Worm castings

greasemonkeymann

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Ordered up 4,000 worms might be overkill but they are on special. I have my herb garden as well as my other herb garden, so I will be composting a lot. And won't go to waste.
you'd be surprised, you'll probably think that 4000 worms is much more than you get.
Sounds like a HUGE amount of worms but it isn't.
Good choice though, and you'll be pleasantly surprised on how addictive it is to have a wormbin... almost as fun as pot growing itself... same thing can be said about a compost pile..
OR maybe i'm just a weirdo...
my GF says so...
 

NorthernHize

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The wife said the same thing, I'll be obsessed with the worm bin and what they are eating. Just out of curiosity I plan on having four shoebox Rubbermaid size bins is 500 per acceptable or should I order more. Or should I just combine them all into one big bin?
 

hyroot

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one larger bin. I have 2 bins. 30 gal Rubbermaid and an 18 gal Rubbermaid. Alot of people do 20 gal -45 gal fabric pots for their bin too. I think multiple 18 gals or 20 gals are fine for rubbermaids. Any smaller is too small imo
 

NorthernHize

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one larger bin. I have 2 bins. 30 gal Rubbermaid and an 18 gal Rubbermaid. Alot of people do 20 gal -45 gal fabric pots for their bin too. I think multiple 18 gals or 20 gals are fine for rubbermaids. Any smaller is too small imo
Will do!
 

whitebb2727

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one larger bin. I have 2 bins. 30 gal Rubbermaid and an 18 gal Rubbermaid. Alot of people do 20 gal -45 gal fabric pots for their bin too. I think multiple 18 gals or 20 gals are fine for rubbermaids. Any smaller is too small imo

Do you stack your bins or just let them fill up? I'm confused as how to harvest castings.

I'm fixing to start. I have a home made 55 gallon drum spinning composter.

I have a 35 gallon drum I thought about turning side ways for a worm bin. Or a stackable farm.

I don't know which is best.
 

hyroot

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I stack them one inside the other sitting on top of bedding. Then worms can make their way back and forth between bins.

I made a sifting screen with 1/4 inch mesh and some 1x2 wood for the frame. I sift out the castings with that. Separating the castings from the worms and uncomposted material
 

95'ZR1

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Like hyroot said having them go between bins is the easiest way to collect your EWC. That is how the expensive name brand bins are setup, they have different levels and as the worms finish the food on lv 1 they go to lv 2 and you then collect casting from level 1.
 

greasemonkeymann

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one larger bin. I have 2 bins. 30 gal Rubbermaid and an 18 gal Rubbermaid. Alot of people do 20 gal -45 gal fabric pots for their bin too. I think multiple 18 gals or 20 gals are fine for rubbermaids. Any smaller is too small imo
that's my setup, two big ole smartpots, I don't even know their size because the sun kinda bleached the tag to nothingness.
two bins is a good setup though, sorta like the same concept as having a perpetual grow.
 
lmao

worm castings provide beneficial bacteria, fungi, nematodes, chitin plus nutes depending on what the worms have been fed.

I feed my worms veggie scraps, kelp meal, rock dust, oyster shell flour, eggshells, crab meal, neem meal, oats, amd the bedding is made of peatmoss, coco, dandelions, nettle. comfrey., and dried canna leaves, aloe leaves, lavender, peppermint leaves, chocolate mint leaves, and left overs from seed sprout teas, and other plant material.

My own castings have a full spectrum of everything


that guy is either the wrong kind of special or messing with you
Just to touch on what you guys were talking about earlier this week.. In addition to providing the beneficial microbes that Hyroot mentioned, and the water holding capacity that Hize mentioned, one of the most important parts of what Worm castings do is improve the Cation Exchange Capacity of your soil. The castings are rich in Humus, which has a high CEC so it improves the nutrient holding ability of the soil and helps to buffer the PH.

Some examples of CECs for soil or potting mixes or their components include
(in meq•100 g-1):
humus 200 vermiculite 150 sphagnum peat moss 100 - 200
fine clay soils 55-65 (2:1 v/v) bark:perlite 24 (1:1 v/v) peat:vermiculite 141


Good luck with your worm farm! I just started one myself. Going on day 3! So far, I've had a couple wanderers, but none have left the bin and seem to be OK so far. Bedding is mostly cardboard with some shredded paper. The bin I made is one from the Rubbermaid bins, with multiple levels so I can use the top bin to move the worms to make harvesting castings easier.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Just to touch on what you guys were talking about earlier this week.. In addition to providing the beneficial microbes that Hyroot mentioned, and the water holding capacity that Hize mentioned, one of the most important parts of what Worm castings do is improve the Cation Exchange Capacity of your soil. The castings are rich in Humus, which has a high CEC so it improves the nutrient holding ability of the soil and helps to buffer the PH.

Some examples of CECs for soil or potting mixes or their components include
(in meq•100 g-1):
humus 200 vermiculite 150 sphagnum peat moss 100 - 200
fine clay soils 55-65 (2:1 v/v) bark:perlite 24 (1:1 v/v) peat:vermiculite 141


Good luck with your worm farm! I just started one myself. Going on day 3! So far, I've had a couple wanderers, but none have left the bin and seem to be OK so far. Bedding is mostly cardboard with some shredded paper. The bin I made is one from the Rubbermaid bins, with multiple levels so I can use the top bin to move the worms to make harvesting castings easier.
maybe get a small bag of peat in there too,could be in my head but my worms seemed to reproduce faster when they have peat in there as well as the newspaper, (I had two different bins one with peat one without) like a 50-50 ratio or so, the peat holds a "happy" amount of moisture as well, also it's easier to bury your rotting kitchen stuff with peat too, keeps those gnats away.
course newspaper and cardboard is just fine too.
 
maybe get a small bag of peat in there too,could be in my head but my worms seemed to reproduce faster when they have peat in there as well as the newspaper, (I had two different bins one with peat one without) like a 50-50 ratio or so, the peat holds a "happy" amount of moisture as well, also it's easier to bury your rotting kitchen stuff with peat too, keeps those gnats away.
course newspaper and cardboard is just fine too.
Thanks.. My worms came in peat, so there is some in there. I went with corrugated cardboard since I read it was easier to control moisture that is often associated with plastic bins. I'll have to try out peat on my next one. More people just moved in with us, so more food scraps means I need more bins! :D
 

greasemonkeymann

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Thanks.. My worms came in peat, so there is some in there. I went with corrugated cardboard since I read it was easier to control moisture that is often associated with plastic bins. I'll have to try out peat on my next one. More people just moved in with us, so more food scraps means I need more bins! :D
ahh I gotcha.. I have mine in samrtpots so they breathe way more than the plastic, but i'd speculate that peat would dissipate moisture better than cardboard, which would mean less problems with anaerobic conditions
 

Smidge34

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I use 50-50 shredded corrugated cardboard and peat. Just remember, there is zero nutrition in peat for both the worms and in the castings produced solely from them, so plenty of veggie scraps, coffee grounds, powdered egg shells, etc must be added. I do like being able to bury my scraps under the peat and I hardly ever have to remoisten.
 

NorthernHize

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Just to touch on what you guys were talking about earlier this week.. In addition to providing the beneficial microbes that Hyroot mentioned, and the water holding capacity that Hize mentioned, one of the most important parts of what Worm castings do is improve the Cation Exchange Capacity of your soil. The castings are rich in Humus, which has a high CEC so it improves the nutrient holding ability of the soil and helps to buffer the PH.

Some examples of CECs for soil or potting mixes or their components include
(in meq•100 g-1):
humus 200 vermiculite 150 sphagnum peat moss 100 - 200
fine clay soils 55-65 (2:1 v/v) bark:perlite 24 (1:1 v/v) peat:vermiculite 141


Good luck with your worm farm! I just started one myself. Going on day 3! So far, I've had a couple wanderers, but none have left the bin and seem to be OK so far. Bedding is mostly cardboard with some shredded paper. The bin I made is one from the Rubbermaid bins, with multiple levels so I can use the top bin to move the worms to make harvesting castings easier.
Hey I appreciate your post however I must plead ignorance when you went into the examples of CEC's I don't know what that means or any of the other stuff you said but I want to know can you elaborate in English? Lol
 
Hey I appreciate your post however I must plead ignorance when you went into the examples of CEC's I don't know what that means or any of the other stuff you said but I want to know can you elaborate in English? Lol
CEC is basically the ability of soil to hold certain nutrients(the ones that are cations, like K, Ca, Mg, etc.). A cation is a positively charged ion and it is attracted to really small particles, like those found in clay soils or organic materials such as Humus. The CEC level of different types of soil measures the ability of the negative ions in the soil to attract positively charged cations and use those exchange sites to bind those cations. Hydrogen gets displaced from these sites allowing the larger nutrient particles to cling to the exchange site.

Its obviously more complex and involves a bit of chemistry understanding, so I suggest just researching it when you get time. Its one of the most important parts to your soil and something every organic soil gardener should learn about.
 
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