why does government lie and commit fraud

kamonra

Member
Me and my wife had a child he is now 4years old, but before she got pregnant we were heavy marij smokers. I convinced her not to quite because she was pregnant . we didnt we smoke nearly 10-20 grams aday. My son was super healthy and very smart .. he is learning at a high rate higher than the other 4kids it seems.. those who the mom didnt smoke during pregnancy.. Mt argument was smoke couldnt harm the baby since the chemicals of marij was fead thrgh the ambilical cord thrgh blood ... how would smoke transfer to there and hurt the baby . I knew thc was good for us and the baby. It proved that it help the baby grow and learn etc..... the governement lies and commits fraud by saying marij is harmfull ... this was done not to prove the government was wrong but because marj is a religious tool i use .. and knew all along that marij helps you not hurts you ... period ... hiw can i sue the government for liying commiting fraud and not allowing me my freedom of religion. so any one expecting a baby .. dont stop smoking and make sure your wife smoke heavy .. it helps the baby not hurt the baby ........THE GOVERNMENT ARE BIGG LIERS AND ARE FRAUDULENT....
 

Thestinker

Active Member
the psychological effects could be passed on i dont how this can affect the baby but hey might just make it super tolerant to the herb
 

jimmy130380

Well-Known Member
sorry dude i like pot as much as the next guy
but you my friend are a jackass,
you would risk it and 4 years later say "hey honey ,told ya he would be fine"
gamble on ya own life not someone else retard
ps i dont normally write negative shit but in this case well there you go
pss tell me your not a Aussie from QLD
 

naturalhigh

Well-Known Member
its illegal not b/c of the smoking aspect. well at least in the 30s.. when the bs laws passed....however the hemp ...industry..paper ,plastic, oil, flower, fuel...clothing..the list goes on and on..the cotton growers back in the 30s realized this...with the invention of a mechanized reaper in the 20s to streamline the brake down of all its usfull things... it would of took en over cotton farms and taken money away from the cotton farmers.so they pooled all there money ...lobbied the newly formed DEA ..who was a cotton backer and they passed the hemp tax stamp law that didnt actual ban hemp/weed just made it so u have to have a tax stamp.
.to get this passed and hoe they did it without riots from all the hemp growers :they told them they would give them the stamps... however ..they did not give them the stamps.and over night hemp farming was made illegal..even though henry Ford had a hemp plasic car in 1941 and it ran on hemp oil...he envisioned the world running on clean fuel not oil base..then big business took over ..and there u have it... big pharma, big cotton, big lumber ( paper ) and now all the 800K people into the private prison systems soo all the prison companies cna make millions... plus to to mention 43 billion dollars a year the Government spends eradication it..... Its too big of a business and it effects too many of the ceo's pockets/ legislators .its one of the biggest conspiracies .. however its soon being realized..however 73 years later.... trillions of dollars wasted for a plant that is less harmfull then aspirin....

and while your ad it..watch the vid... below... weed cures cancer... now thats the BIGGEST reason... it actually attaches to cancer cells and kills them from within..and there has been medical studdies since the 50s.. but everying has been covered up and tossed aside and discredited..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7331006790306000271#
cannabis Cures Cancer - "Run From The Cure" The Rick Simpson Story


Rick Simpson Story After a serious head injury in 1997, Rick Simpson sought relief from his medical condition through the use of medicinal hemp oil. When Rick discovered that the hemp oil (with its high concentration of T.H.C.) cured cancers and other illnesses, he tried to share it with as many people as he could free of charge. When the story went public, the long arm of the law snatched the medicine - leaving potentially thousands of people without their cancer treatments - and leaving Rick with unconsitutional charges of possessing and trafficking marijuana!
 

kamonra

Member
see you believe the lies as well ... it wasnt a gamble i knew for a fact mar j helps not hurt ... and my child was at no risk ... in fact he has benifited greatly as he is more aware then my other 4 children wish i would have did the same but ultimately it was the mothers choice to smoke herb or not ... see the govt got 95% of the world believing marj is a drug ,.....first of all! MaryJj is not a socially corrosive drug. It is not even a drug.
drugs are altered by man. So they termed it "psycoactive change in the brain" Under this term they still can not say it is a drug. So they deemed it a controlled substance.
well! In church, if you catch the "holyghost" This is a form of psycoactive change in the brain.
In many religions, they require psycoactive states to be altered in order to have a greater expirience, understanding, and relationship with god.
It appears the Govt. has made a set of laws that would suggest they do not want us to have this greater expirience with god?
 

brianc01088

New Member
sorry dude i like pot as much as the next guy
but you my friend are a jackass,
you would risk it and 4 years later say "hey honey ,told ya he would be fine"
gamble on ya own life not someone else retard
ps i dont normally write negative shit but in this case well there you go
I second that! You are probably one of the people that give the marijuana scene a bad image.

Btw, thc is fat soluble and is past to your child through your sperm which is filled with fatty acids.
 
wait till your kid grows up and starts having health problems or develops a mental condition. At 4 years everything is still going fine because of the young age, give it 10-20 years and tell us how that kid is doing.
 

Brick Top

New Member
see you believe the lies as well ... it wasnt a gamble i knew for a fact mar j helps not hurt ...
You did not know for a fact that there would be no dangers to a developing fetus. Facts are things that have been proven to be true and you only assumed there would be no danger to a developing fetus and now are again assuming that there was no danger since you have not yet visibly spotted signs of any problem. Hopefully there will never be any signs of problems but regardless of what you want and need to believe you did gamble and your child was the chip you gambled with.
 

samtheham420

Active Member
You know, I know quite a few people that smoke weed during pregnancy b/c they had horrible morning sickness and couldn't ever eat, it helped their appetite and their babies are perfectly fine too;
In fact, they prescribe medical marijuana to pregnant women in some states to help with morning sickness.
The only health risks weed has when your pregnant is that it can make your child more prone to ear infections.
It really doesn't fuck with the baby.
But anything the mother takes in the baby does as well.
Smoking does get to your baby when you are pregnant, once weed enters your bloodstream, it passes through the umbilical chord onto the baby; that's how it works with other drugs even cigarettes too.
But truth be known, if it was so bad for babies, they wouldn't prescribe it to the mother.
 

kamonra

Member
the doctors says he's one of the most healthy kids around ....blood count , reaction, growth, and mental awareness,, you guys . if your really believe that it will harm my kid then you all need to stop smoking .. because abvious you dont know the purposes of mari j ......
IT IS A RELIGIOUS SACREMENT? IF WE AND CULTURES OF THE PAST USED IT FOR THAT PURPOSE DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT HAS ILL EFFECTS ..... YOU GUY ARE JUST DRUG ADDICTS AND GIVE MARIJ A BAD NAME I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THRGH THE SPERM I AM TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE MOTHERS INTAKE OF MARI J OH BY THE WAY ... I MADE SURE SHE DID NOT TAKE ANY PRENATEL VITAMINS .... THATS POISON ..... I ASK WHAT DID THE PEOPLE USE BEFORE WE HAD PRENATEL VITAMINS ... FINE SO WHY SHOULD I USE THE GOVERMENTS POISON .
 

kamonra

Member
Thanks for that post .. It is correct ... The government spreads lies and fear ... It is apparent in the responses
 

fourtwentychat

Well-Known Member
sorry dude i like pot as much as the next guy
but you my friend are a jackass,
you would risk it and 4 years later say "hey honey ,told ya he would be fine"
gamble on ya own life not someone else retard
ps i dont normally write negative shit but in this case well there you go
pss tell me your not a Aussie from QLD
Gonna have to agree with this as well. And as Mr. Brick Top said, you *did* gamble with your child's well-being, which makes me very sad. If you can accept that we are naturally built to reproduce, then perhaps introducing 10-20g of marijuana into the reproducer's body each day for 9 months may not be the smartest thing to do... If ever there was a call for some self control, I'd say these 9 months would be that one time.

The point is: I don't know. You don't know. Nobody knows...yet.

The post by samtheham makes me laugh: "But truth be known, if it was so bad for babies, they wouldn't prescribe it to the mother. " Who is "they?" A small subset of all the doctors in the world? Granted, I have my issues with most doctors, but this statement was just completely idiotic. Can we also apply that statement to prescription drugs prescribed to children "diagnosed" with ADHD?

"But truth be known, if it was so bad for children, they wouldn't prescribe it (ADHD drugs) to the child." Come on...tell me that just doesn't sound foolish, given all the side-effects that are blatantly stated.

I don't usually post my opinion, but this thread bothered me enough to do so. If I was the mother (maybe I am biased, because this is coming from a man's point of view), I would do everything in my control to maintain the absolute best health possible during this time period (avoiding even over-the-counter drugs and most foods).
 

kamonra

Member
Sir .. I knew for a fact that marij wouldNOT hurt .. And the word fact is a trick word among many in the english language .... If it cannoit be proven means it is not a fact , but a lot of things are fact that cannot be proven ... It is a religious sacrement .. Not a drug ... I knew smoke wouldnt hurt the child .. Smoke cannot reach the baby only the chemicals through the blood ....the thc , is a chemical designed to make you more aware and physcoconnected to god and the supreme being. That is a fact ... Just because you can not prove it is doesnt make it non-factual ....

People if you gonna smoke marij then know why you are smoking it ... Of course it seems recreational because connection with sun earth and the supreme being is fun and delightfull even if you dont know that is the reason ....... And i bet all of you despite our differences have no hate or racism in your hearts .....the non weed smokers a susceptibale to this ... Weed smokers have a hard time allowing hate , fear, and racism, to dwell within them so smoke on my brothers and sisters i love you all
 

samtheham420

Active Member
No problem=]
I have this debate a lot myself b/c my sis smoked with her baby too.
And my nephew is perfectly fine!
People just think it's bad b/c weed is considered a drug.
They don't know b/c they never experienced pregnancy most likely lol.
And trust me, if you were puking your guts out everyday you'd wanna get high too.
My sister's morning sickness was so bad she would cry and ask why it wouldn't stop and freak out lol.
It definitely does help more then it does hurt.
And it would be greatly appreciated if no one would make negative comments on my nephew or my sister.
I know a lot of mom's that did the same thing, and their babies are totally fine.
It sounds wrong, but it's really not so try not to hate, this dude is right; you can find articles everywhere all saying its okay and most mom's do it.
 

kamonra

Member
You guys its a vegitable it cant hurt me or the kids .... Only smoke can .... So i want to go to a vaporizer ...even study shows the smoke of marijuan clings to the part of the lungs that cause least amount of harm as tobacco smoke clings to the actuall air sacks in the lungs whcih cause shrinkage that hinders breathing ..... Weed also clings to cold viruses and other effects of the lungs, causes large mucous you can spit out .. Spit it out it is mari j cleaning the system out
 

Brick Top

New Member
IT IS A RELIGIOUS SACREMENT? IF WE AND CULTURES OF THE PAST USED IT FOR THAT PURPOSE DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT HAS ILL EFFECTS .....
Virgins were sacrificed in religious ceremonies in the past. Does that mean it was not harmful in any way because a religion said it was cool and the gang to do it? Was it not a case of murder sanctified by religions?

The thing is there are conflicting research findings and many of conflicting results among published studies on the effects of cannabis exposure are due to methodological problems in the measurement of neonatal outcomes and the context in which the research is conducted. Under such conditions virtually any results can be found but finding them under such conditions is not conclusive proof.

In some studies the exposed neonates showed better physiological stability and required less examiner facilitation to reach organized states. The neonates of heavy-marijuana-using mothers had better scores on autonomic stability, quality of alertness, irritability, and self-regulation and were judged to be more rewarding for caregivers. Other studies found the opposite to be true.

It is similar to the myth of global warming. There are two sides each performing research and each claiming their findings to be accurate and the others to be inaccurate. All anyone can do at this point is flip a mental coin and pick which they prefer to believe because conclusive proof does not seem to exist at this point in time and flipping a mental coin is still gambling.
 

kamonra

Member
Let them say what they want about your nephew ... They dont know ... These are the people who are the reason mar j is still illegal .. Because they believe nonsense .....its illogical to believe marj hurt you, a kid or anything else ... Name one instance where it hurt some one .... Never lol ....just dont mix it with chemicals like cocaine or alcohol which they can prove destroys the body .... And they can prove those reall drugs hurts .... Not the gods choosen vegatable .....it is a vegatable
 

kamonra

Member
See you reaching .. But first of all death is not bad .... It is a transformation ... You will be reborn in another body ready for your next life .. So sacrifice is not bad as they make it out to be .... And you cant compare smoking marj to death .. Because marj never killed any one ..... You guys are idiots trying your best to make me look silly when it only help the people who want it illegal ... Please stop smoking marj you give it a bad name
 
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