250w HPS Club And Help Guide

stoneslacker

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My next op is def gonna be a SCROG under the 250. This is my first run with the 250w.
Anyone familiar with this type of non serrated leaves at the crown?
Could be caused by excess heat. Or possible nute toxicity. With the majority of your lower leaves
looking in great shape, my vote would be heat. Try blowing
a fan between the bulb and plant canopy.
 

SweetestCheeba

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Could be caused by excess heat. Or possible nute toxicity. With the majority of your lower leaves
looking in great shape, my vote would be heat. Try blowing
a fan between the bulb and plant canopy.
I have one f those widow fans with 2 fans in it blowing directly on the top and bottom of her.
Im using a 250w in a cool tube and the light is about 8 in from the tops and my temps hover around 72-77 and my RH stay in between 40%-50%.
I thought it could possibly be a lock out. do u think I should try a flush with some Epsom salt?
 

stoneslacker

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I have one f those widow fans with 2 fans in it blowing directly on the top and bottom of her.
Im using a 250w in a cool tube and the light is about 8 in from the tops and my temps hover around 72-77 and my RH stay in between 40%-50%.
I thought it could possibly be a lock out. do u think I should try a flush with some Epsom salt?
Probably not heat then, I keep my bare bulb 5 inches or so. I would maybe guess PH then. Have you
checked your runoff? What growing medium are you using?

PH problems can cause all kinds of leaf mutations and nutrient lockouts. When flushing, if not
using a flushing agent, a weak nutrient solution works very well. Flush with 1/2 to 1 gal of eighth
to quarter strength nutes, then follow with 2x container size of PH'ed plain water.

How do you support you screen/net?

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I used 1/8 inch diameter metal rods, bent them to aprox. 11x22", and used coat hangers as support
and attachment to the buckets. I use 2 gal painters buckets from the hardware and remove the handles
and run my coat hangers through the handle holes. Then just adjust position and duct tape to the sides of
the bucket.
 

SweetestCheeba

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Probably not heat then, I keep my bare bulb 5 inches or so. I would maybe guess PH then. Have you
checked your runoff? What growing medium are you using?

PH problems can cause all kinds of leaf mutations and nutrient lockouts. When flushing, if not
using a flushing agent, a weak nutrient solution works very well. Flush with 1/2 to 1 gal of eighth
to quarter strength nutes, then follow with 2x container size of PH'ed plain water.


I used 1/8 inch diameter metal rods, bent them to aprox. 11x22", and used coat hangers as support
and attachment to the buckets. I use 2 gal painters buckets from the hardware and remove the handles
and run my coat hangers through the handle holes. Then just adjust position and duct tape to the sides of
the bucket.
Im using an "organic" soil with perlite woodchips and coarse gravel pre-added.
I have not checked my runoff yet. Im hoping its a lockout I can clear with a flush out.
I really don't wanna use a lite nute flush in case there is a build up at the base of the roots. If I flush with the Epsom salt about how much should I add to a gal.
She is in a 3gal pot and I usually feed her a half gal and she loves it so ill flush her with a whole gal today.
 

stoneslacker

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I grow in perlite so my soil knowledge is limited. I have a friend who had problems
using gravel in the bottom of his soil buckets. It was probably the type of gravel he used,
but he switched to coarse perlite and solved the problem.

I would come back to PH as my diagnosis then. IIRC soil has some variance to ph depending
on a number of factors, but anywhere from 6.0 - 7.0 is what I hear. Maybe check runoff and adjust
depending on where it is sitting.

There are some good people in the Plant Problems forum that might have a more informed diagnosis
if you post a pic there.
 

stoneslacker

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Im using an "organic" soil with perlite woodchips and coarse gravel pre-added.
I have not checked my runoff yet. Im hoping its a lockout I can clear with a flush out.
I really don't wanna use a lite nute flush in case there is a build up at the base of the roots. If I flush with the Epsom salt about how much should I add to a gal.
She is in a 3gal pot and I usually feed her a half gal and she loves it so ill flush her with a whole gal today.
I forgot, didn't you say that you had to move them and the light cycle was messed for
a few days? Was she kept completely dark during that time, at least during her normal
dark time?

Reason I'm saying is it almost looks like re-veg leaves. If she had some light stress, depending
on how sensitive she is, she may have started to re-veg. I don't know for sure, just throwing
it out there.
 

SweetestCheeba

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I forgot, didn't you say that you had to move them and the light cycle was messed for
a few days? Was she kept completely dark during that time, at least during her normal
dark time?

Reason I'm saying is it almost looks like re-veg leaves. If she had some light stress, depending
on how sensitive she is, she may have started to re-veg. I don't know for sure, just throwing
it out there.
Yes she was in complete dark I covered her with a plastic bag and then one of my shirts over that.
If she has started there is no turning back is there?
 

stoneslacker

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Yes she was in complete dark I covered her with a plastic bag and then one of my shirts over that.
If she has started there is no turning back is there?
I'm still not sure re-veg is the issue, but it could very well be. Obviously run
her till the finish and harvest what you can.
Possibly cutting her to an 11/13 or a 10/14 light cycle
might help her finish better. Judging by the previous pics it looks like things were
going smooth until the move happened.
 

SweetestCheeba

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I'm still not sure re-veg is the issue, but it could very well be. Obviously run
her till the finish and harvest what you can.
Possibly cutting her to an 11/13 or a 10/14 light cycle
might help her finish better. Judging by the previous pics it looks like things were
going smooth until the move happened.
Yea im def gonna let her ride. And have u used the shorter lights on cycle to rush flowering?
The crazy thing is those pics are from right after the move. When I put her back under the light and fed her she took off. and this jus started 2 days ago.
 

stoneslacker

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Yea im def gonna let her ride. And have u used the shorter lights on cycle to rush flowering?
The crazy thing is those pics are from right after the move. When I put her back under the light and fed her she took off. and this jus started 2 days ago.
It would definitely take a few days to possibly over a week for her to start showing issues
of re-veg. It took me nearly 2 months to clone and reveg a cutting I took in week 5 of flower
once.

The good thing is that she is back under a flowering light schedule so if
it is reveg things, should end up not much worse than they are now. Might
want to let them go another week too if needed.

Edit: I flower under 11/13 from go, and will drop to 10/14 the last 2 weeks of
flower. I also use the 3 day dark period before harvest, but I cannot honestly
tell if they finish quicker or not. I do know that yield is not affected with the 11 hour
light schedule.
 

SweetestCheeba

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It would definitely take a few days to possibly over a week for her to start showing issues
of re-veg. It took me nearly 2 months to clone and reveg a cutting I took in week 5 of flower
once.

The good thing is that she is back under a flowering light schedule so if
it is reveg things should end up not much worse than they are now. Might
want to let them go another week too if needed.
I figured once she started theses traits that I was gonna have to let her ride a lil longer.
U think a small flush with Epsom salt would be beneficial? How much should I add to a gal of water?
 

stoneslacker

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I figured once she started theses traits that I was gonna have to let her ride a lil longer.
U think a small flush with Epsom salt would be beneficial? How much should I add to a gal of water?
Sorry, I've never flushed with epsom just used as a mag supplement before
I switched to synth Cal/Mag. Using the perlite hempy buckets for my grow I usually
flush 2-3 times during the flowering cycle, starting at around day 17.
 

SweetestCheeba

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The last few runs have been 12/12 my first few i vegged for a bit to learn how to train em. i usually get in between 1.5- 2.5 oz from a 12/12 run, depending on how I train them.
 
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