Help now~~germination rate like 10%

KingKanna

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Are these seeds looking good? I tried germinating like 80 of them and got TWO to work out of ALL of them. I hate the paper towel method it sucks. I put a paper towel I wet it I put the seeds then another paper towel and wet and cover FAIL. Should I try the cup of water method? Let them sink in there until the root comes out?photo.jpg
 

canefan

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Please explain more about how you do the papertowel. They need the moisture in the papertowel, wrap in say foil to keep dark and place somewhere warm, wait 1 to 5 days all depends on the strain and how hard the shells are. I place mine on top of my dsl modem with a plastic lid between the modem and the seeds and it works great for me. I can't say I get 100% because there again depends on the seeds themselves but I would say run in the very high 90's overall........my last sativa seeds which have a very hard shell took 5 days for all of them to crack. Some strains in as little as 24 to 36 hours. Good Luck in the future
 

jondamon

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My method is as follows.

Prepare pot with medium and water it well. (Or soak rockwool cube if you use them)

Plant seed pointy side in so you can see the "eye" looking back at you. About 1/8-1/4" deep.

Cover the seed with your medium and water again. (Rockwool, squeeze the sides to envelope the seed)

Light it up using a small cfl or t5.

Last step, wait.




I've had around 3 seeds not germ this way in around 3 years and that's only because I got lazy and started doing it all under my hps.




J
 

tusseltussel

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Plant in medium in cup with drainage holes, I also cover with plastic wrap to keep humidity up. Remove plastic when first sign of sprout... Paper towel method is for kids quite the weed Barron 80 seeds...all these silly tricks are just that...silly
 

CrixMix

Member
Homemade seeds take 7 or 8 days sometimes, I suggest filling half a cup with water and wrapping seeds in toilet paper before dropping in the cup.
 

bass1014

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temps temps temps..key factor in the paper towel method.. need to stay in the high 70's low 80's for the seed to pop..as stated in the above that the paper towel method is a full proof way but the TEMPS have to be spot on.. put moist white towel with seeds in a ziplock bag and lay it on top of an electrical item like a dsl box, refrigerator , cable box, anything that stays on and warm.. even a heating pad on low with a towel over the bag will work. no light .. i have had them open and even start the first set of leaves in the paper towel..
 

Uncle Ben

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Folks, for the hundredth time, there is a reason why conventional horticulturalists, pros, DO NOT use a fuckin' paper towel to germinate their seeds, even for water culture! Here's my archive......

Uncle Ben said:
Germinating Cannabis Seeds (for Bio Growers)

Your seedlings will be alot better off if you germinate directly in soil - less handling and mechanical disturbance means less chance of physical damage to the plant's taproot (and roothairs) and less food reserves used to position itself due to the natural hormonal influence called Gravitropism - that spells seedling VIGOR.

This is my foolproof method for Cannabis Seed Germination in soil:

First, if harvesting seeds from my own crosses, I air-dry newly harvested seeds for a couple of weeks, and then store them in the refrigerator with a little rice. Cold-treatment seems to increase viability and germination rates, especially with indica-dom strains. I almost always get a 100% germination rate with quality seedstock.

Soak the seeds in plain water for at least 12 hours prior to planting to hydrate them, which will speed up germination. In general, good seeds will sink, bad seeds will remain floating (they contain air, not an embryo). I first sterilize seeds in a bleach solution (1 Tbsp. bleach/1 gallon of water) for 1/2 hour to kill any fungus residing on the seedcoat. Dump the sanitizing solution and top off your glass with clean water, you do not need to rinse those seeds.

Sterilize enough *damp* fine soil with heat to germinate all of your seeds. You can do this by treating the damp soil to temps of (no more than) 200F for 20 mins in a conventional oven, or in a microwave oven on high for 2 minutes, while stirring a couple of times. Your goal is to get and hold the entire soil mix's temperature at 170F to 180F for about 20 minutes which can be monitored with a probe type thermometer. Let the mix cool thoroughly. This will insure that damp-off fungus spores have been killed in the soil mix. Make sure the soil mix is light and humusy (not real coarse). You can add a little sand or vermiculite to aid in drainage and weight. Stay away from perlite, it has a nasty habit of floating out of the mix (if you do indeed need to water later).

Buy some white 20oz styrofoam "drinking glasses", commonly called "Styro-Cups", and punch holes in the bottom (and side bottom) for drainage. I use a red-hot ice pick for this. These containers are 6 1/2" tall and will allow ample room for the taproot to grow before cotyledon emergence which will increase your seedling's vigor. The taproot (radicle) is already at least 4" long at the point of emergence - don't restrict it in order to maximize seedling growth rate. Styro-Cups can be found on the shelf displaying picnic items at your local grocery store.

Fill the pots almost to the top with your soil mix, water well to settle the mix, take a pencil and make a small hole about 1/4" to 1/2" deep, NO deeper, and drop *one* seed in. Cover the seed with *fine* soil, only enough to top up the hole, firm lightly with your finger, and lightly water until water runs freely thru the drain holes. Place in a warm spot around 80F/26C. Do NOT cover the cup with saran wrap or anything else. The seed has been hydrated from the soaking and will germinate soon. This container should not require further watering until the seedling is up and running.

During the first couple of days, mist the top soil surface lightly if need be, never allowing the top to crust over, but not to the point that the medium stays waterlogged which will invite pythium rot. "Less is more" at this point. Do NOT water this pot any more until the seedling is up, and only if it needs it at the point of emergence and do NOT mist the seedling once it is up as you're inviting damp-off disease if you do. Again, no need to cover with plastic wrap as the radicle (taproot) will grow at least 4" before the cotyledons emerge from the soil. IOW, even though you can't see it, the plant's root is seeking and finding moisture at the container's lower soil levels. I cannot emphasize this enough. The seedling will emerge anywhere from 2 to 10 days from the time you sow it.

That's all to it! With good care, your faves will be ready to transplant within 1 to 2 weeks, and will easily slip out of the "cup" with a solid rootball that will never know it's been disturbed if potted up gently and quickly. Move up to a final pot of 3 to 5 gallons to sex and finish.

Good luck,
Uncle Ben
 

indikat

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Folks, for the hundredth time, there is a reason why conventional horticulturalists, pros, DO NOT use a fuckin' paper towel to germinate their seeds, even for water culture! Here's my archive......
or even easier....soak jiffy pellet pop seed in pre drilled hole, put in your prop, place in dark check every day...works everytime.....fukin paper towels are for wiping your arse lmao
 

Herb Man

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My method only fails if the seed is a dud.

Put the seeds in a glass of water which is at room temperature water.

Put the glass into a dark cupboard on top of a heating mat.

Close the door of the cupboard.

Leave in the dark with the heating mat on.

Return around a day and a half later, place the sprouted seed, root down in a small pot of soil (root down) and cover with soil (1 cm deep) make sure the soil is not too loose.

Lightly water the soil (don't soak) then cover in cling film (the soil level in the pot should allow space for the seed to germinate and grow a bit before touching the cling film).

Place the pot back in the cupboard on top of the heating mat (which is still turned on) and leave.

Return a day and a half later, take of the cling film water and place your germinated seedling under your light of choice.

Simples.
 

Bigby

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Just thinking of starting a thread today to say how great Sannies germination rate is. I'll post it in here. I have put a total of over 30 (approx 34 - I can't remember exactly) of his fem seeds in to germinate now and have had two fail. I'm not a mathematician, maybe someone who is could offer the percentage. The last three five packs, a kolossus, a sugar punch, and a shackzilla were all 100%. One of the fails was a freebie.

Method I use is take a clean zip lock sandwich bag. Fold a kitchen towel into a parcel, and moisten it. Place the seed in the centre fold of the parcel then fold it over again. Place this parcel in the sandwich bag. Put this in a warm, dark place. Airing cupboards are perfect. Check after 48 hours. Put back in if the seed isn't cracked, or has just started to but has not taproot. Check again 24 hours later. The warmer the spot the quicker the tap root will develop after cracking, so maybe check after 12 hours if that is the case.
 

Bigby

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^ Looks stupid after Uncle Ben lol - tried and tested though, and I'm not changing. I am going back to read that post again though. :-)
 

Cobnobuler

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I agree with Bigby ( I usually do it seems) genetics do have a lot to do with it. Both Bigby and I have run Sannies gear and I too use the paper towel method with right near 100 % success. I simply put a wet towel in a cereal bowl and lay the seeds in, and fold the towel over them. But I then cover the bowl with a piece of plastic wrap. 2 days tops and their ready. EVERY TIME.
I like Uncle Bens post here too but for me I have enough problems later on so I stick with what I know works.
Germinating is the easy part, the headaches come later :)
 

Uncle Ben

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I agree with Bigby ( I usually do it seems) genetics do have a lot to do with it. Both Bigby and I have run Sannies gear and I too use the paper towel method with right near 100 % success. I simply put a wet towel in a cereal bowl and lay the seeds in, and fold the towel over them. But I then cover the bowl with a piece of plastic wrap. 2 days tops and their ready. EVERY TIME.
I like Uncle Bens post here too but for me I have enough problems later on so I stick with what I know works.
Germinating is the easy part, the headaches come later :)
1. You're making this complicated when it doesn't need to be,

2. You may have missed my points in paragraph one which is based on science.

If you have viable seeds and aren't getting close to 100% germ rate then something's wrong with the way you're doing your business.
 

Cobnobuler

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1. You're making this complicated when it doesn't need to be,
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Nah, nothing complicated about dropping them on a wet paper towel and letting them pop. If that isn't working, the seeds are too old or something else is wrong. Like I said, I've never had nothing but close 100% success rate
 

Bigby

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Although I get seriously good germination, I also get occasional plants which grow funny. Almost mutant. With properly deformed leaves at the start of their life. After reading Uncle Ben's post I can't help wondering whether some form of adulteration has occurred with me using the paper towel method, and this was to blame for the mutant growth. I've grown out a few of these freaky girls and they were often the best of the bunch (albeit low yielders). Maybe if I switched to the method described I might be able to start these freaks off right.
 
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