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Let's remember that if this referendum on Obamacare had been done in almost any other state, it would have been even more of a landslide. Go ahead and try to ram it through. Go ahead.
Will this man end dem super majority?
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laughingduck
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Yes he will! lmao
spinninggorilla
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Yes he pulled it off. Tables are starting to turn little by little. obama is now 0 for 4, everytime he trys to help out, they lose! Doesnt he get it, he's the problem.
MacGuyver4.2.0
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Poll: Americans skeptical of Obama's promises
Only 35 percent say theyre confident he's got the right set of goals, policies
WASHINGTON - When Barack Obama entered office, the expectations that he and others set for his presidency couldnt have been higher.
Obama announced that he was embarking on an ambitious agenda to create new jobs, to reform the nations health care system, to lessen the worlds nuclear threats and to curb partisan bickering.
We have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord, he said in his inaugural address. On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas that for far too long have strangled our politics.
But as Obama wraps up his first full year in office, the American public has grown increasingly skeptical over his promises to change Washington and his "yes-we-can" agenda, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
A plurality of Americans believe his health care overhaul is a bad idea; fewer than one in five are satisfied with the economy; just 30 percent give him good marks on changing business as usual in Washington; and a majority think he has accomplished very little or only some of his goals over the past 12 months.
What Americans wanted and expected was a better economy, a reduced presence in Iraq and a fundamental change in the way Washington does business, said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with GOP pollster Bill McInturff.
This hasnt happened. And not surprisingly, the president has suffered.
Still, the message of hope that Obama campaigned on hasnt necessarily evaporated. Nearly four in 10 believe that he will be a successful president, and a nearly identical number of Americans say its too early to make a judgment about his presidency.
Indeed, as Obama also declared at his inaugural, the countrys challenges wouldnt be solved in a year. They are serious, and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time.
Personal Obama vs. professional Obama
In the poll which was conducted between Jan. 10 and Jan. 14 of 1,002 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points Americans appear to have two different views of the president: They like him personally, but are more doubtful about his positions on the issues.
A combined three-quarters say they personally like Obama, and 52 percent have a positive view of him, compared with 35 percent who have a negative one.
In addition, he receives his highest scores on being easy-going and likeable (a combined 72 percent), being inspirational and exciting (59 percent), having strong leadership qualities (57 percent), being honest and straightforward (51 percent) and representing traditional American values (51 percent).
But Obama gets lower scores on the professional aspects of his job being a firm and decisive decision-maker (49 percent), being a good commander in chief (49 percent), being knowledgeable and experienced (47 percent), uniting the country (40 percent), achieving his goals (40 percent), sharing Americans positions on the issues (38 percent), and changing business as usual in Washington (30 percent).
Whats more, only 35 percent say theyre confident the president has the right set of goals and policies, and 54 percent believe he has accomplished very little or only some of his first-year office goals, versus 45 percent who think hes accomplished a great deal or a fair amount.
Overall, Obamas job-approval rating sits at 48 percent, up one point from the NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey in December. But its down from the 60 percent rating he held after taking office.
Health care, economy drag down Obama Attitudes about the economy and the protracted debate over health care appear to be dragging down the presidents political standing, the poll also finds.
Only 33 percent say that Obamas health care plan is a good idea, compared with 46 percent who believe its a bad one.
That result is essentially unchanged from last month's poll. However, the number saying that Obama's health plan is a bad idea has increased 20 percentage points since April, when the public supported the reform effort by a 33 percent to 26 percent margin.
Moreover, 48 percent consider the health care legislation to be a step backward if it becomes law, versus 42 percent who say it would be a step forward.
And only 38 percent approve of the presidents handling of health care, although that number is higher than the 26 percent who approve how congressional Republicans have handled health care.
The economy also remains a problem for the administration. Just 16 percent say theyre satisfied with the state of the U.S. economy, compared with a whopping 83 percent who say theyre dissatisfied.
"The ringing in of 2010 brought little cheer to Americans, said McInturff, the GOP pollster. The mood continues to be in the doldrums.
Still, almost two-thirds of Americans (65 percent) maintain that the current economy is a situation Obama inherited. Only 17 percent believe the presidents economic policies are responsible for the economy.
Government isnt the answer?
But the poll also shows dissatisfaction with the governments expanded role in the economy.
Fifty-three percent say they disapprove of the federal governments expanded role in the efforts to fix the nations economy.
Whats more, 60 percent disapprove of the governments financial help to banks and other lending institutions, and 65 percent disapprove of the governments ownership stake in General Motors.
By contrast, 82 percent approve of the measure Obama signed into law placing new restrictions on credit card companies; another 82 percent approve of the administrations work to extend unemployment benefits; and 68 percent approve of the tax cuts that were contained in the economic stimulus that was signed into law last year.
Americans approve of the entire stimulus package by a narrow 49 percent to 43 percent margin.
Overall, according to the poll, 48 percent believe the government is doing too many things, versus 43 percent who think it should be doing more things.
Thats a turnaround from the survey taken immediately after Obama became president, which found the public supporting a greater role in government, 51 percent to 40 percent.
The GOPs enthusiasm edge
Looking ahead to this years congressional midterm elections, the poll shows the Republican Party with a significant advantage in enthusiasm.
Sixty percent of Republicans express high interest in the November midterms, compared with only 44 percent of Democrats.
In addition, registered voters are split, 41 percent to 41 percent, over their preference for a Democratic- or a Republican-controlled Congress, which is the GOPs best showing on this question since Dec. 2003.
And voters who have a high interest in the midterms prefer Republicans by 15 points, 50 percent to 35 percent.
Still, the Republican Party continues to have a problem with its brand. Only 30 percent have a positive view of the GOP, and 42 percent have a negative view. (By comparison, the Democratic Party has a 38 percent to 41 percent positive/negative score.)
And a year after leaving office, George W. Bushs poll numbers are essentially unchanged: 30 percent see him in a positive light, versus 51 percent who view him negatively.
When he left office in January 2009, Bush held a 31 percent to 58 percent positive/negative rating.
Only 35 percent say theyre confident he's got the right set of goals, policies
WASHINGTON - When Barack Obama entered office, the expectations that he and others set for his presidency couldnt have been higher.
Obama announced that he was embarking on an ambitious agenda to create new jobs, to reform the nations health care system, to lessen the worlds nuclear threats and to curb partisan bickering.
We have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord, he said in his inaugural address. On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas that for far too long have strangled our politics.
But as Obama wraps up his first full year in office, the American public has grown increasingly skeptical over his promises to change Washington and his "yes-we-can" agenda, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
A plurality of Americans believe his health care overhaul is a bad idea; fewer than one in five are satisfied with the economy; just 30 percent give him good marks on changing business as usual in Washington; and a majority think he has accomplished very little or only some of his goals over the past 12 months.
What Americans wanted and expected was a better economy, a reduced presence in Iraq and a fundamental change in the way Washington does business, said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with GOP pollster Bill McInturff.
This hasnt happened. And not surprisingly, the president has suffered.
Still, the message of hope that Obama campaigned on hasnt necessarily evaporated. Nearly four in 10 believe that he will be a successful president, and a nearly identical number of Americans say its too early to make a judgment about his presidency.
Indeed, as Obama also declared at his inaugural, the countrys challenges wouldnt be solved in a year. They are serious, and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time.
Personal Obama vs. professional Obama
In the poll which was conducted between Jan. 10 and Jan. 14 of 1,002 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points Americans appear to have two different views of the president: They like him personally, but are more doubtful about his positions on the issues.
A combined three-quarters say they personally like Obama, and 52 percent have a positive view of him, compared with 35 percent who have a negative one.
In addition, he receives his highest scores on being easy-going and likeable (a combined 72 percent), being inspirational and exciting (59 percent), having strong leadership qualities (57 percent), being honest and straightforward (51 percent) and representing traditional American values (51 percent).
But Obama gets lower scores on the professional aspects of his job being a firm and decisive decision-maker (49 percent), being a good commander in chief (49 percent), being knowledgeable and experienced (47 percent), uniting the country (40 percent), achieving his goals (40 percent), sharing Americans positions on the issues (38 percent), and changing business as usual in Washington (30 percent).
Whats more, only 35 percent say theyre confident the president has the right set of goals and policies, and 54 percent believe he has accomplished very little or only some of his first-year office goals, versus 45 percent who think hes accomplished a great deal or a fair amount.
Overall, Obamas job-approval rating sits at 48 percent, up one point from the NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey in December. But its down from the 60 percent rating he held after taking office.
Health care, economy drag down Obama Attitudes about the economy and the protracted debate over health care appear to be dragging down the presidents political standing, the poll also finds.
Only 33 percent say that Obamas health care plan is a good idea, compared with 46 percent who believe its a bad one.
That result is essentially unchanged from last month's poll. However, the number saying that Obama's health plan is a bad idea has increased 20 percentage points since April, when the public supported the reform effort by a 33 percent to 26 percent margin.
Moreover, 48 percent consider the health care legislation to be a step backward if it becomes law, versus 42 percent who say it would be a step forward.
And only 38 percent approve of the presidents handling of health care, although that number is higher than the 26 percent who approve how congressional Republicans have handled health care.
The economy also remains a problem for the administration. Just 16 percent say theyre satisfied with the state of the U.S. economy, compared with a whopping 83 percent who say theyre dissatisfied.
"The ringing in of 2010 brought little cheer to Americans, said McInturff, the GOP pollster. The mood continues to be in the doldrums.
Still, almost two-thirds of Americans (65 percent) maintain that the current economy is a situation Obama inherited. Only 17 percent believe the presidents economic policies are responsible for the economy.
Government isnt the answer?
But the poll also shows dissatisfaction with the governments expanded role in the economy.
Fifty-three percent say they disapprove of the federal governments expanded role in the efforts to fix the nations economy.
Whats more, 60 percent disapprove of the governments financial help to banks and other lending institutions, and 65 percent disapprove of the governments ownership stake in General Motors.
By contrast, 82 percent approve of the measure Obama signed into law placing new restrictions on credit card companies; another 82 percent approve of the administrations work to extend unemployment benefits; and 68 percent approve of the tax cuts that were contained in the economic stimulus that was signed into law last year.
Americans approve of the entire stimulus package by a narrow 49 percent to 43 percent margin.
Overall, according to the poll, 48 percent believe the government is doing too many things, versus 43 percent who think it should be doing more things.
Thats a turnaround from the survey taken immediately after Obama became president, which found the public supporting a greater role in government, 51 percent to 40 percent.
The GOPs enthusiasm edge
Looking ahead to this years congressional midterm elections, the poll shows the Republican Party with a significant advantage in enthusiasm.
Sixty percent of Republicans express high interest in the November midterms, compared with only 44 percent of Democrats.
In addition, registered voters are split, 41 percent to 41 percent, over their preference for a Democratic- or a Republican-controlled Congress, which is the GOPs best showing on this question since Dec. 2003.
And voters who have a high interest in the midterms prefer Republicans by 15 points, 50 percent to 35 percent.
Still, the Republican Party continues to have a problem with its brand. Only 30 percent have a positive view of the GOP, and 42 percent have a negative view. (By comparison, the Democratic Party has a 38 percent to 41 percent positive/negative score.)
And a year after leaving office, George W. Bushs poll numbers are essentially unchanged: 30 percent see him in a positive light, versus 51 percent who view him negatively.
When he left office in January 2009, Bush held a 31 percent to 58 percent positive/negative rating.
in TX..lol,church.....
medicineman
New Member
The teabaggers got a victory, whooooeeee. Now all you libertarians and teabaggers can post up a full pot of bullshit. As the man said. It really doesn't matter who is in control (Which party), they are all crooks. The health care industry is in charge of health care. The banks are in charge of banks, the corporations are in charge of corporate rules etc. The politicians are no more than corporate lackeys, doing the bidding of the corporate moguls. Obama came to power with a promise to reign them in and failed, big time. He has sealed his own fate by caving in to the corporate structure. The people of Mass. already had a healthcare system and didn't feel like paying more for less, they disliked the "Obama" plan, which really wasn't the original "Obama" plan, but the senate plan. Why would they want to be forced to pay into a federal system when they already had one that worked? That and the fact that Coakley thought she had it in the bag and basically stopped campaigning. Is this a mandate for the teabaggers? I guess that will remain to be seen. I seriously hope the American people are not that stupid, but I've been fooled before, (Dubya 2 terms).
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Illegal Smile
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So democrats are now reduced to saying, "Yeah well... we might suck b-but.... they suck too!"
Big P
Well-Known Member
this guy is one sick fuck,
hes gonna try to fuck us for real, he is really one of those acorn nut jobs
destroy him or be destroyed
I think he doesnt care, I think he wants to fuck us all,
i didnt wanna believe it, who the fuck is this guy?
Obama to Nationalize $103 Billion Student Loan Industry...
Obama sticks to agenda...
Dems to lose 60-vote Senate supermajority...
Boehner: Dem leaders' 'arrogance' on health bill has 'the American people about ready to pull their hair out'...
hes gonna try to fuck us for real, he is really one of those acorn nut jobs
destroy him or be destroyed
I think he doesnt care, I think he wants to fuck us all,
i didnt wanna believe it, who the fuck is this guy?
Obama to Nationalize $103 Billion Student Loan Industry...
Obama sticks to agenda...
Dems to lose 60-vote Senate supermajority...
Boehner: Dem leaders' 'arrogance' on health bill has 'the American people about ready to pull their hair out'...
medicineman
New Member
Are you even old enough to vote? Your posts are so juvenile they lack reasonable response. Do you have a point other than democrats suck? Extremely idiotic response.
Big P
Well-Known Member
i thought it was great and compleatly explains your earlier post
i love that arguement as soon as you show them how fucked up thier liberal buddies are they turn around and say well well well you guys suck more than us lol
good comback medi seems that comback of yours is more of a childish remark
its like me telling you i found a syringe in my cokacola and will never drink it again and will only buy pepsi now
and you say well pepsi sucks cuz it has more calories
what would you rather have more calories or a syringe in your mouth?
ChChoda
Well-Known Member
i thought it was great and compleatly explains your earlier post
i love that arguement as soon as you show them how fucked up thier liberal buddies are they turn around and say well well well you guys suck more than us lol
good comback medi seems that comback of yours is more of a childish remark
its like me telling you i found a syringe in my cokacola and will never drink it again and will only buy pepsi now
and you say well pepsi sucks cuz it has more calories
what would you rather have more calories or a syringe in your mouth?
Med drinks Fresca...
medicineman
New Member
P, I realize you are a lost cause. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick. Same response every time, democrats and liberals suck. Look, I've said that both parties are culpable in the demise of our liberties, our rights, our general welfare. Your side blames the liberals for everything. Grow up. Politicians are tainted way before they ever reach national prominence. An honest man can not be elected in this society, Capitalism dictates that politicians must go along with the owners of the society or face defeat. Please feel free to prove me wrong. I seriously doubt you can. More than likely your response will be "Liberals and Democrats suck". Nice talking to ya, have a wonderful day.i thought it was great and compleatly explains your earlier post
i love that arguement as soon as you show them how fucked up thier liberal buddies are they turn around and say well well well you guys suck more than us lol
good comback medi seems that comback of yours is more of a childish remark
its like me telling you i found a syringe in my cokacola and will never drink it again and will only buy pepsi now
and you say well pepsi sucks cuz it has more calories
what would you rather have more calories or a syringe in your mouth?
medicineman
New Member
How the fuck old are you anyway, 14-15, or are you just retarded?
ChChoda
Well-Known Member
medicineman
New Member
Just saying, you accused me of drinking douche, pretty juvenile wouldn't you say? I doubt we could ever have an amiable conversation, I could be wrong. Being a liberal, I'm much more open to differing opinions. I will listen to them before commenting, but you've basically shown you don't want to converse, no dialogue, just one sided rhetoric.
Thanks Med...
Out, gotta go, peace.