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canndo

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I think racism today is learned primarily from the
brainwashed (white guilt ) professors infesting the universities.

I think the major purveyors of
it our liberal universities and in part the us government
by allowing racist affirmative action programs.

Yep, everything bad can eventually be traced back to government or Universities. What a snug little world you got there. I had a girlfriend who had a racist dog. He would only bark or growl at black men and I saw the dog chase a poor black guy up to the roof of a car. the dog was a rescue. I wonder greentrip, which university did the dog attend?

Fact is that parents teach their children racism,the same way most prejudice is transfered from one to another.
 

UncleBuck

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Yep, everything bad can eventually be traced back to government or Universities. What a snug little world you got there. I had a girlfriend who had a racist dog. He would only bark or growl at black men and I saw the dog chase a poor black guy up to the roof of a car. the dog was a rescue. I wonder greentrip, which university did the dog attend?

Fact is that parents teach their children racism,the same way most prejudice is transfered from one to another.
you sure about that? because i have it on unassailable authority (an internet doctor who i honor in my sig) that racism against blacks is NATURAL, not learned.
 

Doer

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Wow. I could never keep up without the BuckNotes.(tm)

It is incomprehensible to me that these crackers, ignore reality. How many black guys leave inter-racial relationship, Dr, Quack? And are they just run of by turd relatives, neighbors, supremists that get wind of it? You know there is still defacto mob law against this in many many places. Just the wrong day can arouse the white slime against them. I have had it happen to me. I like girls and any girl that likes me, that is one of the few qualifiers, I need. Skin color is not one. Laws against looking at white girls are still in force...not on the books but still in force.

Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states (ONLY- doer)since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, with many states choosing to legalize interracial marriage at much earlier dates.



Guys like the KKKenyes run off the non-whites. And then they say, SEEEEE?? I TOLD YOU! I have been run off Black girls and Hawaiians by the guys. I have been run off Asian girls, (by the girlfriends)

That just happened to me. I asked out an new friend, last week, Chinese. She was surprisingly racist about it. First she said, she could not imagine dating a white guy. Then she said her girlfriends would be weird, "for weeks." I guess she meant she could not see it lasting for more that 2 dates, until she had to toss me. But, I could see she didn't have the mental tone for dating a white guy.

You want the most racist place in the world. It a toss up. So just say, all Asia, all India, all Afrcia, EU, S. AM. Canada.

All but the USA, in fact.
 

heckler73

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Wow. I could never keep up without the BuckNotes.(tm)

You want the most racist place in the world. It a toss up. So just say, all Asia, all India, all Afrcia, EU, S. AM. Canada.

All but the USA, in fact.
What about Australia and Antarctica?
Are you a continentalist? Do you have something against the southern hemisphere? Is it the koalas and scientist-per-capita ratio you have beef with? ;)
 

BigNBushy

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i've already mentioned how your theory of evolutionary racism has been thoroughly debunked as racism is learned, not innate.

so i'll go ahead and let budley respond to your white guilt accusation since he knows the inner contents of his mind better than i do:


and there ya go.
It has been less than a decade since I took human psychology classes that seemed to think, at least a certain amount of racism was naturally developed.

Knowing you, you found someone that had a white kid and a black kid that got a long and so you trumpet it as evidence of debunkment.

Just saying that your threshold of what good evidence really is has been pretty shitty here lately.
 

UncleBuck

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It has been less than a decade since I took human psychology classes that seemed to think, at least a certain amount of racism was naturally developed.

Knowing you, you found someone that had a white kid and a black kid that got a long and so you trumpet it as evidence of debunkment.

Just saying that your threshold of what good evidence really is has been pretty shitty here lately.
racism is a learned behavior.

there is some evidence that the idea of ingroups and outgroups is somewhat innate, but studies on that only show further that racism is learned.

we could talk about how the same factors (such as being more exposed to diversity) that come into play with ingroups and outgroups also debunk evolutionary racism when it comes to amygdala studies, but like usual, you would probably not bother with reading the assigned material and just blather incessantly about some anecdotal and likely fabricated tale about your personal experience anyway.

so make yourself useful and make me my sandwich. don't skimp on the lettuce.
 

BigNBushy

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It was as much build and husbanded on the back of slaves. Many of the founders had slaves. The North hated the blacks and were glad to sell them south based on the racist notion, blacks can't function up north. It is the same bullshit, England pulled. The fact is, slaves are more expensive if you have to house them in winter. So, slave labor is not cheap in the northern climes.

The North State followed England in shame. If we can't have slaves, no one can. Very simple. And the most racist place in America by far, is the Northeast, not the South. We had Decrees to help us shake it. Not so the North.

South Boston is a racist, sick place, today, It was one of the first slave ports. Slaves came, sold from England to get rid of them.
Of course slaves did some of the labor. So did Chinese, natives and others.

But who built the panama canal? Teddy Roosevelt did. Did he do much actal work there? Nope.

The man who swings the hammer does not get the credit when he is told what to do and paid (or forced) to do it. The credit has always gone to the person who financed, engineered or planed the project.

Anyone can operate a shovel.

But what you say about slavery in the north is true. They used labor of poor free recent immigrants to build the Erie canal because it was dangerous and slaves were to expensive. A dead Irish man cost much less than a slave.
 

BigNBushy

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racism is a learned behavior.

there is some evidence that the idea of ingroups and outgroups is somewhat innate, but studies on that only show further that racism is learned.

we could talk about how the same factors (such as being more exposed to diversity) that come into play with ingroups and outgroups also debunk evolutionary racism when it comes to amygdala studies, but like usual, you would probably not bother with reading the assigned material and just blather incessantly about some anecdotal and likely fabricated tale about your personal experience anyway.

so make yourself useful and make me my sandwich. don't skimp on the lettuce.
I think first we need to define racist. I believe hatred for other races might be learned. But a racial preference for ones own race is innate.

I remember the study from psychology. Random children were put into a play room. There were three groups of children playing. One totally of a different race, one mixed, and one of their own race. I believe this was a white and black race only study. It was done in the 1980's iirc. Anyway, children of both races almost exclusively chose to go up the the group of children made up entirely of kids of their own race.

Race was not the only factor shown. Children more strongly selected for same sex groups of friends. But there was a distinct preference for children to choose their own.

On the other hand, there was not any opposition shown by the children when they had to participate with other races. They gladly played with others, but preferred their own.

So hate I can buy that being learned, but then again it all boils down to how you want to define racism.
 

UncleBuck

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But a racial preference for ones own race is innate.

I remember the study from psychology...
and there it is. an uncited, unattributed, most likely misremembered "study".

come back when you've got something other than anecdotes, kiddo.
 

UncleBuck

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/

[h=3]Results[/h]Preliminary examination of the data revealed no significant effects of gender on looking times, so data were combined for further analysis. A paired samples two-tailed t-test conducted on the total time spent looking at Caucasian vs. other-race faces yielded a non-significant result (t = .036, df = 47, p = ns). Observation of the overall mean percentage of looking time verifies that newborns attended equally to both the Caucasian (49.73%) and the other-race faces (50.27%). The overall null preference was represented within each of the three ethnicity conditions: African (49.02%) vs. Caucasian (50.98%); Middle Eastern (49.83%) vs. Caucasian (50.17%); Asian (51.66%) vs. Caucasian (48.34%), with no comparison approaching significance. Newborns also displayed a null preference in the Caucasian (49.04%) vs. Caucasian (50.96%) condition.

[h=3]Discussion[/h]Overall the results obtained in Experiment 1 suggest that at birth, newborns display no spontaneous preferences for faces from own- or other-ethnic groups. Although null results can be difficult to interpret, it is unlikely that these results are due to an inability to differentiate between faces from different ethnic groups, given that newborns discriminate between faces from within their own ethnic group (Pascalis & de Schonen, 1994). The most likely account is that newborns are able to discriminate between faces from different ethnic groups, but no group elicits a greater attraction.








that's how you cite a study, martha. now please return to attending to the details of my sandwich.
 

BigNBushy

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and there it is. an uncited, unattributed, most likely misremembered "study".

come back when you've got something other than anecdotes, kiddo.
What is a study but a collection of anecdotes?

I'm not writing a peer revised journal article here.

I've never seen a forum where someone included "[sic]" until I met you.

It's pretty pathetic.
 

Dr Kynes

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you sure about that? because i have it on unassailable authority (an internet doctor who i honor in my sig) that racism against blacks is NATURAL, not learned.
what an interesting interpretation.

SOCIAL learning is in fact natural for humans, and preference for your own social group is also natural.

if all natural preferences must be purely instinctual, and must be present from birth, then clearly a dog's preference for chasing cats, and cat's preference for chasing mice must be unnatural...





in a world where tigers and bunnies can be friends, your narrow and ignorant opinion is irrelevant.



of course in your twisted view of multiculturalism, the tiger must cease being a tiger and become a bunny, otherwise he is racist.

what a sad little creature you are.
 

UncleBuck

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preference for your own social group is also natural.
did you miss the post i just made where newborns display no preference for their own racial group?

that's what happens when you ignore opposing viewpoints, as you are doing in my case. you become ignorant. or in your case, even more ignorant.
 

Dr Kynes

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did you miss the post i just made where newborns display no preference for their own racial group?

that's what happens when you ignore opposing viewpoints, as you are doing in my case. you become ignorant. or in your case, even more ignorant.
no, i didnt miss it, unlike you i am not a retard.

you obviously failed to grasp the point i just made, which is:

preference for your own social group is also natural.

a person of one ethnic or racial background raised in a society of a different background will NATURALLY prefer his current social group and it's structures to an alien social structure, even if it is the social group of his biological heritage.

this is NATURAL for humans.

most people of Phillipine ancestry raised in the US would barf if they tried to choke down Balut, and a hypothetical white kid raised as a traditional Hindu in India would refuse to eat a hamburger.

pretty much every black person in america would fail miserably as a Masai hunter, and pretty much every Masai would be utterly incompetent as an auto mechanic.

but i guess reality is racist.
 

UncleBuck

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preference for your own social group is also natural.
there is some evidence that the idea of ingroups and outgroups is innate.

but who you prefer in your group our out of it is completely learned.

newborns show no preference for their own race or another.

racism is a learned behavior.

so you can put the evolutionary racism crap to bed now, sweetheart.
 

Dr Kynes

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there is some evidence that the idea of ingroups and outgroups is innate.

but who you prefer in your group our out of it is completely learned.

newborns show no preference for their own race or another.

racism is a learned behavior.

so you can put the evolutionary racism crap to bed now, sweetheart.
and baby tigers dont associate bunnies with food.

wow, youre suggesting that newborn creatures have no preference, so all behaviours which are not found at birth are unnatural?

what an amazing supposition.

that retarded assumption and a dollar will get you a beverage at mcdonalds.
 

UncleBuck

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wow, youre suggesting that newborn creatures have no preference, so all behaviours which are not found at birth are unnatural?
i'm not suggesting that newborn human babies show no preference for one race over another, i am reminding you that scientific studies show that newborn human babies show no preference for one race over another.

thus your claim that budleydoright's reaction to seeing his sister with a black man is natural is unsupported by the evidence.

we can go into the amygdala studies instead if you want. budleydoright's reaction was a learned behavior. your assertion that his distrust of a black man was natural is complete bullshit, and the amygdala studies will only make your pseudoscientific claim look even more racist.

so just let me know if you want to go there.
 
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