I saw a spiritual alien and now the UFOs are above My house!

[midgetaus]

I don't see aliens and I am my god because I don't worship anybody else's imaginary friend. It means worshipping your perfect, true self, you fucking idiot.

now now,, settle down grumpy smurf and take your meds....

 

[tyler.durden]

You can not think that everyone had their 3rd eye open? I know I know I am going to the hospital for believing in such...

Not sure if your post is meant as satire, or not. If it is, it's pretty good If it's sincere, it's boring and rather poorly written. Why do we need more ancient, juvenile, mystical concepts to add to the confusion? If that's in line with your personal beliefs, have at it, but we were discussing reality here...

PS: You can call them hallucinations, because if aliens, ghosts or whoever goblin would appear to anyone it would be as a "hallucination", a vision, not seen by anybody else than who, he can percieve reality, and not the world that is told you it is.

That is not reality, that is imagination...

Where do you think these came from? I can pretty much imagine that somebody just made them up, but because thoughts have power, they already exist from then on. Just not before your 2 humanoid eyes.

The old, 'if you can imagine it, it somehow exists within physical reality' bit. Great comic book concept with no basis in reality. Unless you'd like to back up your positive claim with some links to some peer reviewed science, this type of thing is best left in the T&T sub-forum...

 

[noham]

That is not reality, that is imagination...
The old, 'if you can imagine it, it somehow exists within physical reality' bit. Great comic book concept with no basis in reality. Unless you'd like to back up your positive claim with some links to some peer reviewed science, this type of thing is best left in the T&T sub-forum...

Do you not know about placebo?
Thoughts HAVE power!

 

[tyler.durden]

Do you not know about placebo?
Thoughts HAVE power!

Yes, our own thought can have an effect on our own bodies, that's a far cry from insinuating that what we imagine somehow magically manifests itself elsewhere in objective reality...

 

[noham]

Yes, our own thought can have an effect on our own bodies, that's a far cry from insinuating that what we imagine somehow magically manifests itself elsewhere in objective reality...

Can you agree upon my theory, that,- according to what we just talked about -, if somebody believes in any god, that he believes isn't him/her, he slowly "cuts" away a part of themselves which detains that part from actually helping and working with them as a full body/soul? (ironically, that's not what they achieve by praying and worshipping.)

If you want to counter with "no spirituality. that isn't existent because I (!) don't see it), then imagine it as a split personality/schizophrenic case.
I believe it's so, so very wrong to think that science and religion/spirituality must contradict each other.

 

[Skuxx]

Can you agree upon my theory, that,- according to what we just talked about -, if somebody believes in any god, that he believes isn't him/her, he slowly "cuts" away a part of themselves which detains that part from actually helping and working with them as a full body/soul? (ironically, that's not what they achieve by praying and worshipping.)

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LOL. I'm kidding. It's just what came to mind and I had to do it.

 

[noham]

[video=youtube;OkiuAxP9vPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkiuAxP9vPM[/video]

LOL. I'm kidding. It's just what came to mind and I had to do it.

The contrast between thinking how people smoking cannabis should be enlightened (more than that at the very least...) and what is seen on this forum is less than funny.
...I can still think higher beings are just being silent. (and high... )

 

[tyler.durden]

Can you agree upon my theory, that,- according to what we just talked about -, if somebody believes in any god, that he believes isn't him/her, he slowly "cuts" away a part of themselves which detains that part from actually helping and working with them as a full body/soul? (ironically, that's not what they achieve by praying and worshipping.)

I agree that when one submits to any external authority over one's own conscious mind, they are fragmenting their own power to effectively run their own life...

If you want to counter with "no spirituality. that isn't existent because I (!) don't see it), then imagine it as a split personality/schizophrenic case.
I believe it's so, so very wrong to think that science and religion/spirituality must contradict each other.

It seems that religion wants so badly to be friends with science, but science wants nothing to do the religion. Why is that? It's religion that comes up with shit that goes against scientific discovery, science is simply following the evidence to come to it's conclusions. Science looks at all available evidence, then tests and refines in order to find the answers. Religion claims to have found the answers, then goes about trying to find data to support them. These are opposite methodologies, so how could they be compatible?

 

[midgetaus]

this section should be called the rational v simple bus VIPS...


a lot of people just went full retard never to return

 

[noham]

this section should be called the rational v simple bus VIPS...


a lot of people just went full retard never to return

...Or you can simply not comprehend.
It can sound crazy and absurd if you have not the mental capabilities to decipher and make something out of it.

You think you are intelligent because you are normal? I bet I learn more in a week than most people ever in their lives.

 

[Nevaeh420]

Why is it a contradiction? You think atheists are less honest than believers? There are many studies that would disagree with you...

I actually believe some Atheists are just as honest as some Believers. The Atheists are being true to their self and so is the Believer.

You are avoiding the issue and creating a strawman, which is a logical fallacy. The issue wasn't about what you believe, it is about how you present those beliefs to others. If you're concerned with honesty, then you would state them as belief. If you're being dishonest, then you would present your beliefs as facts. We know which you choose to do, which is dishonest...

Some things are implied when they are subjective.

Some people might say, "God is real," and that translates into, "I believe in God," because its subjective. Some Atheists might say, "science has all the answers," and a Theist can deduce that, that person BELIEVES science has all the answers. Both the Believer and the Atheist arent lying in this case, its an IMPLIED subjective belief, even though they are making objective claims.

But you just love to pick on Me.

I can't contradict what you say you believe, because I can't get into your mind to know what you believe. I can only contest the facts that you present, because facts are the realm of objective reality, something I have direct access to. When you state your beliefs, no one can argue, when you state things as fact without knowing if they are facts, you're going to be called out on it...

Consider EVERYTHING I say as My beliefs, so you cant contradict what I say, lol. All I say is My beliefs, I apparently dont know any facts. So if everything is My belief, Im not going to say, "I believe" this or that because its implied anyways.

~PEACE~

 

[Nevaeh420]

Anyone thinking about Bruce Almighty?

I didnt watch the movie, so can you fill Me in on the paralells?

~PEACE~

 

[Nevaeh420]

I see UFOs almost every day, except when its cloudy outside, or at least I believe I see UFOs.

Seeing UFOs isnt a big deal to Me any more, it happens almost every single day for Me.

I dare one of you guys to come to Massachusetts and video record the UFOs for yourself, its not like Im lying.

~PEACE~

 

[Nevaeh420]

George, did you know that there are literally thousands of astronomers around the world with advanced equipment that scan the skies 24/7? What are the chances that you, with only your naked eyes, can see what they cannot? They would all absolutely LOVE to report a discovery like the one you're claiming to see, and perhaps get it named after them. You must have the best eyes ever. Or it could be that you're wrong. Which possibility should we believe? Duh...

Or maybe some people know about the UFOs but the government is keeping them top secret to avoid inadvertant chaos, and freaking out the population. A cover up. The UFOs appear every night, that its not too cloudy out, so if it made the NEWS, people would look up in the sky and see the same thing, and potentially freak out.

P.S. Were the other witnesses from the mental hospital?

Some of My witnesses are family, friends, neighbors, and some people claiming to see them move in the mental hospital, but I dont include the people from the mental hospital.

~PEACE~

 

[Skuxx]

Or maybe some people know about the UFOs but the government is keeping them top secret to avoid inadvertant chaos, and freaking out the population. A cover up. The UFOs appear every night, that its not too cloudy out, so if it made the NEWS, people would look up in the sky and see the same thing, and potentially freak out.



Some of My witnesses are family, friends, neighbors, and some people claiming to see them move in the mental hospital, but I dont include the people from the mental hospital.

~PEACE~

So you don't include people from the mental hospital as reliable witnesses? But..... you were in the mental hospital

 

[Nevaeh420]

Easy. Post #38 of this very thread. You don't know what semantics means, it has nothing to do with semantics. Semantics is the study of the meaning of words. None of the meanings of the words you used are in dispute, you simply put them together in a a way to convey something that wasn't true, and you knew it wasn't true. If you knew it wasn't true, that makes it a lie. That's why you admitted to mudminer that he caught you and called you out on it...

I didnt lie, the thread title is simply a misnomer.

I could say, "To Me, I saw a spiritual alien and now the UFOs are above My house." Or I could have said, "I saw a spiritual alien, to Me, and now the UFOs are above My house." But the asthetics arent as good, plus the title may have been too long. I could have been more specific, but I was vague and inadvertantly made a misnomer, I DID NOT LIE.

Either way, to Me, I saw a "spiritual alien", and the alien might have been spiritual too, I dont know.

Simply a misnomer. Go look up what "misnomer" means and then tell Me that it was not a misnomer but a lie.

~PEACE~

 

[Nevaeh420]

So you don't include people from the mental hospital as reliable witnesses? But..... you were in the mental hospital

Thats a good point.

I forget how many people from the mental hospital said they saw the UFOs move. I didnt say they werent "reliable witnesses", I simply just didnt include them because I forget how many said they saw the UFOs. Anyone can see the light from the UFOs, but its seeing the UFOs move that counts.

EDIT- If I included the witnesses from the mental hospital, I would have about 10 total witnessed that said they saw the UFOs move. Anyone with eyes can see the lights from the UFOs, its discerning the movement that takes a good eye.

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

I see UFOs almost every day, except when its cloudy outside, or at least I believe I see UFOs.

Seeing UFOs isnt a big deal to Me any more, it happens almost every single day for Me.

I dare one of you guys to come to Massachusetts and video record the UFOs for yourself, its not like Im lying.

~PEACE~

You state you've been seeing these UFO (even thought we know you mean alien spacecraft) for 5 months or more, but never once in that time could you grab someone's iPhone (the 4s and 5s have amazing video cameras) to take a minute or two of footage? You could even buy a small video camera, take some footage and put it on a flash drive, then upload that video to a pc, then return the camera to get the money back. Since you haven't done this, it sounds like a lie. If I posted that I could ascend into the air and burst into flame at will and I do it everyday, but you guys would have to come to me to see this, you'd wonder why I just didn't take video evidence because it would just be too easy to do this. Put your money where your mouth is and shoot some video, otherwise no one will believe you...

 

[Nevaeh420]

You state you've been seeing these UFO (even thought we know you mean alien spacecraft) for 5 months or more, but never once in that time could you grab someone's iPhone (the 4s and 5s have amazing video cameras) to take a minute or two of footage? You could even buy a small video camera, take some footage and put it on a flash drive, then upload that video to a pc, then return the camera to get the money back. Since you haven't done this, it sounds like a lie. If I posted that I could ascend into the air and burst into flame at will and I do it everyday, but you guys would have to come to me to see this, you'd wonder why I just didn't take video evidence because it would just be too easy to do this. Put your money where your mouth is and shoot some video, otherwise no one will believe you...

Im not in any rush; the UFOs show up daily, for over 5 months now (since I first NOTICED they move), I just cant see them when its too cloudy outside.

My sisters husband saw the UFOs with Me; he shoots videos of Christian rap music; he has a video camera but he doesnt have a lens with a zoom. He said that he might get that zoom lens for his camera, for around a thousand dollars, but I dont know when that will be.

I dont think the UFOs are going away any time soon, so Im not that worried about it, to be veridical.

There has to be a blogger on RIU with a good video camera, that lives near Massachusetts or can make the trip, to vindicate Me.

Its not that big of a deal, if it were a big deal, YOU would come to Massachusetts yourself.

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

I actually believe some Atheists are just as honest as some Believers. The Atheists are being true to their self and so is the Believer.

Well then, why the sarcasm and laughing when you really feel this way? Seems like more dishonesty...

Some things are implied when they are subjective.

Some people might say, "God is real," and that translates into, "I believe in God," because its subjective.

Saying that god is real does mean that the person believes in god, but stating that one believes in god is not necessarily stating that he is real. Many believers are very honest and they're careful to acknowledge that since there is no empirical evidence for god, they need faith to believe. They are not stating that god's existence is a fact, because they have no way of knowing...

Some Atheists might say, "science has all the answers," and a Theist can deduce that, that person BELIEVES science has all the answers.

To my knowledge, no one has ever said that science has all the answers. That's a strawman, you really like those. If science had all the answers, why would science continue searching for answers?

Both the Believer and the Atheist arent lying in this case, its an IMPLIED subjective belief, even though they are making objective claims.

This is untrue. If either of those statements were made as fact, it would be wrong and dishonest. Unless it's stated as a belief, it is by default being presented as fact. You can't weasel your way out of this one, as much as it would help your agenda...

But you just love to pick on Me.

I wish that I didn't have to, but you constantly post bullshit...

Consider EVERYTHING I say as My beliefs, so you cant contradict what I say, lol. All I say is My beliefs, I apparently dont know any facts. So if everything is My belief, Im not going to say, "I believe" this or that because its implied anyways.

As I've explained, it is not implied when speaking about reality. Anyone but you can see there is a world of difference between the sentences, 'the world is flat', and 'I believe the world is flat.' You want your nutty ideas to being able to play in the realm of facts and reality by stating them as fact, and at the same time be able to retreat to, 'well, what I say are just my beliefs' when called out. Just like Chopra: he'll talk quantum physics to support his nutty theories as fact, and when he's called out that these are not facts, he retreats to, 'it's just a metaphor, I didn't mean to present it as fact...' Chopra is fucking brilliant, you are not. If he can't get away with it, you have no shot...