rootsorganic
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Does anyone knw the shelf life of the saferbrand??I have some frm last year still left.
Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics
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veggiegardener
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I've kept opened bottles for two years. It was still effective.
Last year, the Fiery Skipper butterflies showed up in May in HUGE numbers.
Oddly, this year, I've yet to see one.
I generally don't spray Bt much until I see them.(One application so far, this season.)
Last year, the Fiery Skipper butterflies showed up in May in HUGE numbers.
Oddly, this year, I've yet to see one.
I generally don't spray Bt much until I see them.(One application so far, this season.)
rootsorganic
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Veggie im in the same area as you.Im already dealing with caterpillars,this is the earliest iv'e ever had them.To top it off im now dealing with grasshoppers.It seems im only gettin the pillars on my plants from seed nothing on the clones.
veggiegardener
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Since I haven't any plants in bud, I haven't looked for early caterpillar damage(webbing of leaf surfaces). I'll take a hard look in the morning. I think it's time for another foliar spray, as well.
I've noticed over the years that the butterflies sometimes show a preference for certain strains. Herijuana comes to mind.
ChemoBoy
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Veggiegardener, I saw a few 1/2 cm worms maybe a month ago and removed them with extreme prejudice. Since then, I've seen occasional damage but VERY light, and no particular attention from butterflies. Would you recommend I go ahead and start with the BT or just keep an eye on it? Some growers have recommended spraying every 3 weeks through veg, but I've got months left.
veggiegardener
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If you haven't applied Bt yet, it is time.
I sprayed the first time about three weeks ago, just because.
ChemoBoy
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Thanks. Operation BT commences tomorrow.
veggiegardener
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I'm not familiar with it.
Read labels. Some Bt products are for mosquitos and are ineffective on caterpillars.
kamonra
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hey guys .. does lady bugs pose danger to your plants ... i read that they may help eat some of the pest .. is it true .. beacuse i put a fat lady bug on my plant an it seemed to love it she crawl all over the plant i mean it crawl on every inch of the plant as if it was searching for the critters .. or was it looking for the best spot to munch down on ????
ChemoBoy
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No. They don't eat plant matter. Ladybugs will eat the aphids that are there and then fly away. It's best to put the out in the evening just before dark (like when it's VERY close to dark). First mist the plants and the soil lightly, then put the ladybugs out at the base of the plant on the soil. They'll climb the plant and huddle down for the night. Then the next day they'll start exploring (when it's warm again). When the aphids are gone, the ladybugs are gone.
This is how they look when they're waiting for it to get warm or if aphids have infested your new growth. But they'll be gone soon!
veggiegardener
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I put ladybugs in my greenhouses, each Spring. A couple thousand each.
This is usually enough to slow any infestations way down.
Ladybugs migrate to the Sierra foothills each fall, and return to their birthplace each Spring to lay eggs, so each Spring I get a bunch of ladybugs in my garden.
They eat all the small pests like Aphids, White Flies, Spider Mites and Thrips.
Good luck!
This is usually enough to slow any infestations way down.
Ladybugs migrate to the Sierra foothills each fall, and return to their birthplace each Spring to lay eggs, so each Spring I get a bunch of ladybugs in my garden.
They eat all the small pests like Aphids, White Flies, Spider Mites and Thrips.
Good luck!
ChemoBoy
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Thanks for the migration info. I just assumed they went far far away and never came back. So if I can get them breeding in my garden, they'll come back maybe.
Cali chronic
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To whom it may concern:
Bud worms are the start but not always the cause of Bud mold. Or known as Botrytis. Not sure of the spelling.
BT is a hormone you can use it to the last day of harvest. After 3 days in UV light it is gone ---dissipated!
When the Cat eats it poops that poop will cause a fungus. That fungus is bad to smoke it will damage humans and their lungs.
If you have bud mold because of worms you need to cut about 1 inch below the infected area. As the Mold grows inside the stalk too and will infect the top soon enough and travel down as it's spores drop down too.
I delved into Mold although it is a worm topic as I am hoping to save some ones respiratory system here.
To thwart bud worms you must get rid of the mama's the moths that lay them or butterflies also seen on as a tramp stamp on a woman's back.
Spray your girls with BT once a week if you see moths and butterflies up to every other day. The mixture is 1/2 tsp to a 23 oz spray bottle. Neem oil is always a good idea I feed in soil upto last 4 weeks as well as spray on leaves and buds (never in the sun)
Tight compact bud must be harvested at cloudy if you wait till amber you have increased the possibilites of Mold expodentialy.
I have had good luck with feeding and watering up to the last week flush with R.O H20 and a Flush product that contains folic acid "b" I think or 'A' to help release nutes. By keeping her strong and healty she can fight off infection and disease those worms bring. I also wash my girls at harvest Morning of---trim shade leaves off ---hudson sprayer----4 oz of h202 to 2 gallons of H20 and spray them down real good 'carwash style' let dry that afternoon under shade that evening toss her in the dark and go get her the day after in the morning snip and hang.
Clean washed bud no Mold Worms or Neem or B.T nada nothing bud bud.
If she had a mold spot #1 Mold needs UV top complete cycle #2 real evident after being in the dark 48 hours #3 gives me the oppurtunity to cut and throw away potential bud that could get me sick or a memeber of the collective I belong too. Bud worms=Bud mold ----Bud Mold= sick Human!
Bud worms are the start but not always the cause of Bud mold. Or known as Botrytis. Not sure of the spelling.
BT is a hormone you can use it to the last day of harvest. After 3 days in UV light it is gone ---dissipated!
When the Cat eats it poops that poop will cause a fungus. That fungus is bad to smoke it will damage humans and their lungs.
If you have bud mold because of worms you need to cut about 1 inch below the infected area. As the Mold grows inside the stalk too and will infect the top soon enough and travel down as it's spores drop down too.
I delved into Mold although it is a worm topic as I am hoping to save some ones respiratory system here.
To thwart bud worms you must get rid of the mama's the moths that lay them or butterflies also seen on as a tramp stamp on a woman's back.
Spray your girls with BT once a week if you see moths and butterflies up to every other day. The mixture is 1/2 tsp to a 23 oz spray bottle. Neem oil is always a good idea I feed in soil upto last 4 weeks as well as spray on leaves and buds (never in the sun)
Tight compact bud must be harvested at cloudy if you wait till amber you have increased the possibilites of Mold expodentialy.
I have had good luck with feeding and watering up to the last week flush with R.O H20 and a Flush product that contains folic acid "b" I think or 'A' to help release nutes. By keeping her strong and healty she can fight off infection and disease those worms bring. I also wash my girls at harvest Morning of---trim shade leaves off ---hudson sprayer----4 oz of h202 to 2 gallons of H20 and spray them down real good 'carwash style' let dry that afternoon under shade that evening toss her in the dark and go get her the day after in the morning snip and hang.
Clean washed bud no Mold Worms or Neem or B.T nada nothing bud bud.
If she had a mold spot #1 Mold needs UV top complete cycle #2 real evident after being in the dark 48 hours #3 gives me the oppurtunity to cut and throw away potential bud that could get me sick or a memeber of the collective I belong too. Bud worms=Bud mold ----Bud Mold= sick Human!
ChemoBoy
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what strength H2O2? Anyone else spraying with peroxide at harvest?
veggiegardener
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Please check your facts, or cite credible sources. Bt is NOT a hormone. UV kills it but not in three days.
I never spray Bt more often than every two weeks, but usually once every three weeks is adequate. It's best not to use Bt in the last few weeks before harvest. If you've been using Bt through the season, about three weeks before harvest, using a very fine mist, spray your plants lightly. Done correctly, the mist will coat the leaves without excess moisture on and in the buds. Worms will die before they can do any serious damage.
Agreed. Never smoke moldy weed.
Thank you.
RockstarEnergy
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will pyrethrin prevent budworms or does it have to be BT?
veggiegardener
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Many things will kill caterpillars. But they can also kill any beneficials, as well.
Bt is preferable because it attacks ONLY caterpillars and is almost 100% effective.
Bt is preferable because it attacks ONLY caterpillars and is almost 100% effective.