Tobacco Growing & Breeding

Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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I came to Texas and beat my court case:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/police-break-the-law-marijuana-in-texas.600189/

So I am in Texas instead of Colorado now, but I will soon be going back and forth between the two. I came to Texas to beat my case as well as to start a Shaivaite Neurospiritualist Temple. Since being back in Texas I have been searched by the Police, not asking for any sympathy I am suing them and will win, and they are the defendants. But they searched me and my car and took about 500 different items that I had, many were different strains of seeds, about 70 of them Tobacco seeds, the rest were things like Basil, Holy Basil, Mangoes, Peaches, Watermelon, Thyme, Creeping Thyme, Mountain Thyme, etc etc etc. then a large portion of those items that weren't seeds were Nootropics, such as Phenythlamine, Tryptophan, etc etc and there were maybe 50 or 60 of those. Most everything I had was seeds. Then I also had some Etizolam, as per Neurospiritualist practice. But it is completely legal, so the police have already even apologized for taking everything and it is just sitting in the lab.

But I explained that to explain that in a few days I will start growing maybe 2 or 3 Tobacco strains, then when my lawsuit is over with the Police Department, or when I get everything back (whatever comes first) , I will start growing like 70 different Tobacco strains. And I am going to be working to spread the plants around Texas and the seeds everywhere. I will use the lawsuit money to start a Shaivaite Neurospiritualist Temple, which will be a place where plants are grown, fragrant oils are made, cows are kept, ceremonies are held and festivals are celebrated.

The seeds I have are various kinds, I know for sure I had some from pretty much every variety: Turkish, Burley, etc.

I know I had some Hopi Sacred Tobacco seeds and Mayan (Mopan Mayan) Sacred Tobacco seeds, as well as various European and Russian varieties.

I will have a few of them, that I didn't have shipped here until now, in about 5 days. And I'll be breeding them to make my own strain no different from how you breed 2 different kinds of Marijuana to make a strain.
 


When many people think of how Cannabis and Tobacco got to be traded on a Global scale many people assume that Native Americans had Cannabis and Europe brought Tobacco, but it was the other way around. Cannabis comes from India and the Middle East and was traded in Europe (Ex: The Netherlands, Amsterdam). And Native Americans had Tobacco, mainly a much more nicotine filled strain called Nicotiana Rustica (pictured above), which they used in Peace pipes. And both Cannabis and Tobacco have been important to the economies of various nations, primarily the United States and the Caribbean.

So Tobacco has not been part of World Trade for very long, but it spread very fast. For example, most people know that there is different kinds of Tobacco, like Tobacco meant for Pipe smoking Vs Tobacco meant for Cigar Rolling etc. But not only are there different varieties of Tobacco in that sense, but there are different strains from around the world.

When you hear or see Camel or Marlboro, you know they are different brands that exist, but they also have very different strains of Tobacco. Turkey used to be the Ottoman empire, then there was the Moroccan empire, etc. The tobacco that was traded and bred in the Turkish imperial region is known as Turkish, which comes in many different varieties, which is where the blends from Camel uses. Then there are American strains, like Virginian Tobaccos and Kentucky Tobaccos, etc, these strains are what Marlboro uses in its blends. Then there is Cuban Tobacco (Cuban Cigars), Dutch Tobacco (Dutchmasters Cigarillos), etc.

And not only are there different Species (Native American V Regular Smoking Tobacco), Regional Strains (Turkish V American), but there are also different varieties within the varieties, with different heights, different sized leaves, greener or yellower leaves. And just like Coffee they can be differentiated further during the curing process, just like roasting coffee different ways.

Tobacco plants can not only be used for Religious use and Personal use, but as an insect repellant, and Nicotine can be extracted from the leaves in order to make Vape oil.
 
Here are my Marijuana grows from Colorado:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/finshaggys-first-indoor-shiva.476002/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/finshaggys2nd-indoor-shiva-the-clones-unknown-for-now.486893/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/finshaggys-beansprouts.604671/

Soon I will be suing the State of Texas and the Federal Government under Rule 5.1 and the Unconstitutionality of the Controlled Substances Act, so I will either start growing in Texas once the Controlled Substances Act, or in Colorado within the next year. I will also be adding my Religion to the lawsuit.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/271997415/Hindu-Brief#scribd
 
The study of epigenetics is proving that things like "Over Stress" and "Caloric Restriction" can not only make a plant or person stronger later in life, but it can make their descendants more resistant to the factors.

STRESS YOUR PLANTS

This works in lower organisms (plants etc) and even monkeys.



These are 2 older monkeys (27 yrs old) Monkey that was given less food than he wanted every day is on the right.

Don't water your plants for too many days or even a week, then water them.

Give your plant little tiny random cuts on its stalk and branches as it is in the veg state

Supercrop your branches

Kill male plants unless you are breeding

TOP and FIM for more tops

Lollipop the plant

Grow them in small containers until they have roots growing out of the bottom before transplanting

Give your Plant Piercings
 
Smidge34 said:
I've never seen tobacco with yellow flowers. The dark types and local burley tobaccos around my part of Kentucky which are grown for leaf are topped to direct growth to the leaves, but when I have seen them flower and go to seed, the flowers are in those commercial varieties are pink/lavender and remind me of petunias, similar to this. I grew up in the stuff so interesting.
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The Yellow Flowers are Nicotiana Rustica, the regular smoking tobacco is Nicotiana Tobaccum. If you can ever add anything to the thread please do, and anyone else who can also.

I will start growing in like 5 days.
 
And I will be growing both Rustica and Tobaccum. Rustica is stronger, with something like 9% Nicotine Content, but it does not have as many varieties or flavors. You can get Rustica in its Hopi breed, Aztec/Mayan breed and a few other breeds. Then Tobaccum has about 1/3 (so around 3%) of the Nicotine content, but it has a lot more varieties and flavors.

I am going to mix Tobaccum and Rustica, the same way people mix Sativa and Indica, and make a Hybrid. But do that a few times with different Rusticas and different Tobaccums. Then make some 25/75 Hybrids with a third strain mixed in of one of the 2 species.
 
I'm ready to start growing some plants again. I haven't grown anything since I left Colorado to beat my Texas MJ case.
 
Finshaggy said:
The study of epigenetics is proving that things like "Over Stress" and "Caloric Restriction" can not only make a plant or person stronger later in life, but it can make their descendants more resistant to the factors.

STRESS YOUR PLANTS

This works in lower organisms (plants etc) and even monkeys.



These are 2 older monkeys (27 yrs old) Monkey that was given less food than he wanted every day is on the right.

Don't water your plants for too many days or even a week, then water them.

Give your plant little tiny random cuts on its stalk and branches as it is in the veg state

Supercrop your branches

Kill male plants unless you are breeding

TOP and FIM for more tops

Lollipop the plant

Grow them in small containers until they have roots growing out of the bottom before transplanting

Give your Plant Piercings
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Can this be a sticky?

7 stars, would read again, would recommend to the internet.
 
I've grown a little tobacco over the years. Wouldn't mind having a few plants again. Although I have gave up cigars, so not sure what I would use it for. I use weed in my religious ceremonies these days.
 
Larry {the} Gardener said:
I've grown a little tobacco over the years. Wouldn't mind having a few plants again. Although I have gave up cigars, so not sure what I would use it for. I use weed in my religious ceremonies these days.
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What's the yield like? Curing process? Nic content?

Fins need not reply.
 
Indagrow said:
What's the yield like? Curing process? Nic content?

Fins need not reply.
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My yields were pretty low. I never did get a good grip on the tobacco worm problem. The culls that got left in pots at my Mom's always made better than what I put in my garden. Her chickens kept the worms off them so they could at least grow. And I grew tobacco years ago when I was still smoking it. Back then I didn't take care of my garden like I do today.

I just air cured mine. So the nic content would be high {and sugar low} compared to flue cured leaf. Didn't really have enough to sweat. About a hundred pounds is what the big boys sweat per sack.
 
I grew up raising the shit and handling the cutting process as a preteen. The nicotine absorption through your skin is unbelievable. I've been sickened a few times early on from nicotine overload, but you get used to it over time.
 
Smidge34 said:
I grew up raising the shit and handling the cutting process as a preteen. The nicotine absorption through your skin is unbelievable. I've been sickened a few times early on from nicotine overload, but you get used to it over time.
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Are the flowers still broken off by hand? I wrote some stories set in 1718 Northern Carolina and tobacco production was the economic backbone of the colony. Writing the stories was one of the main reasons I tried growing tobacco. I do better writing about something if I have some hands on experience with it.

I made lime plaster by burning oyster shells for the same reason.
 
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