You guys think this would outlight a DE 1000w Fixture?

Airwalker16 · May 25, 2020

sf_frankie said:
I ordered something similar from another manufacturer on Alibaba. They will be here tomorrow according to FedEx. Mine are less powerful at 720w each. First thing I’m doing is hooking up to a killawatt meter. The company I got mine from has them from 660w-1200w (claimed wall watts not that LED equivalent BS).

Shipping was around $120 per light. They have 8 bars each. I’m hoping to light up 5’x8’ space but can shrink or have room to expand depending on the light.

They claim to use top bin Samsung lm301h/b and osram reds. The efficiency is around 2.9 and the par map shows over 500 at all corners of a 5x5 IIRC. I’m not sure I believe any of it but for only around $1000 shipped, I was willing to risk it. I either get a piece of crap or a decent light I can use for the next year or two. I don’t expect it to last much longer and I don’t care if it does. I figure there’s gonna be some crazy new tech available that I’ll want to use by then.

If it’s crap my buddy has some HPS lights he’s not using and I’ll use these to veg or some shit.

From what I’ve seen, it looks like these Alibaba bars are being branded and sold for 2 or 3x more on grow store sites. I’m aiming to cut out the middle man and save some cash.

That light will last you 10 years

rob333 · May 25, 2020

Airwalker16 said:
That light will last you 10 years

whats the life of a qb u reckon ? i have been told 5+ years

sf_frankie · May 25, 2020

Airwalker16 said:
That light will last you 10 years

That’s reassuring and would be awesome if true. The part I’m most worried about is the driver. It’s not a Meanwell. It’s a proprietary driver from the manufacturer but the alibaba rep said it was made by Sosen. Drivers are easy enough to replace if those fail.

Hopefully they show up on time tomorrow. Super anxious to check them out.

rob333 · May 25, 2020

sf_frankie said:
That’s reassuring and would be awesome if true. The part I’m most worried about is the driver. It’s not a Meanwell. It’s a proprietary driver from the manufacturer but the alibaba rep said it was made by Sosen. Drivers are easy enough to replace if those fail.

Hopefully they show up on time tomorrow. Super anxious to check them out.

dont get to excited anything from alibaba is hit and miss they show and say one thing and what u get is something completly diff not only that few my mates have had shit clap out on em like 3-4 months in

sf_frankie · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
whats the life of a qb u reckon ? i have been told 5+ years

A qb is the same as my lights just arranged differently so if Airwalker says mine will last 10 years then the qb should be similar

rob333 · May 25, 2020

sf_frankie said:
That’s reassuring and would be awesome if true. The part I’m most worried about is the driver. It’s not a Meanwell. It’s a proprietary driver from the manufacturer but the alibaba rep said it was made by Sosen. Drivers are easy enough to replace if those fail.

Hopefully they show up on time tomorrow. Super anxious to check them out.

last led light my mate got was a 2001 vipar 3 w that had been built over with a few extra led strips

sf_frankie · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
dont get to excited anything from alibaba is hit and miss they show and say one thing and what u get is something completly diff not only that few my mates have had shit clap out on em like 3-4 months in

I was well aware of the risk when I made the order. Worst case scenario I have some HPS on standby.

rob333 · May 25, 2020

sf_frankie said:
I was well aware of the risk when I made the order. Worst case scenario I have some HPS on standby.

i do hope it all works out for ya but most the time its some little Mexican thats got the light on a cheap and is selling it

rob333 · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
i do hope it all works out for ya but most the time its some little Mexican thats got the light on a cheap and is selling it

prob been used as a dinner table before it got to u hahaha

sf_frankie · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
i do hope it all works out for ya but most the time its some little Mexican thats got the light on a cheap and is selling it

I honestly am only really expecting a year out of these things. Any more than that would be great. Thanks to Covid my “fun” money isn’t being spent on the usual stuff so I was willing to take the $1000 gamble on these bars.

a mongo frog · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
most the time its some little Mexican thats got the light on a cheap and is selling it

How tall is this guy?

Barristan Whitebeard · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
whats the life of a qb u reckon ? i have been told 5+ years

Depends on the LEDs used and how hard they are driven and if there is adequate thermal management.

I think Cutter advertises a 5 year warranty on some of their kits.

Your newer board uses Nichia Optisolis diodes and Cree photo reds right?

Do you know what diodes are used in the first boards you bought?

Airwalker16 · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
dont get to excited anything from alibaba is hit and miss they show and say one thing and what u get is something completly diff not only that few my mates have had shit clap out on em like 3-4 months in

You've obviously never worked with good distributors from alibaba then. When I had pin heatsinks made, I had THREE separate profiles, differing widths, heights and thicknesses. They sent me a blueprint to confirm before milling and when I got them, they were immaculately packed and absolutely perfectly made and anodized. Couldn't have been happier and saved HUNDREDS.

sf_frankie · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
i do hope it all works out for ya but most the time its some little Mexican thats got the light on a cheap and is selling it

I honestly am only really expecting a year out of these things. Any more than that would be great. Thanks to Covid my “fun” money isn’t being spent on the usual stuff so I was willing to take the $1000 gamble on these bars.

if they suck I’ll use the parts to buld

Airwalker16 said:
You've obviously never worked with good distributors from alibaba then. When I had pin heatsinks made, I had THREE separate profiles, differing widths, heights and thicknesses. They sent me a blueprint to confirm before milling and when I got them, they were immaculately packed and absolutely perfectly made and anodized. Couldn't have been happier and saved HUNDREDS.

Your posts are making me excited for my lights. I talked to a ton of distributors before setting on these so I didn’t go in blind.

If these end up being as good as advertised then they are pretty much the same price and building your own even with shipping.

Airwalker16 · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
whats the life of a qb u reckon ? i have been told 5+ years

Really depends on heat management throughout its life and current being used. But they say 50,000 or so hours before you lose only 10% of brightness output. So.... That's OVER 10YEARS if you had them on for 12hrs a day, EVERYDAY.

hybridway2 · May 25, 2020

Airwalker16 said:
Really depends on heat management throughout its life and current being used. But they say 50,000 or so hours before you lose only 10% of brightness output. So.... That's OVER 10YEARS if you had them on for 12hrs a day, EVERYDAY.

Alibaba L/90 lights? Really? I do not believe the claim as i saw recently on another skimpy bar light. No B ratings right? They are Not obligated to tell you that like say a Samsung made light from HLG is because it is made by Samsung.
Just because you bought the right size metal off Alibaba does not justify stating an Alibaba light is what it's claimed to be.
No offense bud.
I call BS.

rob333 · May 25, 2020

hybridway2 said:
Alibaba L/90 lights? Really? I do not believe the claim as i saw recently on another skimpy bar light. No B ratings right? They are Not obligated to tell you that like say a Samsung made light from HLG is because it is made by Samsung.
Just because you bought the right size metal off Alibaba does not justify stating an Alibaba light is what it's claimed to be.
No offense bud.
I call BS.

you said it better then my mexican comment

rob333 · May 25, 2020

Barristan Whitebeard said:
Depends on the LEDs used and how hard they are driven and if there is adequate thermal management.

I think Cutter advertises a 5 year warranty on some of their kits.

Your newer board uses Nichia Optisolis diodes and Cree photo reds right?

Do you know what diodes are used in the first boards you bought?

the sols i be leave have the cri i think

hybridway2 · May 25, 2020

rob333 said:
you said it better then my mexican comment

Depends if you're a MexiCan or a MexiCan't i guess. But i get your drift.

rob333 · May 25, 2020

sf_frankie said:
I honestly am only really expecting a year out of these things. Any more than that would be great. Thanks to Covid my “fun” money isn’t being spent on the usual stuff so I was willing to take the $1000 gamble on these bars.

if they suck I’ll use the parts to buld

Your posts are making me excited for my lights. I talked to a ton of distributors before setting on these so I didn’t go in blind.

If these end up being as good as advertised then they are pretty much the same price and building your own even with shipping.

1000$ a little to take a pun on bro i cam in around 1100 on all three of mine which is around 420 true watts and i would say its killing a 1000w hps and a little more id say due to a few factors heat not being a issue also getting the lights bullshit close but check my thread out to were u would wanna be that light of urs would be killing my 2 150's and the ssk276 if it is what they say it is

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