Sparky's 60 Plants in a 7x7 Room Grow

Just a heads up, but if your air pumps sit on the ground (at water level) it is unlikely, however still possible that water could get into them and burn em up. Everything else looks great. I am a Fuct head as well. How many hours a week do you spend running your grow?

Goldowitz said:

Just a heads up, but if your air pumps sit on the ground (at water level) it is unlikely, however still possible that water could get into them and burn em up. Everything else looks great. I am a Fuct head as well. How many hours a week do you spend running your grow?

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If for some reason I get water in the air pumps I have way bigger problems than that anyways that was the only place that just seemed to work at the time. Since it is a new set up I am sure that I will be making improvements before the new run starts.

Most people will not do the work or think that the yields suffer from not having trees but for me growing like that is the only way I know how. My name is Sparky and I am a Fuct Head!

I could spend 5 mins a day if that was all I wanted to but you know how it is you just end up standing there looking at them. On nights where I change out tanks and trim branches it will run me 4 hours or so.

TheLastWood said:

Hell yeah, that should be a packed full room. Subd.

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Yes it will be I just hope I am not stepping on it. This is a classic hero or zero situation.

looking good sparka. I usually hang my air pumps. helps with the noise and the being above water thing. Is the higromite heavier than the hydroton?

supergrow357 said:

looking good sparka. I usually hang my air pumps. helps with the noise and the being above water thing. Is the higromite heavier than the hydroton?

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Thanks SG I guess I should have hung them I just would have had 400 ft of air hose instead of the 200 ft it took I just had no room to play with. You know how it is you get building a new room and sooner or later you just want to get going which cost me dearly as it was ( long story) Higromite Link here is lighter I think and has a totally different way of acting than Hydroton. It snaps crackles and pops when it gets wet. I like it so far.

Four hours a week is all? Damn, I takes me 25 hours a week to run my 4'x4' perpetual SOG, seperate mother room and maintain equipment. Maybe I could hire one of those efficiency consultants or something.

Goldowitz said:

Four hours a week is all? Damn, I takes me 25 hours a week to run my 4'x4' perpetual SOG, seperate mother room and maintain equipment. Maybe I could hire one of those efficiency consultants or something.

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4 hours a week when on the week I am not cloning, triming and changing nutes which pushes it up to 10 hours a week. I do consulting work

sparkafire said:

4 hours a week when on the week I am not cloning, triming and changing nutes which pushes it up to 10 hours a week. I do consulting work

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dang I am glad I use my setup then. Takes me about 15-20 min a day then on rez change day takes about 10 hours due to the fact I have revers osmosis and a 115 gallon rez that I drain fill up again to flush ( every week ) then drain and fill again for nutes after I wash it out. You guys make me feel a lot better.. lol

My420 said:

dang I am glad I use my setup then. Takes me about 15-20 min a day then on rez change day takes about 10 hours due to the fact I have revers osmosis and a 115 gallon rez that I drain fill up again to flush ( every week ) then drain and fill again for nutes after I wash it out. You guys make me feel a lot better.. lol

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Are we talking a true have to be there or else time or I get mezmerized by my plants and they wont let me leave time? If its true time I will have an hour a week and make it 2hrs a week if I have a do a 3- 35 gal rez change out and 3 hrs if I have all the other stuff as well.

sparkafire said:

Are we talking a true have to be there or else time or I get mezmerized by my plants and they wont let me leave time? If its true time I will have an hour a week and make it 2hrs a week if I have a do a 3- 35 gal rez change out and 3 hrs if I have all the other stuff as well.

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Not really a have to be there because it takes hours to fill the rez. Most of it is me playing a game while waiting for the rez to fill. Maybe about 2 hours or so of actual work on rez change day I am guessing from just washing both of my rez's and adding nutes checking PH and PPM's.

My420 said:

Not really a have to be there because it takes hours to fill the rez. Most of it is me playing a game while waiting for the rez to fill. Maybe about 2 hours or so of actual work on rez change day I am guessing from just washing both of my rez's and adding nutes checking PH and PPM's.

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You know whats funny is that I never have washed my tanks or equipment during a grow now when I change rotations I will but its just a rub down not a sterilization. I am sure one day it will bite me but so far I have been STD free. Why do you use RO?

sparkafire said:

You know whats funny is that I never have washed my tanks or equipment during a grow now when I change rotations I will but its just a rub down not a sterilization. I am sure one day it will bite me but so far I have been STD free. Why do you use RO?

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RO water cleans out all the chlorine and all the BS calcium ( that white stuff in water ) that can build up real fast in your medium. But I have to use Cal/Mag when using it because it takes it all out of the water. Makes the PH more consistant when adding nutes and a few other things I can not remember because I just smoked and I am stoned lol give me a while I will remember what other reasons their are. As far as the tanks I just take a sponge and clean it like a plate wiping off the residue basically just trying to get any extra left overs out before starting a new watering cycle.

My420 said:

RO water cleans out all the chlorine and all the BS calcium ( that white stuff in water ) that can build up real fast in your medium. But I have to use Cal/Mag when using it because it takes it all out of the water. Makes the PH more consistant when adding nutes and a few other things I can not remember because I just smoked and I am stoned lol give me a while I will remember what other reasons their are. As far as the tanks I just take a sponge and clean it like a plate wiping off the residue basically just trying to get any extra left overs out before starting a new watering cycle.

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I don't think taking out the calcium is why ppl use ro lol, considering you have to add it back in

However, indirectly, you may be trying to remove calcium for its ph uppging affect, but most likely for other ph upping agents, since you will indeed add the calcium back in.

So ro is great if you have soft water, very hard water (high ppms), have a high ph (needing more than 3 ml ph buffering sloution per gal). In a 1000 ppm solution you can deliver more usable nutrients starting at a ppm of 0 compared to my tap of 290ppm.

I use tap anyways

TheLastWood said:

I don't think taking out the calcium is why ppl use ro lol, considering you have to add it back in

However, indirectly, you may be trying to remove calcium for its ph uppging affect, but most likely for other ph upping agents, since you will indeed add the calcium back in.

So ro is great if you have soft water, very hard water (high ppms), have a high ph (needing more than 3 ml ph buffering sloution per gal). In a 1000 ppm solution you can deliver more usable nutrients starting at a ppm of 0 compared to my tap of 290ppm.

I use tap anyways

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Sorry I am not explaining myself correctly and fully with everything in detail so here that is. Sorry ADD kicked in and kinda zoned out without finishing. It cleans out WAY more then calcium it is to also make sure that you do not have any containments in your water that can naturally get into drinking water that can harm plant growth or production such as:

Naturally Occurring:
microorganisms (wildlife and soils),
radionuclide's (underlying rock),
nitrates and nitrites (nitrogen compounds in the soil),
heavy metals (underground rocks containing arsenic, cadmium, chromium, lead, and selenium),
fluoride.

Human Activities:
bacteria and nitrates (human and animal wastes—septic tanks and large farms),
heavy metals (mining construction, older fruit orchards),
fertilizers and pesticides (used by you and others (anywhere
crops or lawns are maintained)),
industrial products and wastes (local factories, industrial plants, gas stations, dry cleaners, leaking underground storage tanks, landfills, and
waste dumps),
household wastes (cleaning solvents, used motor oil, paint, paint thinner),
lead and copper (household plumbing materials),
water treatment chemicals (wastewater treatment plants)

Hope that clears it up for you.

RO is for the people who want to correct the little things. Its not always a straight pitch. Its mostly a curve. So do everything you can to make the guess work gone.

sparkafire said:

You know whats funny is that I never have washed my tanks or equipment during a grow now when I change rotations I will but its just a rub down not a sterilization. I am sure one day it will bite me but so far I have been STD free. Why do you use RO?

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Ok, this is why that time sounded short to me. I drain all of my tanks once a month, sterilize, scrub and wash out everything. Reservoirs , trays, pumps, etc. I also do a full res change every other week. I also use RO water and it takes 30 min. to get five gallons. I need 70 total.

Since my grow is perpetual, I figured my maintenance schedule might as well be also. Every week I drain a res and clean a quarter of my equipment. While waiting for RO water I harvest 1/8th of my girls, add the same amount of rooted clones back in, trim all 58 SOG plants, rearrange all plants (tall plants in the back, small plants in the middle) take new clones, trim the dry bud in my drying box and add in the freshly harvested plants. Every week. It never ends.

Goldowitz said:

Ok, this is why that time sounded short to me. I drain all of my tanks once a month, sterilize, scrub and wash out everything. Reservoirs , trays, pumps, etc. I also do a full res change every other week. I also use RO water and it takes 30 min. to get five gallons. I need 70 total.

Since my grow is perpetual, I figured my maintenance schedule might as well be also. Every week I drain a res and clean a quarter of my equipment. While waiting for RO water I harvest 1/8th of my girls, add the same amount of rooted clones back in, trim all 58 SOG plants, rearrange all plants (tall plants in the back, small plants in the middle) take new clones, trim the dry bud in my drying box and add in the freshly harvested plants. Every week. It never ends.

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You have a handful there!! I will be running perpetual after this so my time spent will explode every 3 weeks doing the do just like you

Goldowitz said:

Ok, this is why that time sounded short to me. I drain all of my tanks once a month, sterilize, scrub and wash out everything. Reservoirs , trays, pumps, etc. I also do a full res change every other week. I also use RO water and it takes 30 min. to get five gallons. I need 70 total.

Since my grow is perpetual, I figured my maintenance schedule might as well be also. Every week I drain a res and clean a quarter of my equipment. While waiting for RO water I harvest 1/8th of my girls, add the same amount of rooted clones back in, trim all 58 SOG plants, rearrange all plants (tall plants in the back, small plants in the middle) take new clones, trim the dry bud in my drying box and add in the freshly harvested plants. Every week. It never ends.

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I clean and drain rez every week and also give them a flush of h2o2 and clearex every rez change.

So the weekly update on the 7x7 60 plant room. I took pics tonight and I have to tell you in a one week time frame the plants just explode with the Co2 in the room. I have never grown with it so the results are stunning to me anyways. I wanted to show you a few of the plant characteristics and what some of the plants are doing.

#1 Here are some last week to this week shots.
#2 One of the things that I noticed was some of the leave sizes. This bad boy is 7 in and would be 12 in if you included the stem.
#3 I wanted to show how the nodes have started to already come in closer together and its only been a week in flower.
#4 Just wanted to show how I topped them using Uncle Bens topping Technique. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html
#5 This is a from the floor view, one I think I will become very used to because this room is going to be full!

Over all I am pleased with the grow so far but I can tell that this is going to be a chore to keep them trained properly.

My420 said:

I clean and drain rez every week and also give them a flush of h2o2 and clearex every rez change.

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Hey man why do you use clearex? How often do you use H202 during the regular cycle?