Too Many Plants in SCROG?

[fuzzyl]

another 24 hrs has gone by and leaves don't look worse for wear at 14 inches. might drop lights down another 3 or 4 inches and keep a close eye on them. I just wonder how far you can drop the lights before the outer edges of the grow area lose significant light (drop off). Maybe that's not an issue with 1000w and a 4x4 area.

just keep a eye out because the top leaves might lose their green if it's too close think it's called light burn

 

[CannaReview]

in my little 4x4 grow room I ran 4 plants in 3 gallon pots and it was over crowded. Only got about 6 ounces off those 4 plants. I went to 1 3 gallon pot next run and ended up pulling over 10 ounces dry off that one plant. Went to a 5 gallon pot on this current run. Goal is a pound.

49 Diesel in a 4x4 tent. Pulled anywhere from 1.4-1.5 lb with no neg time, stright to flower from clone.

 

[selfmedicator462]

how long do you veg?

been vegging around 4 weeks. I weave my stems in the screen till its almost full. When i flip to flower the stretch will fill in the rest of the screen.

 

[philbu]

No problem man, here's a chart about hps lighting and lumens and stuff, I know there's some good threads on riu but I couldn't find the posts, just make sure it's not too hot, it looks like you have a good air cooled system so you should be fine at 12 inches, but just watch them for heat stress and if they are fine you should be good to go.. As you can see on the chart lumens decrease dramatically every inch higher, I would never go less than 12" though because that would reduce the light coverage quite a bit

thanks much for that AP, very useful : )

 

[philbu]

just keep a eye out because the top leaves might lose their green if it's too close think it's called light burn

right, will look for that bleaching!

 

[AlphaPhase]

49 Diesel in a 4x4 tent. Pulled anywhere from 1.4-1.5 lb with no neg time, stright to flower from clone.

Impressive, I love growing sog, my favorite style grow is a 36 site flood table 4x4. I used to pull about 1.5 to 2 lb monthly running a perpetual grow, it was very productive. But I had to change my style to less plants now since my County only allows 12 plants freaking sucks

 

[fuzzyl]

49 Diesel in a 4x4 tent. Pulled anywhere from 1.4-1.5 lb with no neg time, stright to flower from clone.

cool love ebb an flow 4x4's, what nutes?

 

[philbu]

Impressive, I love growing sog, my favorite style grow is a 36 site flood table 4x4. I used to pull about 1.5 to 2 lb monthly running a perpetual grow, it was very productive. But I had to change my style to less plants now since my County only allows 12 plants freaking sucks

I've always had an interest in sog, the idea of stand alone colas was intriguing, may still try it sometime. But, can't you still get a comparable yield with a 12 plant scrog?

 

[CannaReview]

Impressive, I love growing sog, my favorite style grow is a 36 site flood table 4x4. I used to pull about 1.5 to 2 lb monthly running a perpetual grow, it was very productive. But I had to change my style to less plants now since my County only allows 12 plants freaking sucks

Yah love sog but yes

I've always had an interest in sog, the idea of stand alone colas was intriguing, may still try it sometime. But, can't you still get a comparable yield with a 12 plant scrog?

Well you might get a bigger yield too but I was trying to find a fast method for tents. Using Diesel with no veg time ie straight to flower from clone you can crop in 7 weeks. I wish I had all my photo from several years still available but looks like I deleted them. I had photos of pop cans next to the colas to show size. I have one more HD to look through to see if I can find them.

 

[Blaze23]

Can somebody explain to me how too many plants in a scrog can hurt your yield? As long as the screen is full what is the difference?

 

[AlphaPhase]

Can somebody explain to me how too many plants in a scrog can hurt your yield? As long as the screen is full what is the difference?

A true Scrog is training a low number of plants to fill a large canopy. Using many plants would be a sog and not a true Scrog because the plants would not have to be trained a lot to fill the net. Also, a large number of plants in a Scrog, say 8 in a 5x5 area, the canopy will be way too over crowded, and over crowding can potentially lessen yield.

 

[AlphaPhase]

That's just from my personal experience