Settle For Nothing

Flo-Jo, someone who gets it. Yeah, this Bush regime has been putting the finishing touches to the end of our freedoms, that's for sure. The congress is also complicent and they all owe their jobs to corporate America. We live in an Oligarchic Plutocracy, not even close to a democracy, democracy died with the advent of the corporation and the corporate lobbyists.
 
And yet, you will attempt to vote the Democrats into even more power making the overall umbrella of the nanny state even more totalitarian.

Vi
 
ViRedd said:
And yet, you will attempt to vote the Democrats into even more power making the overall umbrella of the nanny state even more totalitarian.

Vi
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I have but two choices. I feel that Obama is the best of the two. Obama is more for the people and McSame is more for the rich. Call me duped, but I believe that. You believe that R.P. could change the country, I believe he'd never get to inauguration, bumped off by the PTB., then the "vice pres" who in the world would that be, McSame??? If you think Obama wants change and will fuck the rich, think again about your boys agenda, shut down the CIA, repeal the IRS, abandon our foriegn policy and leave the corporate raiders alone in foriegn countries, for fucks sake, they'd off him in a heartbeat.
 
medicineman said:
I have but two choices. I feel that Obama is the best of the two. Obama is more for the people and McSame is more for the rich. Call me duped, but I believe that. You believe that R.P. could change the country, I believe he'd never get to inauguration, bumped off by the PTB., then the "vice pres" who in the world would that be, McSame??? If you think Obama wants change and will fuck the rich, think again about your boys agenda, shut down the CIA, repeal the IRS, abandon our foriegn policy and leave the corporate raiders alone in foriegn countries, for fucks sake, they'd off him in a heartbeat.
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OK ... you are duped. :blsmoke:

Vi
 
Yeah, but they can only kill me...and that's not so bad.I'd die before I went in a cage.
FLoJo said:
i totally respect your opinion and do agree to a degree... somewhat like in V for vendetta (great movie shows where we are headed)where the girl talks about how they can take everything away but not our thoughts and whatnot... anyways what is in your mind and your freedom of thought or belief can never be taken away but do not think for a second that your tangible freedoms cannot be taken away... if one day martial law was declared and all terrorists were hunted down you could be deemed a terrorist just for agreeing with me... when they throw us both in a cage we have no freedom, it has been taken away...

now this does seem a little drastic and far fetched, but if you look at the patriot act, operation cable splicer, and operation garden plot, it could legally happen
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while it is idealistic to think that we have a choice in reality its two heads to the same beast... hell obama isnt even constitutionally allowed to run for president because not only was he not born in Hawaii like he says he was but in 1967 he lost his citizenship when he became a citizen of indonesia for schooling.. running right over our constitution but who gives a shit right? aparently not the american people!!

and medicine you brought up a good point.. how are we EVER supposed to get our ideas into congress when these corporations pay lobbiest full time to push their agendas? congress works like a mother bird, the baby bird with the loudest chirp gets fed first and if the other baby birds dont fight for it they will end up dead.... we have been dead at the bottom of the nest for years now.. i honestly think a citizen needs to rise up and do like a massive internet campaign during the next election and try to get elected for president 2012.. that sure would ruffle some feathers
 
ViRedd said:
And yet, you will attempt to vote the Democrats into even more power making the overall umbrella of the nanny state even more totalitarian.

Vi
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i have yet to understand why this guy posts on my threads. not one person is talking about electing the democrats,, this isnt about that.. take your election b.s. elsewhere man because no one here is pushing that shit,, this is a thread about how FUCKED the system is that we live in today.. goddamn you fucking republicans DONT GET IT!
 
ViRedd said:
Nope, its what I always do when confronted by the duped. :blsmoke:

Vi
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im pretty sure you are the on that has been duped buddy. you have been tormented and brainwashed by fear tactics and propaganda to the point that you cant even think outside the box and open your eyes. you just want to believe that big brother would never lie or mislead you... would never ever try to pass a quick one over on you. its there to keep you safe and warm at night and always has your interest at heart right? well guess what NEWSFLASH our government is JUST LIKE EVERY GOVERNMENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE EARTH which has lied and misled the people in order to satisfy the aristocrats and elites of the society. everything they do for you is just to draw your attention away from the truth!

Were the persians noble in their quests to attain fabulous wealth and enslave the citizens of the nations that they conquered only for material gain and prestige? Do you think the ancient roman republic wanted the good of the people? or was it world domination and riches that the men of the senate desired? were the various european dynasties trying to make the world a better place? or were they wanting to expand their borders and enlarge their couffers? the answer to these questions should be quite apparent...

the FACT is that POWER not corrupts supremly and all that is wanted by those in power is more power... every government in the history of the earth has proven this fact, and with power comes corruption. the citizens are nothing but peons to move the machine foreward and whatever the peons need to be told in order to keep the wheels in motion will be done..

it started off as not allowing people to learn and to read, and only having ministers of the church allowed to teach the masses... now that we have a speration of church and state in this information age, believe it or not it is easier for them to put us in the dark not by a lack of information but an EXCESS of information... there are so many things going on in the government that you have NO FUCKING CLUE about 1/100 of what is going on... and to make it even easier what they DO want you to know about is spit out by the same 100 channels all owned by the same people... and to make it EVEN EASIER for them to keep you in the dark half of the news is what celebs are getting together and breaking up, what movies are coming out, what stores are having sales, what artists are going on tour and so on... you are bombarded with so much useless shit that you dont even notice the important shit is going right over your head...

YOU my friend are a perfect example of what they want and have been working so hard to achieve... you are blinded by your own ignorance.. unfortunately you are the model american who has complete trust in government and has been utterly duped by all of their tactics. OUR FOREFATHERS gave us the constitution in order to PROTECT us from government... just like the one they were ESCAPING in the first place! does that not mean anything to you?? do you think the right to BARE ARMS is the SECOND most important thing on that list so that us rednecks can go hunt deer and shoot birds for sport?? FUCK NO it is is there because in case we ever need to do someting about it and take it to the extreme we will have the numbers and the guns to do something about it.

why dont you quit being a stereotypical stupid ignorant american and go look at HALF of what i said to google and videos to watch... i know you havent because if you took ONE DAY out of your life to do the research i have a feeling your perspective would be dramatically changed...

wake up, its not a dream


FLo
 
FLoJo said:
im pretty sure you are the on that has been duped buddy. you have been tormented and brainwashed by fear tactics and propaganda to the point that you cant even think outside the box and open your eyes. you just want to believe that big brother would never lie or mislead you... would never ever try to pass a quick one over on you. its there to keep you safe and warm at night and always has your interest at heart right? well guess what NEWSFLASH our government is JUST LIKE EVERY GOVERNMENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE EARTH which has lied and misled the people in order to satisfy the aristocrats and elites of the society. everything they do for you is just to draw your attention away from the truth!

Were the persians noble in their quests to attain fabulous wealth and enslave the citizens of the nations that they conquered only for material gain and prestige? Do you think the ancient roman republic wanted the good of the people? or was it world domination and riches that the men of the senate desired? were the various european dynasties trying to make the world a better place? or were they wanting to expand their borders and enlarge their couffers? the answer to these questions should be quite apparent...

the FACT is that POWER not corrupts supremly and all that is wanted by those in power is more power... every government in the history of the earth has proven this fact, and with power comes corruption. the citizens are nothing but peons to move the machine foreward and whatever the peons need to be told in order to keep the wheels in motion will be done..

it started off as not allowing people to learn and to read, and only having ministers of the church allowed to teach the masses... now that we have a speration of church and state in this information age, believe it or not it is easier for them to put us in the dark not by a lack of information but an EXCESS of information... there are so many things going on in the government that you have NO FUCKING CLUE about 1/100 of what is going on... and to make it even easier what they DO want you to know about is spit out by the same 100 channels all owned by the same people... and to make it EVEN EASIER for them to keep you in the dark half of the news is what celebs are getting together and breaking up, what movies are coming out, what stores are having sales, what artists are going on tour and so on... you are bombarded with so much useless shit that you dont even notice the important shit is going right over your head...

YOU my friend are a perfect example of what they want and have been working so hard to achieve... you are blinded by your own ignorance.. unfortunately you are the model american who has complete trust in government and has been utterly duped by all of their tactics. OUR FOREFATHERS gave us the constitution in order to PROTECT us from government... just like the one they were ESCAPING in the first place! does that not mean anything to you?? do you think the right to BARE ARMS is the SECOND most important thing on that list so that us rednecks can go hunt deer and shoot birds for sport?? FUCK NO it is is there because in case we ever need to do someting about it and take it to the extreme we will have the numbers and the guns to do something about it.

why dont you quit being a stereotypical stupid ignorant american and go look at HALF of what i said to google and videos to watch... i know you havent because if you took ONE DAY out of your life to do the research i have a feeling your perspective would be dramatically changed...

wake up, its not a dream


FLo
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i wish i could give this guy all my rep...he deserves them
 
ccodiane said:
Anyone watching the Democratic convention? Did anyone see that movie Fido? Hilarious!
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you are the only bitch with enough time on his hands to be watching that boring ass shit.. but then again you are boring so i guess it fits... sure, you have even enough time to constantly creep my threads like a total fucking loser.... no wife? makes sense.. dont expect one in the near future,, unless its Vi

AHAHA
 
ccodiane said:
I don't watch that Dem stuff....it's like Baywatch, only not. Everyone is butt ugly. Disgusting!
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im glad that you find this information so intriguing and interesting that you feel compelled to spray more useless shit onto this topic which just so happens to be more important than our lives.. our forefathers died for a hell of a lot less than this...let me ask you something how old are you? youre either too young to care (which isnt an excuse im 21 and i care a shitload) or your too old and grew up in the golden age where you think all of this is just a big conspiracy cooked up by a bunch of whackjobs who took too many mushrooms... we live in an age of UNLIMITED information... at the tips of your fingers you have more information available to you than any other generation in the history of the earth has had access to... and what do you do? watch some dem. designed movie about im assuming is some fucking dog named fido?? dont you see my point this is EXACTLY what they want.. its all a big joke.... bush can be confronted about overspending on the government, military contractors in iraq having no laws to follow and no authority to answer to or any other serious question. all he has to do is make a stupid joke like saying oh good question, let me ask my sec. of defense haha i dont mean to dodge the question but it sure is convienient haha and laugh like an idiot and everyone thinks he is just funny as shit.... ( this happened watch) YouTube - Bush on Contractors in Iraq
keep in mind this is not in regards to people in halliburton pissing on the street or anything like that ... this is in regards to blackwater HIRED mercenaries killing innocent civillians every day, TITAN translators and interrogaters ordering military personell to torture civillians in horriffic ways such as tieng ropes around their dicks cutting off circulation... but 99 percent of the people in the room have NO CLUE what this young lady is talking about so they just laugh at their fucking circus monkey george dubya

no matter what i could ever say or do i know i can never force you to care but if you think about how bad it is now, it will only get worse, i dont know about you but i dont want to have and kids if they will be growing up in this world until something is done about it... looks like all that processed food and mcdonalds has clogged your brain.... one day you will look back and wish you had taken people like me and chuck a little more seriously
 
Memries,
Like the corners of my mind
Misty water-colored memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures,
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were
Can it be that it was all so simple then?
Or has time re-written every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again
Tell me, would we? could we?
Memries, may be beautiful and yet
Whats too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget
So its the laughter
We will remember
Whenever we remember...
The way we were...
The way we were...
 
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