Midwestflowers420
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Ran across this through alibaba I’ve been waiting to see 1 light cover the space of 2 happy to see this
Wow leds are coming a long ways
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Phytoplankton
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It looks good, but I’m always a bit skeptical of no-name Alibaba products, The thing that kinda tingles my “”spidee senses” is they’re using a kinda strange mix of LED’s 301h, 301b, lm281’s. But hey, they might be great. I did notice min order is 10!
Rocket Soul
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This would probably mean theyre made to order, 301x or 281b, and the price depends on the diode. Quoted is always the min price, in this case 281b most likely.
Midwestflowers420
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99% of the lights you see come from shenzhen same factories as alibaba and brands just have their name out in em
effexxess
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8 feet is a huge light. Kind of an albatross, pulling 1,200 watts at the wall.
Phat Nuggz
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Wow that’s crazy
DoubleAtotheRON
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If you want quality lights for cheap, just look at some Oklahoma Buy/Sell/Trade pages..... grow ops shutting down everywhere.
DoubleAtotheRON
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I think I paid around $14,000 for my HLG's..... sold them for $3600.
TCH
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Man, that's so sad. I know they made their money back multiple times over, but that still stings a bit.
DoubleAtotheRON
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Midwestflowers420
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Dude I didn’t know you closed up! I don’t blame ya. Care sharing your grow setups with me I’m building a grow in Minnesota and liked your setup. Still have botanicare tables?
DoubleAtotheRON
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Yeah, it just got to the point that the market crashed so hard here that it wasn't worth doing anymore. I prob lost money on my last grow. I have sold everything as far as equipment except for the CO2 generator and controller. My Journal is still alive, so you can scroll through there to get some ideas. Some things I fabricated to make my life easier.
watsongreenthumb
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I Have been looking at some of that gear coming out of Oklahoma, all kinds of nice stuff on classifieds and online liquidation auctions. I am not real familiar with OK market but really concerning to hear that its gotten to the point where it isnt worth it anymore for somebody producing quality indoor product and running a tight ship like yourself, do you see it turning around at some point in the future?
Mason Jar 92705
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Legalization, isn’t it wonderful?! *sarcasm*
DoubleAtotheRON
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No... I don't. We got a notice from the State that we're producing 32 times the amount to what gets consumed/sold. Currently, we have around 7200 growers. In order for us to get to a viable market, we would have to get down to around 225 growers.... not gonna happen. Eventually, weed will be as cheap as vegetables. Too easy to make yourself, and as a patient for $50 a year, you can have on hand, 6 flowering, and 6 vegging per person, per household. For instance.. There's me and my wife, and my parents that have a home on my property with the same address. So, we can have 24 flowering, and 24 vegging at any given moment. On top of the legal commercial grows, the patients are selling thier excess to the BM. ... Current legal grow prices are $300-$800 a lb. The cost to produce a lb. including electricity, water, nutes, etc. is about $500 a lb. So, if you spend 5 months producing 30 lbs, you might make $9000 in a best case scenario. ... or lose money. .... IF you can move it. You'd be better off flipping burgers without the headaches of reporting, inspections, failed tests and losing the whole crop, and working your ass off for nothing.
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Midwestflowers420
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That’s sick though price wise meanwhile dispensaries are probably still making 300-400% profit
DoubleAtotheRON
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Meh.... we all were at first in 2018-19-20... then it started shifting. Now, you can buy (what they call) Top Shelf Oz's for $100, mids for $40-$50.
Midwestflowers420
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I know there’s a huge fallout there but are the only ones surviving the cultivation/dispensary combo guys? Like I wouldn’t drop a lb for less than $1000 I just can’t imagine selling someone my hard work for $300-$800. What was the original wholesale going rate on legalization I’m curious for Minnesota legalization. I think I’m gonna do what you did and do a 2 year blast then get out or sell seeds and clones haha
DoubleAtotheRON
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At first, we were getting $3000-$3300 a lb. in 2019, 2020 started seeing $2400-$2600, then it just started falling off from there as more growers came online.... 2022 was the big drop early in the year. The way our law was written, it was doomed from the beginning.