The mods are cracking down!

[Dyna Ryda]

I used to sell in the getto. They called me Toby. I thought it was funny.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

there is no good in racism..like I stated...you are delusional


and while I may not agree with bucky's tactics or methods Nobody can argue his effectiveness.

there was another group of outspoken neonazi holocaust deniers here a year ago.....they are gone now thankfully. cept for their leader nietcheking or some shit. And he doesn't post often thank god. .

There is no delusion in finding good in someone, there is your delusion right there. Everyone has good in them but when you accept some beliefs and not others that is commonly referred to as being a hypocrite.

Also, if neitchking is still here the reason he don't post anymore is cause of him getting stalked and then it being bragged about it here.
But yea, I can see how that would be acceptable.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

I used to sell in the getto. They called me Toby. I thought it was funny.

Why did they call you toby?
I established the nick came Krazie...

 

[UncleBuck]

I was raised in a rough part of town and it was get tough or get hurt.

funny, so many of the members of your group think that those who might be born to the "rough part of town" just need to keep their head down, do well in school, and bootstrap themselves up to success.

that's the expectation that people like you and bignbushy and desertdude and kynes and psi007 and red1966 have anyway.

then you guys bemoan how this crowd born into "the rough part of town" seems to have this attitude of "get tough or get hurt", and assign the fault along racial lines, citing indignantly about how "14% of the population is responsible for X% of this crime or Y% of that crime".

you yourself even posted the "finding" and defended the "finding" that "the best predictor of crime is the number of black and hispanic residents", even after i showed you how false that notion was, and how the best predictor of crime is personal economic status (i.e., being born in the "rough part of town") rather than race or ethnicity.

you are completely blind to the privilege you enjoy, because i promise you that attitudes like you and the members of your group have are directly responsible for how much tougher it is for these people of color to escape the "rough part of town" and everything that goes along with it.

anyhoo, just thought i'd get that out of the way. so how is YOUR group doing?

 

[UncleBuck]

Thinking ones own race is superior is the main requirement to be a racist.

you have claimed, and i quote, that blacks are from "an inferior lot".

now remind me again, what is the opposite of inferior?

 

[UncleBuck]

by the way, is that a civil enough way of calling you guys racist?

because if you want, i can probably call you guys racist in an even more civil manner.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

Hey buck, do me a favor please and just not direct any questions toward me. It will be better for the both of us, try your best to be mature about this, we don't get along and we have nothing in common so therefor nothing should be said between the two of us.

I'm asking you nicely to just leave me alone, that will be for the good of the forum.

 

[UncleBuck]

Hey buck, do me a favor please and just not direct any questions toward me. It will be better for the both of us, try your best to be mature about this, we don't get along and we have nothing in common so therefor nothing should be said between the two of us.

I'm asking you nicely to just leave me alone, that will be for the good of the forum.

seeing as how you are a member in good standing and i am a member in good standing, it is fully within all rules for me to direct a line of inquiry at you, as long as it is within the guidelines that mods will approve.

thus, the only way you're gonna get me to stop directing my line of inquiry at you is pretty simple: you can leave.

otherwise, i am gonna feel free to ask you about your citation and defense of jared taylor's "color of crime" nonsense as i see fit. especially when the conversation at hand is race and racism, and how it applies to your group and its members, as is the case currently in this thread.

i trust you can be mature enough to accept that actions have consequences, and that your decision to post that debunked racial nonsense is gonna have the consequence of me pestering you about it during discussions like this one.

good day.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

seeing as how you are a member in good standing and i am a member in good standing, it is fully within all rules for me to direct a line of inquiry at you, as long as it is within the guidelines that mods will approve.

thus, the only way you're gonna get me to stop directing my line of inquiry at you is pretty simple: you can leave.

otherwise, i am gonna feel free to ask you about your citation and defense of jared taylor's "color of crime" nonsense as i see fit. especially when the conversation at hand is race and racism, and how it applies to your group and its members, as is the case currently in this thread.

i trust you can be mature enough to accept that actions have consequences, and that your decision to post that debunked racial nonsense is gonna have the consequence of me pestering you about it during discussions like this one.

good day.

And sense I asked you nicely to please not talk to me it does become against the rules as there is a rule of no harassment.

I was nice about it and you still tried to attack me, and then you want to speak about maturity. LoL Ok then...
I just figured I would ask.

 

[desert dude]

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/815817-did-you-have-good-parents.html

this is why you're not invited to the cool people group.

Wait. There is a cool people group and I did not get an invitation?

 

[desert dude]

funny, so many of the members of your group think that those who might be born to the "rough part of town" just need to keep their head down, do well in school, and bootstrap themselves up to success.

that's the expectation that people like you and bignbushy and desertdude and kynes and psi007 and red1966 have anyway.

then you guys bemoan how this crowd born into "the rough part of town" seems to have this attitude of "get tough or get hurt", and assign the fault along racial lines, citing indignantly about how "14% of the population is responsible for X% of this crime or Y% of that crime".

you yourself even posted the "finding" and defended the "finding" that "the best predictor of crime is the number of black and hispanic residents", even after i showed you how false that notion was, and how the best predictor of crime is personal economic status (i.e., being born in the "rough part of town") rather than race or ethnicity.

you are completely blind to the privilege you enjoy, because i promise you that attitudes like you and the members of your group have are directly responsible for how much tougher it is for these people of color to escape the "rough part of town" and everything that goes along with it.

anyhoo, just thought i'd get that out of the way. so how is YOUR group doing?

I was raised in one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. I pulled myself out of that. Pulling yourself out of a bad situation is sort of the age old recipe for success. Why do you advocate hopelessness and despair? Why do you denigrate personal responsibility and integrity? Are you really just a poverty pimp that needs a pyramid of failed lives to stand on?

 

[UncleBuck]

And sense I asked you nicely to please not talk to me it does become against the rules as there is a rule of no harassment.

I was nice about it and you still tried to attack me, and then you want to speak about maturity. LoL Ok then...
I just figured I would ask.

you and i are both participating in a discussion about racism right now.

if, in a discussion about racism, i ask you in a polite and civil manner about your ciation and defense of white separatist jared taylor's work in "color of crime", that does not count as harassment.

perhaps if i were to follow you over to toke and talk and remind all the good people over there what your beliefs are, that might count as harassment. but not here and now in this discussion could you call it harassment by any stretch.

in other words, you have ZERO authority to tell me what i may and may not discuss here. so kindly abandon your delusions of authority.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

I was raised in one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. I pulled myself out of that. Pulling yourself out of a bad situation is sort of the age old recipe for success. Why do you advocate hopelessness and despair? Why do you denigrate personal responsibility and integrity? Are you really just a poverty pimp that needs a pyramid of failed lives to stand on?

Pssshhhhh, that makes you a racist cause you left.

What, you too good for the hood? haha

 

[SirGreenThumb]

haha, I used my authority to ask someone nicely to not speak to me, and I even said please.

This place is a hoot.

 

[UncleBuck]

I was raised in one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. I pulled myself out of that. Pulling yourself out of a bad situation is sort of the age old recipe for success. Why do you advocate hopelessness and despair? Why do you denigrate personal responsibility and integrity? Are you really just a poverty pimp that needs a pyramid of failed lives to stand on?

thanks for completely missing the point.

it was sirgreenthumb who said that when you are born in a rough part of town, you "get tough or get hurt". notice how that mindset is not restricted to black people, who you claim shun education and speaking properly because it's a "white" thing?

guess it's more of a personal economic status thing rather than a race thing after all, unless the example before us is not to be believed.

by the way, you didn't pull yourself out, the government did. you succeeded thanks to government money given to you by the most socialist organization on the entire planet earth.

 

[desert dude]

thanks for completely missing the point.

it was sirgreenthumb who said that when you are born in a rough part of town, you "get tough or get hurt". notice how that mindset is not restricted to black people, who you claim shun education and speaking properly because it's a "white" thing?

guess it's more of a personal economic status thing rather than a race thing after all, unless the example before us is not to be believed.

by the way, you didn't pull yourself out, the government did. you succeeded thanks to government money given to you by the most socialist organization on the entire planet earth.

That socialist organization is still looking for a few good men. I guess that excludes you, though.

Many in the black community do shun education because it's a white thing. You are ignorant of such things because you did not experience it. I did. There is nothing racist about recognizing that.

 

[UncleBuck]

Black culture seems to think it is "cool" to shun what they consider white pursuits. You're "acting white" if you speak standard English, learn math and science, etc. Maybe it is understandable, but it has been to their great detriment. If I wanted to invent a way to stay poor and marginalized I could not have done a better job.

I see no evidence whatever that "white people won't hire them".

that's because you are not looking.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873

i would love to hear you elaborate on your theory about "black culture" though, i am sure you are an expert on it. you seem to imply that the problems blacks face are exclusively self-inflicted and self-perpetuated, since you refuse to even acknowledge basic facts about the experience of being black in america.

 

[SirGreenThumb]

That socialist organization is still looking for a few good men. I guess that excludes you, though.

Many in the black community do shun education because it's a white thing. You are ignorant of such things because you did not experience it. I did. There is nothing racist about recognizing that.

Hey DD,
drop me a message when you get the chance, I need to ask you something.

 

[UncleBuck]

That socialist organization is still looking for a few good men. I guess that excludes you, though.

Many in the black community do shun education because it's a white thing. You are ignorant of such things because you did not experience it. I did. There is nothing racist about recognizing that.

there is something distinctly racist about assigning that attitude along racial lines, since many in the white community also shun education.

 

[desert dude]

that's because you are not looking.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873



i would love to hear you elaborate on your theory about "black culture" though, i am sure you are an expert on it. you seem to imply that the problems blacks face are exclusively self-inflicted and self-perpetuated, since you refuse to even acknowledge basic facts about the experience of being black in america.

You have the typical bleeding heart limousine liberal stance and knowledge about race relations. You don't know the first thing about it. You don't know any black people. You grew up in some leafy, white suburb and your high school had AP classes. So naturally, you are the expert on the black experience. You have been duped by the poverty pimps, and you are just too loving, and stupid, to realize that Jackson and Sharpton are in it for themselves.