Not a good week for Private spaceflight

Glaucoma

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It doesn't have to be manned to be exploration.

Putting a man in the vehicle adds infinite qualities to be sure, but it also increases the cost and complexity.

IMO sending robots throughout the solar system is better than sending a man to mars.
Of course it doesn't have to be manned, that was my point. The private sector isn't threatening space exploration one bit with these flights.

I'll disagree with you on Mars, though.
 

Harrekin

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It not even technically space travel, the flight only has an apoapsis of 100km.

It's more like riding a bullet that's designed to get to a certain height before falling back.
 

Glaucoma

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It not even technically space travel, the flight only has an apoapsis of 100km.

It's more like riding a bullet that's designed to get to a certain height before falling back.
Yeah, it's pretty weak IMO, but.. a necessary step.
 

SmokeyDan

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Of course it doesn't have to be manned, that was my point. The private sector isn't threatening space exploration one bit with these flights.

I'll disagree with you on Mars, though.
I'll agree we could learn more from man missions to mars than the rovers there.

But are you suggesting that the increased data from one planet would outweigh the aggregate gleaned from our exploration of the solar system?
 

Glaucoma

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I'll agree we could learn more from man missions to mars than the rovers there.

But are you suggesting that the increased data from one planet would outweigh the aggregate gleaned from our exploration of the solar system?
Nah, that'd be foolish. When you gave an opinion on which was 'better', it's all relative to what goal you have in mind. As much as I'd love to know more about a whole lotta shit, I'd rather see man walking on Mars right now. That's a big step towards getting all of our eggs out of 1 basket, and I think we need to do it ASAP.

We have all the time in the Universe to get answers to bigger questions. I wanna make sure we are around to ask, first. So yeah, sending any sort of manned missions (even back to the moon) is 'better' IMO at this time. We need the experience!
 
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SmokeyDan

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Nah, that'd be foolish. When you gave an opinion on which was 'better', it's all relative to what goal you have in mind. As much as I'd love to know more about a whole lotta shit, I'd rather see man walking on Mars right now. That's a big step towards getting all of our eggs out of 1 basket, and I think we need to do it ASAP.

We have all the time in the Universe to get answers to bigger questions. I wanna make sure we are around to ask, first. So yeah, sending any sort of manned missions (even back to the moon) is 'better' IMO at this time. We need the experience!
Colonizing mars isn't like splitting your eggs into two baskets. It's like putting your eggs in opposite ends of the same basket.

Orbital dwellings that could sustain for 50 years would be sufficient to allow our civilization to survive an asteroid strike or nuclear winter.

Both would do, and if we had one we could have the other.

But I'd rather live in an orbital platform than on a planet a year from earth.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Colonizing mars isn't like splitting your eggs into two baskets. It's like putting your eggs in opposite ends of the same basket.

Orbital dwellings that could sustain for 50 years would be sufficient to allow our civilization to survive an asteroid strike or nuclear winter.

Both would do, and if we had one we could have the other.

But I'd rather live in an orbital platform than on a planet a year from earth.
Pixar concluded option C, the flying Dutchman in space.

With such success, we get Machete Kills Again ... in Space.

Thank you Pixar! :finger:

 

schuylaar

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I didnt think of it

The Canada kit contains a T-shirt, flag pin (top right), patch and window decal (lower right). A quick reference guide titled "How to Speak Canadian, Eh?" is also thrown in.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6666338/ns/us_news-weird_news/t/american-abroad-try-traveling-canadian/

https://www.google.com/search?q=american tourists posing as canadians&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGHP_enUS495&gws_rd=ssl

totally +rep chesus..us southerners don't think of those things..



:clap:

:lol:
 

Glaucoma

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Colonizing mars isn't like splitting your eggs into two baskets. It's like putting your eggs in opposite ends of the same basket.

Orbital dwellings that could sustain for 50 years would be sufficient to allow our civilization to survive an asteroid strike or nuclear winter.

Both would do, and if we had one we could have the other.

But I'd rather live in an orbital platform than on a planet a year from earth.
The human body can't survive without gravity for that long. You'd have to build a huge spinning station if you wanna live on it for any large length of time. You'd start going blind and whatnot.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Sure they are. We get data back from Voyager 1 through NASA's Deep Space Network. We can still give it commands as well.
That's now. You said 1,000 years.

According to wiki,

"] Voyager 1 is expected to continue its mission until 2025, when its generators will no longer supply enough power to operate any of its instruments."
 
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