after lights out it shot up a whole lot also i put it in my bubbler cloner i made froma coffe can and the cuttings loved that, the roots are doing well! superhtrive is the best deal i got yet out of any product in ths adventure
 
My closet is so small in space that I was worried about the heat coming from the 600W versus the 400W plus the energy consumption. I thought the 400W woudl be enough light for my small closet. So you think I should go with a 600W versus the 400W ???

Also, so going with the digital unit, it will use less energy ???? Heat, noise and energy consumption are my main concerns.

HiGHLiFE28 said:
man for 50 more bucks you can get a 600w hps digital ballast and cool tube and hangers and bulb for 300 dollars. Thats what i got check out the htg store on ebay. go digital, more quiet less heat and energy and you can use metal halide lighting from a digital ballast too.
Heres all their listings - eBay Store - High Tech Garden Supply: DIGITAL GROW LIGHTS, 1,000 watt Grow Lights, 400 watt Grow Lights
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witha 400 i have had a hella time with heat, altho this is my first grow. the thing is you will figure out ways
around that, it might take some time some money and some creative solutions but yu will and yu will be there with a bigger light. :) i using the euro hood duct fan and i plant to get a charcoal filter with a fan attached. currently i pull air thru the hood and vent out in aother room, that works best. the instructions advise to pull. i plan to pull all thru the light for an easy setup my tent gets here tomorow, i advise a tent, if yu can hise a closet yu can hise a tents, under cardboard fake fornt dresser and whiole lot more conveneint to use. with closets i found that my temp was so hi was ridiculous unless i left the door completley opened, even venting with a 6 inch can fan, 250 cfm, altho that was a little small for my 12 by12 by 3 closet, lol, i know i half assed. but remember u will fig out ways around everything, i do howver regret not getting a DIGITAL BALLAST, if yu can afford it go for it, also my euro hood cant go vert, and i seen a lotta great growd doing that for more pot spaces, will see.:bigjoint:ebay! and htg! dont go to hydro stores watched by cops and new england hydroshops online are the best for mail because they grow everything indoor there as it gets so cold all year, no notice. :eyesmoke:
 
whoa dude check htg ebay store they have a 400 wat digital with a euro hood for 175. damn. i advise whether u go for 600 or 400 to buy the digital ballast with the inline cooling, either tube or hood, pronto. if it too much save up! i bot the econo ballast it works fine but i wish it was digital, i did already connect it to euro hood easily, they dont really tell u how easy it i to rewire these products but it all screws and plastic wire connectors .
 
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