Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

testiclees

testiclees

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Joedank said:
dude i do a farmers market i could not in good faith sell anything you pictured to the public . the regulars would just straight ask for hlf off ...
lets move the story closer to home .
i was at the Build a soild warehouse yesterday . i gotta say they source some of the finest soil ammendments and cutting edge crop science food . left with the TM-7 , myco, and a 13% N amino foliar from india that looks good for turf and veggies in full sun... i will be trying to do a custom mix with them as the owner was quite accomadating to all my questions and the folks he employed were local cats . nice clean shop . kinda know it allish but dont yopu gotta be in this industry??
the heart is in the right place IMO.... as for the mars LEDS he only has them cuz he uses them says his margin is 4% on them so he may dorp them if that goes away...wish the bags they have are more durable but it all goes into jars amd bins... i rambel...
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Dude youre mistaken that produce looks fine. i work daily with the most respected farmers attending nyc and philly farmers mkts.

Elaine ingham is widely criticized for her "science". Microbeman has posted instances of straight up false claims and incorrect organism identifications.

The build a soil folks ARE good people but they are not leading soil consultants nor do they market themselves as experts. What is "cutting edge crop science food" ? They are most definitely not offering any cutting edge crop sciece. Ferti nitro has been used to charge bio char for a few years, the bio ag products are available on ebay. Theres nothing edgy about the products you purchased.

Soil tests are an excellent starting point.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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testiclees said:
Dude youre mistaken that produce looks fine. i work daily with the most respected farmers attending nyc and philly farmers mkts.

Elaine ingham is widely criticized for her "science". Microbeman has posted instances of straight up false claims and incorrect organism identifications.

The build a soil folks ARE good people but they are not leading soil consultants nor do they market themselves as experts. What is "cutting edge crop science food" ? They are most definitely not offering any cutting edge crop sciece. Ferti nitro has been used to charge bio char for a few years, the bio ag products are available on ebay. Theres nothing edgy about the products you purchased.

Soil tests are an excellent starting point.
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look at pic again only 20% of the tom's are red and ripe the rest are underripe lol might as well go to shop n save
you "Work" at....
well i grow the food and my wife sells it . we give away cracked or blem fruit at the end ...
noone said dr elaine was doing anything except advising ALOT of Farmers that seem to do Pretty well...falsafying claims SAD...
soil test are key ....
who said Build a soil was specalist ?? they quote Dr. faust ALOT and i LIKE his style.... i MENT cutting edge i the CONCIOUS picking of products so i dont have to grill the soil guy about whats in there... its a BIG concern of mine as buying in bulk is key for me and they are close...
 
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drekoushranada

drekoushranada

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I been reading but may have overlooked. Is it OK for me to run no till in a perpetual manner? I want to veg for 3-4 weeks then plant them in there final home to flower. I will be setting aside a 5x5 or 4x4 tent to test this growing method. This will be my first run with organics. I do coco DTW at the moment.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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drekoushranada said:
I been reading but may have overlooked. Is it OK for me to run no till in a perpetual manner? I want to veg for 3-4 weeks then plant them in there final home to flower. I will be setting aside a 5x5 or 4x4 tent to test this growing method. This will be my first run with organics. I do coco DTW at the moment.
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i have had good success with a large bed perpetual . but some strains if overvegged can create such a dense mat of roots .... it is had not to want to till...lol.. so i plant rye or alfalfa and grow it a few weeks the cut and let rest a few weeks ... ammend/top dress and the next round looks better than the 1st...:)
 
drekoushranada

drekoushranada

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Joedank said:
i have had good success with a large bed perpetual . but some strains if overvegged can create such a dense mat of roots .... it is had not to want to till...lol.. so i plant rye or alfalfa and grow it a few weeks the cut and let rest a few weeks ... ammend/top dress and the next round looks better than the 1st...:)
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You think I will be better off in 10 or 15 gallon pots as a no till newb or just do the soil bed?
 
Joedank

Joedank

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drekoushranada said:
You think I will be better off in 10 or 15 gallon pots as a no till newb or just do the soil bed?
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are you good at feeling out a plant in general and have a good grasp of how they are supposed to llok thru the stages of growth .. FUCK yea do a bed . i LOVE mine once the plants get moving its hella nice an fogiving . i use a mosture meter near the end of flower to be sure the max O2 gets to the plants (2 bars) ... 10 gallon pots are great and i use them kinda yeild larger plant to plant unless i trellis my beds REAL well....hope i helped..
 
drekoushranada

drekoushranada

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Joedank said:
are you good at feeling out a plant in general and have a good grasp of how they are supposed to llok thru the stages of growth .. FUCK yea do a bed . i LOVE mine once the plants get moving its hella nice an fogiving . i use a mosture meter near the end of flower to be sure the max O2 gets to the plants (2 bars) ... 10 gallon pots are great and i use them kinda yeild larger plant to plant unless i trellis my beds REAL well....hope i helped..
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You have been a ton of help. Thank you. I think I will start out with 10 gallon pots and see how those go. The plants will be provided a 1000w light for flower. The amendments will come from Build a Soil. I think 2000 red wigglers will do for what I have in mind. Time to place an order so I can start cooking. I'm sure this will be a great experience. Judging how this go I might covert my whole grow room over.
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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drekoushranada said:
You have been a ton of help. Thank you. I think I will start out with 10 gallon pots and see how those go. The plants will be provided a 1000w light for flower. The amendments will come from Build a Soil. I think 2000 red wigglers will do for what I have in mind. Time to place an order so I can start cooking. I'm sure this will be a great experience. Judging how this go I might covert my whole grow room over.
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Source local vermicompost / compost. It'll be cheaper than bas .
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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I couldn't agree more. Their vermicompost is the shit, pun intended. I just wish it wasn't so pricey. Though I can't imagine the dilemma they face with shipping in regards to shipping weight / moisture content; do they let it dry out more so it's cheaper to ship but lacking in its microheard or pay out the ass and ship vermicompost that's at the perfect moisture percentage and teeming with microbes. Decisions decisions.

I bought some local organic compost at $5 per 40lbs and I was extremely disappointed when I got my hands in it. It's good stuff, but compared to something like mount oly it's dogshit. I was going to use it as a top dress in place of vermicompost on my ladies but I'll end up using it as more of a soil base for my friends garden that I'm putting in instead.
Joedank said:
mixing soil i ran out of my own as weel this year..
i bought a local brand but it is not the same . or . in my opinion as good as the stuff BAS sources from new york . feeding worms compost IS better IMO...
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blackswampgenetics

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I haven't read thru all the posts and have done research on other sites about no till. The question I have and seem to be missing is after harvesting and re top dressing your container how long before you can plant your new clone.
 
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