WTF Man. I spend good money with top of the line breeders and get shit. WHY?

Hemlock

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WTF man. I spend my hard earned cash on top of the line cannbis cup winning strain and 90 percent of the time I get shit and I mean shit. I been round here a long time and been growing even longer. I spent over 5000 USD over the last year and outta 35 strains I got 4 Keepers 4 are you kidding me? That's the best you guys can do. Yeah I talking to DNA, reserve parade, TH Seeds, Green House, DJ Short, Humbolt seed Org. Delicious seeds I got a Crirical Kali mist that's fucking blooming in a twenty hour a day veg room. Now I run about 4000 thousands watts in 400 watt fixtures in VEG so I have a lot of strains and keep lots of clones no one seems to be having this blooming problem except for the Crirical Kali Mist however they know they are not only one whos strain did that is it DNA your fuking Kosher Kush did the same thing. So many of these so called industry leaders are really just marketing guys cause there strains suck. So really to me winning the Cannabis Cup is a bit of a badge of shame cause all it really mean is you can write a check to high times so you can print what I call your Hippy Bullshit, LIES about your work/strains. A little advise guys stop advertising and get back in your rooms and find out WTF you're doing wrong. I mean 120 USD for five seeds and no keepers not even close, I don't get it? And when you tell them about it they just tell you it you it not us, Yeah well fuck you, yeah I mean you to Bodhi, that dream lotus is weak POS and I wanted it bad. I want you all to know that the breeder's mentions are no the only offenders but the ones that hurt the most cause the COST so MUCH. I started working with a group a while back called Breeders Boutique. No we are no well known but I can promise one thing I have never popped one of there beens that I didn't have to really pause to decide which one I would keep cause they were are so close in type and kind and structure. DST deserves the credit and I have have been fortunate to get a front row seat in watching him make a go of Breeders Boutique. He has set the bar so high that the rest of these guys are really just fighting for second place. Guys like Don Gin And Ton hes my Brother from another Mother. And the incomparable Mr west who pyso killer crosses are stuff of legend. Know this you pop a fucking bean from us and ya don't get a keeper let me know we will make it right, Cause if I ever see one of my strain bloom in a veg room I will jerk the whole fucking seed run and start over. Cause I want to see people remember the experience and the strain.
 

urban1026835

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so hemlock im curious to know what breeders you have found keepers from. is this hemlock of bb? if so thanks for the good work i have a stash of boutique gear.
 

urban1026835

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guess you answered my question on the edit and i can say they have the Best customer service hands down, got a blue pit started now some qq, on deck deep blue x livers sour kush x deep blue and more to come...
 

Hemlock

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so hemlock im curious to know what breeders you have found keepers from. is this hemlock of bb? if so thanks for the good work i have a stash of boutique gear.
Sorry Bro I should have made it clear all these I bought were for breeding stock so none of them are mine. I do run my own strain but as a breeder I'm always looking for a keeper and I just didn't find it outta a 35 different strain run to me that speak volumes about where this industry is.... Of what I consider to be top of the strain I kept G13 Labs Pinapple express, Sensi Star, Delicious seeds Critical Sensi Star and Humbolt seeds Org train wreck.
 

Cobnobuler

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So....what this is all about then is a plug for BB then..? Hey just askin, I got no problem wit dat, maybe I'll check 'em out and do a little shoppin.
I'm more concerned about the state of this this business and the problems with regards to shipping to the US which seems to be getting a little tighter. With reports of more and more customs seizures and good breeders like Sanniesshop no longer able to accept credit cards, thats not exactly moving forward.
 

Hemlock

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So....what this is all about then is a plug for BB then..? Hey just askin, I got no problem wit dat, maybe I'll check 'em out and do a little shoppin.
I'm more concerned about the state of this this business and the problems with regards to shipping to the US which seems to be getting a little tighter. With reports of more and more customs seizures and good breeders like Sanniesshop no longer able to accept credit cards, thats not exactly moving forward.
No not a plug for BB just my opinion on these so called industry leaders who sell shit plants. As I stated I was look for Breeding stock thats why I went and bought Cup winner to breed to my strain and supposedly make them better.
 

brimck325

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i wouldn't exactly call those top of the line breeders. dna used to be ok, the rest of em i wouldn't ever think of running in my rooms.
 

Hemlock

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i wouldn't exactly call those top of the line breeders. dna used to be ok, the rest of em i wouldn't ever think of running in my rooms.
Why they are Cannabis Cup winner High Times says they are the best,,, hell HT's does big articles on these guy how they really want to do it right and would never breed substandard plants ect ect....
 

Hemlock

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Let say again the one I named are not the only offenders, they are just the ones I remember cause they cost the most
 

brimck325

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no disrespect was meant hemlock. the high times cup???? uhhmmmm, i don't find the cup to be a judge of anything but who has more coin.
 

hoonry

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It's a good thing that we can take clones!

I hear ya - I think we have all been disappointed at some point or another with a strain we have coveted or made into a holy grail. Even when the plants perform just as they are advertised to they can still end up being underwhelming compared to what you thought they should have been.

find the good ones and clone em, and keep em.
 

ProdigalSun

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I just don't see why they cost so much. Not that it isn't worth 15$ for a whole plant, but it's still just a seed. One of thousands on a plant.
 

Ibex

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Have you tried TGA's gear or Rare Dankness? Ive had good outcomes with their products personally and in a mmj warehouse focus.

Guess you now know not to hold a flame to the HT's opinions.
 

amgprb

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Ok, i will say BB IS THE SHIT! Great strains, great prices! BB and Hemlock, keep up the GREAT work!!! Makin some crosses with your gear (Sour Cherry) and I would LOVE to share the outcome, just unsure how to get the beans to ya!

Anyways, I have run most breeders gear. I am running TGA for the first time as we speak. I will say, as of now, BB and Bomb ceeds are at the VERY TOP of my list!
 
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