Serious germination and seedling issues.

khm916 said:

ocean forest is hot dont use on seedlings

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this is a known issue when using FFOF, but i used it on my germed seeds and all 3 had no problem and no burn from the soil. if anything people usually use 2/3 FFOF and 1/3 HF, or perilite, or FF warrior soil, the combo is a lot less harsh on sensitive plants.

victhaog said:

this is a known issue when using FFOF, but i used it on my germed seeds and all 3 had no problem and no burn from the soil. if anything people usually use 2/3 FFOF and 1/3 HF, or perilite, or FF warrior soil, the combo is a lot less harsh on sensitive plants.

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When is a plant still considered a seedling? Could FFOF being 'too hot' be the reason why my germinated seeds wont even sprout?

Once again, I epically failed with THREE new seeds. They germinated perfectly fine and the tap root was actually quite long. But...couple days later i dug them up and there is the wrinkled tap root. Is the FFOF too fertile for it? Is it getting nute burn that quick?

Camtheman289 said:

Once again, I epically failed with THREE new seeds. They germinated perfectly fine and the tap root was actually quite long. But...couple days later i dug them up and there is the wrinkled tap root. Is the FFOF too fertile for it? Is it getting nute burn that quick?

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Sorry to hear that man. Here are pictures of 3 seedlings, 6 days old today after I put them straight into FFOF and water with a ph balance of 6.0. I'm 7 for 7 so far

bajafox said:

Sorry to hear that man. Here are pictures of 3 seedlings, 6 days old today after I put them straight into FFOF and water with a ph balance of 6.0. I'm 7 for 7 so far

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Thanks for the response baja. Questions: Do you pre water your soil? How deep do you put them? Do you put them straight under light after you put them in soil? Thanks for your help mate. One love.

Here it is step by step, literally:

- I fill up my pot to desired height
- Poor abut qtr cup of 6.0 ph balanced water
- Poke a hole in the middle about nail deep
- Drop my 'ungermed' seed, dry, straight from the package
- Use a spray bottle to lightly water it
- Carefully cover it with FFOF
- Use the spray bottle to spray over the seed and let the water seep in slowly
- Wait 3 days

I don't think it's taken longer than 4 days for them to crack soil so far, I hope my luck stays. Good luck.

"baja's idiot guide to growing weed" haha thanks brother. You only water it that ONE time?!

Yup, I put humidity dome over it, been working like a charm. I hope I didn't jinx myself, lol, just trying to help someone out. I was having terrible luck with the paper towel method and the drop it in water till it sinks method. Luckily they were all bagseed, now I'm using seeds from Attitude, I started those 3 a few days ago. Good luck man, I hope it works out for you, nothing is more frustrating than waiting for these fuckers to crack soil, hahaha

Hahahaha trust me I know man. 18-6 after you put the seed in soil?

Yes, straight into 18/6 after soil. I should have 2 by tomorrow which I started 3 days ago the same way. Hopefully I'll be 9 for 9 since I started doing it this way, got my fingers crossed.

Any luck yet?

i would wait until the seedling tail is about 1" long.

So far, i've exhausted all "Germination" methods. The towel method, the leave in water for 24 hours, then put in towel. and the more than successful plant the ungerm'd seed into soil, water, and watch.

I must say, i've had success with all methods.. There is a certain madness to it though..

For the "Towel" method;
-Grab your seeds, throw them on a folded (3-4 times) paper towel. Saturate the shit out of the paper towel, and put the towel filled with seeds in a ziplock-bag (or a small Tupperware container) and put just a fraction of water in it. Just enough to keep it from dehydrating. I've found out wit this method, is that you NEED sterile fingers, and work environment to germ successfully. If not your seeds may turn to a weird 'goo' and thus be unable to grow. When you have your seeds-wrapped in paper towel, and properly watered.. STORE in a somewhat cool DARK place. Like inside a dark closet, or in your dresser drawer. Leave them in there for about 3-4 days, and you WILL have successfully germinated your seeds.

Thats my favorite way of germinating my seeds. Hope this helps ya.

Ok here it is one more time but with pictures I started an Acapulco Gold and Sharksbreath from Attitude exactly 5 days ago. This puts me at 9 for 9 using this method

Things I use:
- PureBlend Pro "Vegetative formula" I used half the required strength for seedlings
- Tap water balanced to 6.0 (I used regular tap water on 2 freebie seeds and it worked also)



Step #1: Get a pot/cup
Step #2: Grab some Foxfarm Ocean Forest and fill it to desired height
Step #3: Water the soil and let it drain
Step #4: Label your cubs
Step #5: Poke hole in the middle of the soil about nail length
Step #6: Drop in seed (make sure to drop it in the correctly labeled cup/pot)
Step #7: Using a spray bottle spray the seed
Step #7: Lightly cover with FFOF
Step #8: Using a spray bottle spray over the soil until the water starts to seep in, I keep spraying it until I think it's reached the seed
Step #9: Put a dome over it for humidity
Step #10: Put it in your veg, seedling area
Step #11: Smoke and wait

Thanks for that baja! I was going to go into detail like you have, along the same lines. But you took the pictures and words right outta my mouth! Thanks for the mini-tutorial on how to correctly plant a seed bro!

6string

No problem, just trying to help out whoever I can

Baja! Great news man. Well, I tried my own methond very similar to yours. I took a bowl (like a cereal bowl) put a wet paper towel at the bottom, soaked some FFOF, put that ontop, put the seed in the soil and barely covered it, put it on my kitchen window-sill and sure enough, 3 days later it's sproutin its little head. I just put it outside actually I'll let you know if it survives in the cup I just put it in. Thanks so much for your help baha +rep

Ocean Forest has pre-charged nutrients and will burn the roots off of new seedlings. Look for a mix that says it is for seedlings. Also be careful with the watering and keep it moist but not soaked. Your planting depth should be fine. Yes, you have to be careful and not break the radical (root tip) off when handling the sprouted seed. Don't use pre charged soil media for seed germination or transplanting newly rooted clones. Just because a soil mix has a big following it does not mean it is for every use. Any well drained soil mix with good aeration and cation exchange capacity (ability to transfer nutrients from media to roots) will grow good plants>

pointswest said:

Ocean Forest has pre-charged nutrients and will burn the roots off of new seedlings.

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Then please explain my 100% success rate so far (9 for 9) using water and FFOF. I have a veg tent full of different strains from Attitude all started directly in FFOF and thriving. I spent nearly $300 in seeds (total of 18 ) and there is no way I would keep using this method if I thought your statement was true, I'd be wasting money.

Camtheman289 said:

Baja! Great news man. Well, I tried my own methond very similar to yours. I took a bowl (like a cereal bowl) put a wet paper towel at the bottom, soaked some FFOF, put that ontop, put the seed in the soil and barely covered it, put it on my kitchen window-sill and sure enough, 3 days later it's sproutin its little head. I just put it outside actually I'll let you know if it survives in the cup I just put it in. Thanks so much for your help baha +rep

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That's great man, trial and error...once you find a method that works, stick to it and perfect it. Good luck