Why didn't other species evolve intelectually like we did?

Saltrock

Saltrock

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Crows can put nuts on the road for a car to break open, also octopus are very intelligent and have the ability to mimic on many levels. I am not sure if animals through time will be able to become as intelligent as humans. My feelings tell me that some could through time. One thing I think we can agree on, is that animals will keep adapting new habits to further there species. As for the OP, I am not sure when or why our species advanced on the scale we have and others didn't. I have a hard time believing that just protein and omega 3's was the key, when other species were eating the same things. Something went right. Do you you think we came from the water and separated from our marine relatives? or did our existence form in a puddle with a few cells?

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Mechanical

Mechanical

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This is our planet now.. We won the race and humans will not allow another species to evolve to our status. Mammals could not rule until dinasours were killed off because we were out matched. Humans killed off cavemen because they were a threat. If man died tomorrow a new species would evolve over time to rule. Would they turn into humans? Probably not.. Maybe something else. We are humans because of the factors in nature that caused our ancestors to evolve. Like Lucy (Australopithecus afarensis) evolved to walk on two legs over time because her landscape changed from a forest to a plain and it was easier to see over the tall grass for predators on two legs. Its all about mother nature:)
 
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ChesusRice

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Mechanical said:
This is our planet now.. We won the race and humans will not allow another species to evolve to our status. Mammals could not rule until dinasours were killed off because we were out matched. Humans killed off cavemen because they were a threat. If man died tomorrow a new species would evolve over time to rule. Would they turn into humans? Probably not.. Maybe something else. We are humans because of the factors in nature that caused our ancestors to evolve. Like Lucy (Australopithecus afarensis) evolved to walk on two legs over time because her landscape changed from a forest to a plain and it was easier to see over the tall grass for predators on two legs. Its all about mother nature:)
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desert dude

desert dude

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meechz 024 said:
Likes apes eventually mutated to human, why didn't other species at the time take such a big leap as we did?

Does anybody know the answer? I tried googling it and yahoo answers isn't cutting it, ever. So help me out on this one.
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One hypothesis is that only one intellectual beast will survive in an ecosystem. That's why Neanderthals went extinct, so the thinking goes.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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More intelligent cavemen killed less intelligent cavemen, resulting in a generation of slightly smarter cavemen... for 100's of thousands of years... eventually creating the homo sapien.
 
SnakeByte

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I think it was more like:
The stronger, more greedy, and homicidally driven cavemen that killed the other, weaker and apathetic cavemen...
Not necessarily about "intelligence"...

Oldest cave painting is around 40, 000 years old. A slight bit shorter than 100's of thousands...

Humans killed - humans (As it always has been and always will be)
They were all, human...

That last fact being the real point of all this.
Carry on.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Yes, i agree in a sense, but i think intelligence had a lot to do with it. Gaining the insight to create weapons, and to create fire.
 
SnakeByte

SnakeByte

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Yeeah... OR it was the "weaker" but naturally curious one that created the fire - then the bigger one clubbed him to death and took it cause he didn't understand how himself... lolol
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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There are so many theories waiting to be proven or debunked.. That's why you gotta love science:) Always the search for truth.
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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It's all about the brain. Physically speaking we are nothing compared to our ancestors. They would have beaten the shit out of our strongest men hand to hand. Even a woman back then could destroy most of today's men. Like someone just said we made better weapons so we win:)
 
DeeTee

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gioua said:
meat will lose protein once cooked however I think the theory had to do with them being able to carry cooked meat for longer days as per raw which went rancid quicker...
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I believe that cooking meat made it more possible for our bodies to absorb protein, am I right?, I myself just can't accept the theory that we evolved from apes.
 
mindphuk

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DeeTee said:
I believe that cooking meat made it more possible for our bodies to absorb protein, am I right?, I myself just can't accept the theory that we evolved from apes.
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Yep, cooking food makes digestion easier, not just protein. Less energy needed to digest, no more need for huge teeth and strong jaws. More energy available for other things including a bigger brain. Jaw muscles no longer needed to be attached high up on skull, allows for skull to increase in size to support bigger brain.

Curious, what do you think our ancestors were? Did you know we are still taxonomically considered apes? How do you explain the high degree of relatedness between us and chimpanzees, less relatedness between us and orangutans, etc? Do you think apes evolved from earlier forms of mammals?
 
DeeTee

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My problem is I believe in evolution, I can see it but when it comes to humans I'm afraid I'm one who believes in a higher up and that he created us out of nothing, I know, I know, here we go again, the God thing, but to say that we're just a product of evolution and that's all, we are a special species my theory is that if we think there is a God, there must be, otherwise we wouldn't wonder if there was, not sure if that makes sense, but that all I can hold on to.
 
mindphuk

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DeeTee said:
My problem is I believe in evolution, I can see it but when it comes to humans I'm afraid I'm one who believes in a higher up and that he created us out of nothing, I know, I know, here we go again, the God thing, but to say that we're just a product of evolution and that's all, we are a special species my theory is that if we think there is a God, there must be, otherwise we wouldn't wonder if there was, not sure if that makes sense, but that all I can hold on to.
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Why do you think he made us so similar to apes and mammals? Why not make us so different and unrelated to other species of animals? Why use the template of primates and merely make minor adjustments, but ones so ridiculously stupid like breathing, eating and drinking from the same hole so that hundreds die every year just from choking to death? A good designer would use the template of another mammal, the dolphin that breathes out of one hole and eats and drinks from a totally separate one. Why put the image gathering portion of our eye, the retina, behind the wiring making for a blind spot and the need to constantly move our eyes? Why not design us with octopus eyes which are like our cameras, the CCD is in front of the wiring? I can go on, but I think you see my point. If we really are different, the result of a god that could pretty much do anything, he could have done much better than merely modifying an ape-like creature. He could have started from scratch and made us better than anything that currently exists.

Wondering about whether there is a god or superior being that made us seems to be quite natural and could be considered common sense. Only in the last few hundred years of our existence did we have the knowledge and understanding that allows us to see beyond 'common sense.' Many of the things we find out in science goes against our common sense of how we think things should/could work. Why should this be any different?
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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Ive always wondered how people can believe in evolution but not for humans.. Do you think god created the many different homo species 1 by 1 or do you believe there was a first that god created even more ape like and they evolved to humans? As an atheist Im even ok with people saying that some god started the Big Bang and just let things play out but most of those people dont believe in a traditional type of god that judges or talks to everyone in their head.. The reason I ask is because people that believe in creationism USUALLY have never really thought about it deeply. They just go with the flow. Religion started from mind altering drugs and natural phenomena like earthquakes that couldn't be explained without science. Ground shakes and destroys things=must be something controlling that. Add mind altering drugs into the mix and you've got religion. Google "Sacred Poisons, Divine Rapture".. Talks about the influence of drugs on religion. Very interesting.
 
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