whats the best NPK for flowering

[XEREYUSONE]

Has anybody used either Budzilla or Growzilla before?

I just started using Budzilla NPK 30 30 70 for flowering

Any thoughts on preferred NPK ratios for Vege and flowering?

and what is a good watering cycle

 

[budman111]

30 30 70 is a tad whacky.

 

[az2000]

Any thoughts on preferred NPK ratios for Vege and flowering?

and what is a good watering cycle

A common recommendation is 3-1-2 in veg, 1-3-2 in flower. Water when your medium is dry.

 

[TonightYou]

A common recommendation is 3-1-2 in veg, 1-3-2 in flower. Water when your medium is dry.

That or even 1-1-1. I think 1-3-2 in later flower is fine but the first few weeks in flower, plants love their nitrogen.

 

[XEREYUSONE]

A common recommendation is 3-1-2 in veg, 1-3-2 in flower. Water when your medium is dry.

my watering cycle is day one nutes, day two water only, day 3 no water or nutes then repeat
and is it better for high phosphorus or potassium

 

[az2000]

my watering cycle is day one nutes, day two water only, day 3 no water or nutes then repeat and is it better for high phosphorus or potassium

Does your soil dry out completely every day? If not, then you'll cause problems if you keep the soil too wet all the time. It also affects the ph range the plant experiences because soil ph rises as it dries. Keep it moist all the time and you hold it lower.

A good way to know when to water is to lift the container. If it feels inordinately light it's time to water. (If you don't know what too dry feels like, you can withhold water from a mature, vegging plant until its leaves droop. Lift the container to learn what it feels like. Going forward, try not to water until it gets almost that dry. It won't hurt much to let it get so dry the leaves droop. They'll bounce back in 30 minutes after watering. But, it's still a stress and shouldn't be done a lot.).

As far as alternating feed/water, you can also spread the feed across all waterings. For example, instead of 1tsp fertilizer in one watering (followed by plain water the next), you can feed 1/2 tsp each watering. I've never seen a reason to alternate feed/water. Someone said it helps the soil biology recover from synthetic nutrients. But, IMO, giving 50% less synthetic nutrients means there's less to recover from. Should come out to the same thing either way. (If you're concerned about soil biology you should be incorporating organic nutrients to minimize the amount of synthetics used.).

As far as higher P and/or K being "better." You'll have to be more informative. Better for what? What stage of plant growth? As has already been said, some people use 1-1-1 all the way through. Many recommend 3-1-2 in veg, 1-3-2 in flower. Some like PK 1-2 throughout veg and flower. I don't think it matters as much as some people believe. Learn what N, P and K deficiencies look like and let that be your guide.

 

[RM3]

When talking NPK ratios, growers should consider that hydro and container gardening are a tad different the ratios mentioned (1-3-2) are good for hydro but if you are growing in containers (soil or soil less) a 1-2-3 is better

 

[XEREYUSONE]

A good way to know when to water is to lift the container. If it feels inordinately light it's time to water. (If you don't know what too dry feels like, you can withhold water from a mature, vegging plant until its leaves droop. Lift the container to learn what it feels like. Going forward, try not to water until it gets almost that dry. It won't hurt much to let it get so dry the leaves droop. They'll bounce back in 30 minutes after watering. But, it's still a stress and shouldn't be done a lot.).

As far as higher P and/or K being "better." You'll have to be more informative. Better for what? What stage of plant growth? As has already been said, some people use 1-1-1 all the way through. Many recommend 3-1-2 in veg, 1-3-2 in flower. Some like PK 1-2 throughout veg and flower. I don't think it matters as much as some people believe. Learn what N, P and K deficiencies look like and let that be your guide.

plants teind to droop after the day without water and i just use water to flush the leftover nutes i havent used the budzilla yet (which is a hydroponic nute say on bottle to use 2.5mls for soil use) just using organic pre flowering nutrients as im only in my first week of flowering and the NPK for budzilla is 30-30-70 and i see other flowering nutes that have high p then k so what is the better one higher p or k

 

[TonightYou]

Az2000 has the right idea. Learn to read your plants. I don't follow a schedule per say, but I know generally when the plants should be fed, watered or backed off of feeding. My goal is to be proactive with my plants, not reactive.

Just don't use wacky NPK formulas and less is more.

 

[King Arthur]

I don't feed on a schedule, hydro stays about 1000 at most to all times. But that is only a little test square, the rest is in soil and I feed them like once or twice every other week. The feeding chart says like every other watering but that burns the tips of them and I end up losing leaves. I don't like to lose leaves I like to grow my plants with almost every single leaf that they produce their entire life. If they have a burned one I will take it off or let it fall off. Some people say to lollipop but I disagree. Every single leaf provides something to the plant and I am not a chemist or whatever it is. I won't even try to sound smart about it , I just believe that the best buds I have ever grown had the leaves on them and I kept them green the whole run start to finish. The last two weeks I just added water to the res and the ppms in soil were given like 600 all the way to the last day.

Best bud I have ever smoked of my own and even all the people who have tried it said to do that same strain, that was my last run. THey are looking real nice right now but I have lost a few leaves due to missing a watering and the plants stressing. But now things are going good again.

wow high story

 

[XEREYUSONE]

well cutting my plants down as of tomorrow because ive just come home to find that 3 of 4 plants are male which really sucks and i really dont feel like growing from seed again just gonna use clones and play it safe still waiting to see if my last plant is female but im really depressed just wasted 9 weeks on this really mad but mostly just sad

 

[Terk1974]

I made a search for this ratio, extensive to me it held my attention for the time of four days. Long story short, which there were not any short stories when listening to the why's to their formulas. The most successful average numbers seemed to be the ratio of 1-3-2. To what level now is what search, stop at a 9-27-18 in flower or higher? What m/l per liter or gallon etc...

 

[az2000]

To what level now is what search, stop at a 9-27-18 in flower or higher? What m/l per liter or gallon etc...

I go up to around 1-4-2 to 1-5-3 in late flower as a "booster." You can play with doing that versus not doing it, seeing if you notice a difference. Same thing with 1-3-2. Try that versus 1-2-3, 1-2-2 and 1-1-1.

Regarding the strength, shoot for 500-700ppm (US, Hanna, .5 scale) in flower. I made a spreadsheet which can tell you the quantity to use to achieve that ppm (if you don't have a meter). You want to watch for burnt tips and also salt buildup. If your runoff ph becomes acidic over time and the runoff ppms rise, you're feeding too much. You can water for a lot of runoff to minimize that happening, or simply feed less.

 

[budman111]

ive just come home to find that 3 of 4 plants are male which really sucks and i really dont feel like growing from seed again

Buy feminized seeds

 

[Terk1974]

well cutting my plants down as of tomorrow because ive just come home to find that 3 of 4 plants are male which really sucks and i really dont feel like growing from seed again just gonna use clones and play it safe still waiting to see if my last plant is female
but im really depressed just wasted 9 weeks on this really mad but mostly just sad

That's why when growing from seed I take a clone as soon as I can, and get it established, couple days, and throw it straight into flower. Once it shows sex you can decide what your going to do with the parent plants. Sometimes if your clone is male you can just flower it and save pollen and use it later, or the female just finish her out, experiment with her since she's so small there's not much to loose. I like it cause the little I get from the clone is bonus, and bonus bud is always a good thing.