Who's Got The Fostiest Buds? Let's See How Frosty A Bud Can Really Get?
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Just a waiting game now
elkamino
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Currently digging for an orange citrus strain and have a Sweet Seeds Cream Mandarine dueling against a Sin City Frozen Tangerines. The CM smells great but not "mandarine-y, the FT has smelled like an over ripe and starting to turn orange for weeks.
Frozen Tangerines:
Cream Caramel (Fast)
Frozen Tangerines:
Cream Caramel (Fast)
Hammerhead571
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GG#4 S1 #11
Mowgli Ma-Fên
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Delahaze cured (Paradise seeds)
Chemdog fresh cut n washd (GHS)
Chemdog cured (GHS)
Chemdog fresh cut n washd (GHS) Chemdog cured (GHS)
HappyMan420
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HSO Blue Dream
HappyMan420
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ace of spades?
akhiymjames
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zchopper420
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Confidential cheese. I love this pic
Sativied
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Late Night straight up red candy pheno, or "the sweetest thing" as I like to call her while I sniff my fingers. Or "hemp" when I look at the structure and yield...
Flowering under 400w mh. My frostiest pics in this thread are from the same strain under hps and I have phenos under mh with less frost than those. They stretched as much, if not more, and are leafier and yield even less (although they are largely seeded). Less pistils (what you all call calyxes ) = less meat = more visible of the frosty parts of the leaves = perception of more frost... That's my perception anyway...
Flowering under 400w mh. My frostiest pics in this thread are from the same strain under hps and I have phenos under mh with less frost than those. They stretched as much, if not more, and are leafier and yield even less (although they are largely seeded). Less pistils (what you all call calyxes ) = less meat = more visible of the frosty parts of the leaves = perception of more frost... That's my perception anyway...
elkamino
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Wow. I just looked up what a calyx actually is and you're right. Hard to see how there could be such wide incorrect usage of the term. Thanks for that correction!
Sativied
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I was surprised too. Just think of how bad that makes 'brown pistils'... what most refer to as pistils are actually stigmas.
Yet it's nothing new. Older papers and drawing on cannabis used the terminology correctly.
Mel Frank made an attempt once to set everyone straight but like you said, such wide incorrect usage...
a senile fungus
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DLOPEZ1420
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- Ace of Spades
She not leaving me anytime soon..
DLOPEZ1420
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One of my crosses
Grape Ape x Dr. Who
Best accidental breeding to ever happen to me..
Grape Ape x Dr. Who
Best accidental breeding to ever happen to me..
labratlee
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red poison from sweetseeds
Hammerhead571
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The term pistil has developed a special meaning with respect to Cannabis which differs slightly from the precise botanical definition.
This has come about mainly from the large number of cultivators who have casual knowledge of plant anatomy but an intense interest in the reproduction of Cannabis.
The precise definition of pistil refers to the combination of ovary, style and stigma. In the more informal usage, pistil refers to the fused style and stigma. The informal sense is used throughout the book since it has become common practice among Cannabis cultivators
This book gives great descriptions of all parts.
https://books.google.com/books?id=_aK7dTNS1qkC&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=cannabis stigma and pistil&source=bl&ots=A0EhIvb6C4&sig=sP0IP08Vbd_GhKF8TbI6cKByM4k&hl=en&sa=X&ei=74ehVdevOs78oQTt_7-wCg&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=cannabis stigma and pistil&f=false
This has come about mainly from the large number of cultivators who have casual knowledge of plant anatomy but an intense interest in the reproduction of Cannabis.
The precise definition of pistil refers to the combination of ovary, style and stigma. In the more informal usage, pistil refers to the fused style and stigma. The informal sense is used throughout the book since it has become common practice among Cannabis cultivators
This book gives great descriptions of all parts.
https://books.google.com/books?id=_aK7dTNS1qkC&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=cannabis stigma and pistil&source=bl&ots=A0EhIvb6C4&sig=sP0IP08Vbd_GhKF8TbI6cKByM4k&hl=en&sa=X&ei=74ehVdevOs78oQTt_7-wCg&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=cannabis stigma and pistil&f=false
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Sativied
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As Mel mentioned in that article, the misnomer calyx started with that same book and that Robert apologized years later for introducing that incorrect usage. So that books is in this context the worst reference - despite its name it's not an authoritative source on the structure of cannabis flowers.
Pic shows the stigmas. From a distance it looks like a style with stigmas but as you can see if you look closely the stigmas together form the hair most call pistil. Leaving out the ovary is imo not just a slight difference, especially combined with the misused term 'calyx'.
Cannabis growers have their own terminology yes but the terms pistil, stigma, and style, and calyx and bracts etc refer to the basic flower structure model used to identify all flowers on the planet and in that regards Cannabis Sativa L. does not have a special meaning (there's no misconception amongst botanist and growers concerned with hemp or researchers concerned with the drug variety). What it does have is a huge misinformed following and because of prohibition a lack of professional botanists, authors and educators publishing accurate information.
The misuse of calyx and pistil are good examples of parroting. For those a little more interested than that it's essential to know the correct terminology. Basics like like stigmas receive pollen, seeds grow in a pistil, bracts enclose the pistil and are covered with trichs, male flowers have a calyx. Etc. etc.
I don't expect or suggest cannabis growers suddenly start using the correct terminology, I just think it's good to be aware of the fact they are misnomers. Although, if you ditch calyx, it needs its own name back...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-1st-hermie-am-i-right.837031/
Reading my reply there just makes me laugh... pistils coming out of calyxes... lol
That thread contains good pictures of "pistils". Pistils without a bract (hence no trichs). Nr. 6 in the drawing I posted earlier above.
Here's another one:
The hemp flower is pistil with bract, next to it is the pistil. Two hairs straight out of a seed... not really, but that's what it looks like, especially if you stick with invalid terminology.
Pic shows the stigmas. From a distance it looks like a style with stigmas but as you can see if you look closely the stigmas together form the hair most call pistil. Leaving out the ovary is imo not just a slight difference, especially combined with the misused term 'calyx'.
Cannabis growers have their own terminology yes but the terms pistil, stigma, and style, and calyx and bracts etc refer to the basic flower structure model used to identify all flowers on the planet and in that regards Cannabis Sativa L. does not have a special meaning (there's no misconception amongst botanist and growers concerned with hemp or researchers concerned with the drug variety). What it does have is a huge misinformed following and because of prohibition a lack of professional botanists, authors and educators publishing accurate information.
The misuse of calyx and pistil are good examples of parroting. For those a little more interested than that it's essential to know the correct terminology. Basics like like stigmas receive pollen, seeds grow in a pistil, bracts enclose the pistil and are covered with trichs, male flowers have a calyx. Etc. etc.
I don't expect or suggest cannabis growers suddenly start using the correct terminology, I just think it's good to be aware of the fact they are misnomers. Although, if you ditch calyx, it needs its own name back...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-1st-hermie-am-i-right.837031/
Reading my reply there just makes me laugh... pistils coming out of calyxes... lol
That thread contains good pictures of "pistils". Pistils without a bract (hence no trichs). Nr. 6 in the drawing I posted earlier above.
Here's another one:
The hemp flower is pistil with bract, next to it is the pistil. Two hairs straight out of a seed... not really, but that's what it looks like, especially if you stick with invalid terminology.
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