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With Love
StardustSailor.

White is the truth.
Period.

..................Roxanne, you don't have to put on the red light.....................

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Once more ...

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Eddie,must knew all along...

" Those days are over... '

Enough ,said ..

For now..

Ww + 660nm forever........................fixed that for you

Good to see your OK......how did the osram girl(s) finish out???

i almost agree with u sds.... sometimes i wish i had less red and more white with my af600s... however, i do think the reds help

PSUAGRO. said:

Ww + 660nm forever........................fixed that for you

Good to see your OK......how did the osram girl(s) finish out???

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No more 660 leds for me,thanks.
I'm on another ...' path ' ....

As for the girl ...
Let's just say ,that it could not get worse....
But that's history ...

Past.

'Things ' are going much better now ...

Once more ( and I'm bettin' that one moment ,you 'll be remembering me -in the future .... )

All you need is whites.
2-3 different kinds ,will do fine ...
Which?
At what ratio ?

...

Secret ....Shhhhhh.....

(Am I turning capitalist ? ...
It's a jungle ,out there,bro...
...Ya know ,what I mean ... )

To "cut out " some of the " crap" ...

One does not have to guess that far which types of white leds are needed ...

Thing is ...
For the 'system ' to be ' efficient ' -at it's most/basic of aspects- ...
Ok ...
Just due to vast available selection of modern high -power white leds ...
Let alone ' other / rest ' of ..hmm...' variables' ......
Things get really complicated,in a way of speaking ... ...

...

But ....


Simply said ...

HPS ?
Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!!
MH ?
Again ...
Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!!


The flag has fallen ,I'm tellin' ya ...
No reds ,no blues ...

Weeds are wild ones ...

Whatever that means to you ...
N o "spot on " Wavelengths ...

Bad ...
Very bad ...
One way or another ...
Nevermind that, it seems to be working ....
Nevermind ,it ,I'm tellin' ya ...

'Crawling' with 'flying' ,ain't the same ...

stardustsailor said:

To "cut out " some of the " crap" ...

One does not have to guess that far which types of white leds are needed ...

Thing is ...
For the 'system ' to be ' efficient ' -at it's most/basic of aspects- ...
Ok ...
Just due to vast available selection of modern high -power white leds ...
Let alone ' other / rest ' of ..hmm...' variables' ......
Things get really complicated,in a way of speaking ... ...

...

But ....


Simply said ...

HPS ?
Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!!
MH ?
Again ...
Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha !!!!


The flag has fallen ,I'm tellin' ya ...

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Oh so your waiting for those 250lm per watt ww leds too??ha.......I agree, leds have nowhere to go but UP in efficacy: beat hid at its own game!

still think it's an all ww panel or "mix" of cw/nw/ww now"^^^^????

PSUAGRO. said:

Oh so your waiting for those 250lm per watt ww leds too??ha.......I agree, leds have nowhere to go but UP in efficacy: beat hid at its own game!

still think it's an all ww panel or "mix" of cw/nw/ww now"^^^^????

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Ooooppss...
Is it my imagination,or we're on the same 'boat',my brother ?

Yeap...
You've got 'things' the way they are and will be (evolution....) ...
Right on .

The first video ...

The one with the WW leds supplementing natural sunlight .....

Very interesting video ...
For the ... ' trained eye' ( lol ) ..
Notice the ' video-quality-relative-to video sunlight ref ' temperature of led's white light (< 3000K 4 sure .... ,eh ? ) ...

Notice leaf movement and angle ,rate growth ,height of leds ,coverage ....

Very interesting video ,indeed ...

WW leds ....

Wow ...


( But which ones ? .....
.... .... )

Same boat brother...............BUT how far is the shore?????????????

next year will be quite interesting with those all-white led panels(cree mk-r??)

PSUAGRO. said:

Same boat brother...............BUT how far is the shore?????????????

next year will be quite interesting with those all-white led panels(cree mk-r??)

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When you set sail for Ithaca,wish for the road to be long,full of adventures, full of knowledge.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclopes,an angry Poseidon &#8212; do not fear.
You will never find such on your path,if your thoughts remain lofty, and your spirit and body are touched by a fine emotion.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclopes,a savage Poseidon you will not encounter,if you do not carry them within your spirit,
if your spirit does not place them before you.
Wish for the road to be long.
Many the summer mornings to be when with what pleasure, what joy you will enter ports seen for the first time.
Stop at Phoenician markets,and purchase the fine goods,nacre and coral, amber and ebony,and exquisite perfumes of all sorts,the most delicate fragrances you can find.
To many Egyptian cities you must go,to learn and learn from the cultivated.
Always keep Ithaca in your mind.
To arrive there is your final destination.But do not hurry the voyage at all.
It is better for it to last many years,and when old to rest in the island,
rich with all you have gained on the way,not expecting Ithaca to offer you wealth.
Ithaca has given you the beautiful journey.Without her you would not have set out on the road.
Nothing more does she have to give you.
And if you find her poor, Ithaca has not deceived you.
Wise as you have become, with so much experience,you must already have understood what Ithacas mean.

Constantine P. Cavafy

Can I say I agree, but only to an extent? I do not see any great grows with just white LEDs, most seem to believe that the latest, best combo is whites and reds. If whites were the bomb by themselves, we could get there with fluorescent technology, but we see that even Inda-Gro wants to add red.

yeah i mean the only reason why i wish there were more white and less reds on my af600s is because it's easier to inspect my plants I def. think red is needed.

Soo... This is good to know, and agreeable, but you don't believe in supplementing your whites with mono- emitters? Don't get me wrong, Full Spectrum (w/whites or w/out) is your best option. but you don't want heighten your senses? ;D

control stretch with blue... hasten flower with FR... UVB...

Now.. when formal research is "acceptable.." maybe some companies will start developing diodes specifically for what we want them for with all these nm's we want more of.

But that gets into "what's the right wavelengths" bs, in time we'll be able to get or hands on some serious power.

did i get it wrong or wasnt the message of the 2nd Video: fuck White light and get some flavor enhancing, growth Controlling spectrum "that enables so many things u cant imagine, because with light you can affect every prospect of your plant, how it looks like, how it tastes like"

from my little cress led/sun comparison i noticed the taste aspect of 660nm...well if its not caused by something else - like just differences in the amount of light intensity sun vs led

SDS, you are the man!! yes sir!!!

I got your tips and made me some led panels, about 8:2 WW:CW, and the plants love it, only at veg time right now but no stretch with 40W only, now i put another 60w panel to boost growth.
Don't know yet if reds make some diff in flower, but the WW price is much lower and seems more natural to me a continuous spectrum as white ligth than the discrete light red or blue leds produce.

Thanks for all your time givens to this philosophy and help in astir thread.

stardustsailor said:

All you need is whites.
2-3 different kinds ,will do fine ...
Which?
At what ratio ?

(Am I turning capitalist ? ...
It's a jungle ,out there,bro...
...Ya know ,what I mean ... )

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It's a hard time to be a socialist in Greece, from what I understand. Good luck with your recipe, hope it works.