Will this work????

perpetual 12/12.. tell me if you guys think this will work.. start with x plants, gow to 2 nodes take tops of each as clones and swith to 12/12.. once your females show, take tops from clones, for the next batch, continue and repeat forever....... I no the plants will be small (desired effect).. I know you can clone in 12/12, from a plant in 12/12 have seen and done it....so why would I need a mom or clone area??? what am i missing?

a mom is a plant that has reached its maturity so the clones you take off of it will also be mature, which makes the plant that much more able to produce buds, if you just take the tops off of seedlings to clone, you will be force flowering them which creates stress.

fair enough, but aot of growers flower plant from seed and seedling (force flowering) as long as your eviorment is controlled what is the potential problem? I understand each plant wont get large, but too me as a small scale cfl grower that is a plus not a minus especially in a sog type setup

but if you top after only two nodes the plants are only 2 in tall? and you plan to clone the cutting if im understanding correctly? thats a really small plant and almost not worth the trouble, as opposed to growing one mother to 24in then taking good strong clones that you can flower as soon as the rooting has begun and those can be kept short just depends on how large a cutting you take.

you are also "missing" that clones do not need a lot of light and that clones taken from flowering plants tend to be reeeeeally slow to take root.

in my grow i use CFLs for my clones but i only use about 40 watts for several clones and the bulbs are a few inches above them.

my clones from my mothers take just over a week to show roots on average and the ones i take from flowering plants (new seedlings) take much longer to show roots.

however, i can keep two mother plants that are under two feet tall and using about 100 watts of CFL to keep them going.

i am sure you could do what you are proposing but it would be a lot slower than you are hoping i suspect.

please, by all means try it out though and prove me wrong

bfq said:

you are also "missing" that clones do not need a lot of light and that clones taken from flowering plants tend to be reeeeeally slow to take root.

in my grow i use CFLs for my clones but i only use about 40 watts for several clones and the bulbs are a few inches above them.

my clones from my mothers take just over a week to show roots on average and the ones i take from flowering plants (new seedlings) take much longer to show roots.

however, i can keep two mother plants that are under two feet tall and using about 100 watts of CFL to keep them going.

i am sure you could do what you are proposing but it would be a lot slower than you are hoping i suspect.

please, by all means try it out though and prove me wrong

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again all understood, the only thing I can disagree with is the rooting time from a flowering plant, I have done a few experiments and not matter when I take a clone it takes about 5 days too root, and it doesnt matter if I give them 24/7 lighting or 12/12...still the same time frame.. further taking a 2-3 inch clone is exactly the plan ala drbud from icmag..further I didnt miss that the clones dont need as much light I was banking on it, makes it easier to maintain one grow area.. the clones can be further from the lights..so the larger further along plants wont need to be lstd or anything, also keeping the lights further from the clones will encourage strtch which will make it easier to cut the tops for the next round.... thanks for the reply you helped me work it out...wish me luck

taking clones from a flowering plant is no problem. keep it 21 days or less though or they'll take forever to revert back to veg. setting up a perpetual grow is very difficult to do on a set timetable. you'll need a lot of equipment to experiment until you get it right. 3 birds had a great system on the old overgrow site.

LUCK!

how come you dont see a delay in clone time from taking the clones during flower? i do it regularly myself so i am not arguing that it cant be done... i aint arguing at all, actually... i think i am more begging to be schooled LOL

so, what gives? how do you do your clones?

thats the thing I dont have any special method, maybe I am just lucky but I have taken a clone from a vegging plant with no problem, I have taken a clone from a plant that has just showed sex with no problem, hell I even took 2 undeveloped bud brances from a plant I harvested and no problem, I dont use any powders or gels or anything I simply put the cutting in a rocwool cube, put it in a hempy bucket and grow.....

yeah, i seriously need to trek across the State and get some rock wool... the Jiffy's are not doing my clones any favors. mostly because they wind up either over or under watered :/

i dont have any problem cloning from flowering plants other than they take longer... actually, i am starting to think they make for healthier clones in the long run.