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Why hate sellers?

Discussion in 'The Black Briefcase' started by doniboy, Jan 27, 2017.

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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    I guess I should move to a legal state and just grow huge quantities? Then export it like the mexicans used to do? That is what the govt strategy is telling me?
     
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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    I need to buy a harvesting machine, and then I can grow so much that I dont give a fuck anymore= rant over.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Or grow hemp.
     
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    greg nr

    greg nr Well-Known Member

    I think I heard that hemp flower was down to about $80/pound (from $800, in just a year). That's probably a combination of thousands of (new) acres in production and a lack of a developed market for the fibers.

    Once the market starts to consume it, both the prices and production will jump. But make no mistake, farming even a couple of hundred acres is a LOT of back breaking brutal work. Even for a crop as mechanized and automated as wheat, it's still a grueling business. Well, at least during prep, planting and harvest.

    Still, at $80/pound, farmers are making good money - if they can scale and automate. But it is farming, not growing.

    It's interesting that Mass allows hemp farming in it's legalization legislation, but I haven't heard boo about it. There is a lot of unused farm land here, and the growing season and weather would be good for it, but so far nobody is moving there (at least visibly).

    What't the federal stand on hemp? Is it still verbotten save for a few legacy farms?
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    it is wrong that you could be a felon for a plant. it's not wrong for state to allow it. it's wrong for yours not to. it's wrong that, in states that allow it, you can't get far into the legit business if you have a record. it's wrong that the legal market is organized for med sized big business through the way the laws are written and the capitalist environment it is partialy open to; giving rise to commercial grows by business entrepreneurs instead of dedicated qaulity producers. so you get pretendo quality flooding our market and illeagle quality weed goes else where. production is ramped up all around and 3 outa 5 people are shit so yo get more shit weed and more chem grown. leagalization needs to be full decriminalization and not these leagalization packages that hand weed over to big business.
     
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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    some fuckers are getting filthy rich. I didnt think that what this thing was about but im naive.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    It's the way our society is being run.

    Grow your own, don't contribute to the greed.
     
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    greg nr

    greg nr Well-Known Member

    Which is exactly why the greedy want to see us shut down. Who here has heard of one illegal grower turning another in so they could sell more? If they would do that, they surely wouldn't think for a moment about supporting efforts to re-criminalize home growing along with licensed producers and dispensaries.

    And people ask why they have a bad name.......
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    it's not what it's about but as long as people do get filthy rich, it should be designed for those who deserve it not who it is being handed to. esp when the ones it's being handed to want to push out those that deserve it who kept it high grade and care about the plant and have a personal stake in the culture/s instead of a business stake with a business mind and no real empathy. weed is currently being gentrified. mostly the new comers don't have the old quality but they are purchasing and essentially stealing the old genetics. they get the same killer cuts and they own authentic strains now. all this data shows the price going down but i get an oz of authentic quality for the same as ever if not more. at the same time there is cheaper and cheaper chronic available, i am seeing much of the exemplary bud priced at sucker prices, 400-500 oz. 20-25 a gram because these are businesses and there a people who literally seek out and insist on More Expensive Pot. that's a scam but so is capitalism. if you want to avoid this, be picky about how it's legalized and shop around, denying the scam shops your money, it takes 5-10 shops to find one that is above bard with at least both quality and pricee.
     
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    Father Ramirez

    Father Ramirez Well-Known Member

    I would suggest you find a new grocer. Big farm is interested only in yield/profit, and most chain grocery produce is as you described. But to malign all farmers is painting with a very broad brush.

    I know two real farmers, one fairly big and very wealthy, and one eeking out a living, but both take pride in the healthfulness and taste of their produce. The little guy is fully organic, and sells amazing veggies and eggs at fair prices. YUM!
    The big guy grows only a small portion organically because he could not sustain his farm if he were to change that equation because there is simply not enough demand for the higher priced produce, even if it is better tasting and more healthful.
     
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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    i dont hate big farmers, i hate when thy grow in a legal state and then send all the shit illegally in usps boxes over here. Thats fucked up. Yes its legal for you now, but dont be shipping it around like some drug cartel or its totally illegal. Sell it in your legal state.
     
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    abalonehx

    abalonehx Well-Known Member

    It should have never been made illegal in the first fucking place.

    Now Everybody in government, law enforcement, politics, judges, lawyers
    want their fucking cut legally if they can't make their blood money from it being illegal?
    Those are the people everyone should despise.
     
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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    it sucks that they turn legalized weed into a big business only proposition. its like beer but eventually with beer there is a resurgence in craft beer. But the big farms can put out dank too, unless in canada.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I voted to legalize in Colorado specifically to get the money aspect out of it.

    I'm still waiting for that to happen.
     
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    giglewigle

    giglewigle Well-Known Member

    idk im not lazy dont get me wrong i dont sell but if i was selling the best qualety pestaside free and all fuck working some shitty job u hate if i had the oputunity id sell fuck it i dont wanna be a rich cunt but if i can afford 2 buy the best equitment and pay my bills besides where im from a grade is rare as fuck i get its who u know but iv been smoking ten years only ever had mids so why not make a bit of cash im glad i found this thread tell me im wrong but i think its fucked if some one on here said thay sell not on here or any thing it would be autamaticlly asummed that there dicks but if it doas become legal id sell out of my house to mates but what some of youse said about cutting corners n stuff its true from where im sitting if ur meticulous and every things dielled in and done properly u wont need pesticides and shit becuse u wouldent have those problems to begin with or am i wrong idk
     
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    cookie master

    cookie master Well-Known Member

    bugs happen, its how you deal with them.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Without remorse...
     
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