Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

jointed

jointed

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Thats what I thought. I'll do more research for myself I just thought I would run it by you to see what you felt about it.Thanks for your educated response....J
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Never tried this before, but I HAVE tried The Rev's LOS methods. Layers, spikes teas etc. Go to my profile and have a look at my results. I only have one album. Then decide if he is the kind of fella you would take seriously.

He is bit of an organic mad scientist, and I was reluctant to take him seriously myself at first. But the results I saw in grows using his methods speak for themselves. So I tried it. I won't grow any other way again thanks.

So call BS all you want, he is the one with a column in a few actual magazines lol...
 
Doer

Doer

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Just being my cynical self, but I have seen plenty of printed articles, some with my name on it. I am nothing, and itI is nothing to get article printed. It is only about column inches of print to fill the page around the advertizing.

Take it from me, having been a full modern adult for quite a while, But, I first noticed this in Surfer magazine, when I was 14. And then Photography, Airplanes, Motorcycles.... Mags are Advertizing period.

And no one called BS, see? This a canker on society I think. I call it the instant right-fight. I see it here everyday. There seems to be no neutral ground anymore for facts. People are taught that their own feeling are the most important. This is bad.

It leads to the consequence of everyone FEELS they are RIGHT and must FIGHT.

All that anyone said was, there are no facts. And then you come with the sophistry of defense when there is no attack.

You called him a mad scientist. You talk about seriously or not. You said his methods speak for themselves. I didn't see any method, only decent prose to hide this utter lack of any references.

Your methods work perhaps, and perhaps you did shoehorn in some of his ideas.

But, only controlled science has any meaning, to take us from superstition, myth and lore. What % of SML, is real? No way to know. What are the items in the unknown % of real, that make up the real, and which items do not. No way to know.

This is exactly why, Science was invented. Science is only one thing, a Method for Discovery and Verification that is ruthless about testing in double blind when necessary, to stamp out the Superstition, Myth and Lore on the Subject.

So, you can cheer yout champion. But, in Science we don't need that. Cheering? The last we saw that in Science was Cold Fusion.

So, find proven facts, in a ruthless, and cold way, ignoring all opinion. That is science. All else is just goofing around in your personal situation and getting paid by the word and column. inch of print.

Have you ever seen an article in ICMag, for instance, by Uncle Ben, here? You are not looking. And his articles are not like that. His are documented experiments. You can see what he is talking about, and you know. he paid the dues to find out.
 
thetrickstergod

thetrickstergod

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When weed is legal in Texas (and yes it will be and it will take years) what region will be our equivalent of northern Cali for large outdoor grows? Or has the drought fucked us forever and there will never be a "weed basket" here.
 
Doer

Doer

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thetrickstergod said:
When weed is legal in Texas (and yes it will be and it will take years) what region will be our equivalent of northern Cali for large outdoor grows? Or has the drought fucked us forever and there will never be a "weed basket" here.
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Just need water. And there is no forever in the weather.

Oh, BTW, it will be Texas frist before the Feds can go any farther. It was TX, NY, FL and CA that banned it first, and that led to Federal Laws.

It has to reverse the same way. FL and CA both have ballots coming up.

But, NY and TX>>>???? Not so soon.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Doer said:
Just being my cynical self, but I have seen plenty of printed articles, some with my name on it. I am nothing, and itI is nothing to get article printed. It is only about column inches of print to fill the page around the advertizing.

Take it from me, having been a full modern adult for quite a while, But, I first noticed this in Surfer magazine, when I was 14. And then Photography, Airplanes, Motorcycles.... Mags are Advertizing period.

And no one called BS, see? This a canker on society I think. I call it the instant right-fight. I see it here everyday. There seems to be no neutral ground anymore for facts. People are taught that their own feeling are the most important. This is bad.

It leads to the consequence of everyone FEELS they are RIGHT and must FIGHT.

All that anyone said was, there are no facts. And then you come with the sophistry of defense when there is no attack.

You called him a mad scientist. You talk about seriously or not. You said his methods speak for themselves. I didn't see any method, only decent prose to hide this utter lack of any references.

Your methods work perhaps, and perhaps you did shoehorn in some of his ideas.

But, only controlled science has any meaning, to take us from superstition, myth and lore. What % of SML, is real? No way to know. What are the items in the unknown % of real, that make up the real, and which items do not. No way to know.

This is exactly why, Science was invented. Science is only one thing, a Method for Discovery and Verification that is ruthless about testing in double blind when necessary, to stamp out the Superstition, Myth and Lore on the Subject.

So, you can cheer yout champion. But, in Science we don't need that. Cheering? The last we saw that in Science was Cold Fusion.

So, find proven facts, in a ruthless, and cold way, ignoring all opinion. That is science. All else is just goofing around in your personal situation and getting paid by the word and column. inch of print.

Have you ever seen an article in ICMag, for instance, by Uncle Ben, here? You are not looking. And his articles are not like that. His are documented experiments. You can see what he is talking about, and you know. he paid the dues to find out.
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You have a good head on your shoulders.

ICMag - got banned there for stepping on one of Gypsy's tools, Rezdog. Like many he couldn't grow his way out of paper bag, came up with Diesel, all of a sudden became another super duper pollen chucker, and then paired with Gypsy to sell his crap. Cannabis forums like that are all politics. Don't get me wrong, Gypsy and I used to converse daily in the old days, he even gifted me free stuff like Zamal which he personally sought. Then there was BOG and the list goes on and on.
 
jointed

jointed

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  • http://imgur.com/a/FsViG#26

    Hiya Uncle Ben, Just thought I would post my latest update pics to show ya that I don't subscribe to all the sillyness. The soil I use is just MG organic choice with the bag of perlite added, nothing else. The bottle is how I water to help prevent compaction. I don't bother checking ph or use anything cannabis specific. As a matter of fact I haven't even fed them anything extra yet and their growin like weeds. Once I do start its only going to be every 2 weeks at 1/4 stength. Nothin fancy in my coop, very simple and easy to replicate. I will be using Dyna Grow foliage pro 9-3-6 to flower though as I feel Mg 24-8-16 is lacking a bit....Enjoy the pics....J

    PS Thankyou for all you do, I"ve learned alot by reading your threads....J

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Majestic Pagent

Majestic Pagent

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Hi Ub and all

Firstly, thanks to all regular contributors to this thread - along with the Mel Franks book it has been of great help in persuading me to (mostly) abandon cannabis specific products and gain some understanding of basic plant biology.

I have a question about organics:

From what you (Ub) have written, I understand an organic system to be one where a comprehensive soil mix is used and the microorganisms within it nurtured to release nutrients from the substances within the mix. In the past I have always used mineral based fertilizers, but am now attempting to move to the organic system. I am using the jacks magic compost, and am amending it with vermiculite and alfalfa pellets. I have acquired a Miracle Gro soluble feed Npk 24-3.5-13.3 (I have included an image of the label).

Is this product suitable for use in an organic system, or will it interfere with the processes that I am trying to promote?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated


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Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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jointed said:

  • http://imgur.com/a/FsViG#26

    Hiya Uncle Ben, Just thought I would post my latest update pics to show ya that I don't subscribe to all the sillyness. The soil I use is just MG organic choice with the bag of perlite added, nothing else. The bottle is how I water to help prevent compaction. I don't bother checking ph or use anything cannabis specific. As a matter of fact I haven't even fed them anything extra yet and their growin like weeds. Once I do start its only going to be every 2 weeks at 1/4 stength. Nothin fancy in my coop, very simple and easy to replicate. I will be using Dyna Grow foliage pro 9-3-6 to flower though as I feel Mg 24-8-16 is lacking a bit....Enjoy the pics....J

    PS Thankyou for all you do, I"ve learned alot by reading your threads....J

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Good luck with that! Plants look good.

papajohn said:
ub whats your recommended rate on the ammonium sulfate/iron sulfate?
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Depends. One size does not fit all.

Majestic Pagent said:
Hi Ub and all

Firstly, thanks to all regular contributors to this thread - along with the Mel Franks book it has been of great help in persuading me to (mostly) abandon cannabis specific products and gain some understanding of basic plant biology.

I have a question about organics:

From what you (Ub) have written, I understand an organic system to be one where a comprehensive soil mix is used and the microorganisms within it nurtured to release nutrients from the substances within the mix. In the past I have always used mineral based fertilizers, but am now attempting to move to the organic system. I am using the jacks magic compost, and am amending it with vermiculite and alfalfa pellets. I have acquired a Miracle Gro soluble feed Npk 24-3.5-13.3 (I have included an image of the label).

Is this product suitable for use in an organic system, or will it interfere with the processes that I am trying to promote?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated


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You're making this too complex. Use your organics like an organic potting soil, adding meals like blood and bone or whatever and supplement with chemicals. If indeed you do have microbes converting this and that, the addition of synthetics won't hurt anything.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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This is what I've been up to, hope it works out. An excellent (greenhouse) grower at the Riddle site just received some of the beans I sent him. This is old school and the post in his journal follows.

Whew, Cruz got 'em, so we agreed that I give some history of some history. :) Here's the genetics I sent and the background, starting with what I consider my most dearest genetics and what could be considered the most rare today, aka "old school" genetics.

C99 F2's (F1 source - Heaven's Stairway) - Progeny of F1 females I crossed with a great male from the original C99 Bros. Grimm stock. Should be about as close to a C99 original as you can get being that C99 was cubed quite a few times. For all practical purposes stable. I got one wacked out male once but that is an exception. For example I grew out 4 C99 ladies during one garden and they all looked like twins, clones. Every photo of a C99 I viewed looked identical and the taste and smoke reports were too.

Bros. Grimm In-Out Mix (Source - Heaven's Stairway) - Not quite sure why they named them I/O as Sly explained that they were genetics that got mixed up on the sorting table. These are a mix of what Sly and Soul were working on (crossing and cubing). My Topping to 4 main colas is one of them. Some of the predessors to C99 (Princess) are in there.

C99XDalat - Mailed original C99 pollen to a friend. He personally went to Dalat and brought back the Dalat Vietnamese. He was a helicopter pilot during the Vietnam war. Shared the seeds with quite a few growers. I tried our cross and it had none of the C99 characteristics. No matter how many times I questioned the cross he said it was a bonafide C99XDalat cross. I have not given it the chance it deserves. What I wanted was the features of C99 - early harvest, good stem girth, etc. What I got with only one trial was a pure sativa.

Dalat Vietnamese - These are originals from the Dalat region.

Romberry X Peak19 - Vic High's "famous" original Romberry crossed with Sag's original Peak 19. Romberry was quite popular back in the 90's, had Blueberry in the background. OG member and an email buddy of mine (Marksurfs) gave me his F1 - F3 crosses. Said it was some of the most potent bud he's smoked. Never grew it out because of time and space constraints.

Only Heaven's Stairway was allowed to sell Bros. Grimm stock.

I think Cruz is gonna be a busy man. Also sent him a new hybrid tomato that should be fantastic - BHN 589, bred for flavor. It's sister the BHN 602 aka "Rodeo" is my holy grail. Regarding both culture and flavor, it is the best I've ever grown in 45 years of gardening.

Oh, and some housekeeping notes - those beans should have damn close to 100% germination rates, especially the crosses. Even though many are from the late 90's, they have been kept under cold and dry conditions.

Happy Gardening,
Uncle Ben
 
DonPetro

DonPetro

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Wow some of those crosses sound great. That C99×Dalat should show some variance in the F2 generation. And that RB×P19 sounds like a killer. I got some Black Forrest([3 Hawaiian Sativas×AK47]xVietnam Black) but i don't have the time or space for a 16 week flowering time after 75 days of veg. Some day haha.
 
youknowthekid!

youknowthekid!

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You know Uncle Ben, behind all the sarcasm and suggestive or condescending comments you've got a heart of gold buddy! Really appreciate all the invaluable insight you've spewed across like 200hrs of reading hahahaha!

Anyway, I'm going to grow very close to your standards with some soil amendments of my own that you may not use (dolomite, azomite, castings, perlite, some humic, and maybe blood/bone).
When it comes to the nutes I'm going to keep towards your ratios (2-1-2, 3-1-2, 2-1-1, depending on needs), and make sure they're getting the micros. HOWEVER, I'm still debating using the H&G stims Top Booster and Top Shooter, as their schedule recommends just because I've seen great results with these products in hydro.

Question- Do you think these stims will be a total waste in soil? In case you don't know Top Booster is said to cause a hormonal response mid-flowering that causes the plant to go into a sort of second flowering period, thereby greatly increasing flower production. Top shooter is used the last 3-4 weeks to force the plant to use up all of its stored energy to produce large amounts of resin.

These would be the only stims I'd use, upon your permission your highness :D
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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"It's said to cause..." uh? Are there any test results available done by a non-partisan, independent lab, or you just another sucker bet for an ad?

With names like that, it's gotta be good.

Hope the sarcasm helps. :)
 
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