Why Auto?

tip top toker said:

No, it's not enough of a reason. This thread is about reasons why you would grow them. As in advantages over photo. I have no issue with you or anyone growing them because why not, but i certainly have an issue when someone is told to grow them instead of photo under some bullshit reasoning.

I was simply pointing out that there is still no reason to grow auto over photo, in that you can get that mild smoke from a photo, for far cheaper, and in terms of learning, there is absolutely no difference between phto and auto yet for some reaon people often try and harp on about how auto's are somehow eaier to grow.

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Have you ever grown or smoked an auto?
The autos I've grown are way better than the commercially grown stuff available here in Louisiana.

There are reasons for some to grow autos verses photos. These reasons are not good enough for me but for some folks the reasons are valid. Some people don't have the option to have a flower room without light leaks. Some people need to grow smaller plants. Some people don't care about yield. Some people want something fun to grow. Some people need the simplicity. Some people just like auto smoke. Some people like the novelty of it. The above reasons are not good enough for Polo to grow strictly autos but I'm Polo, not "some people".

ayr0n said:

To do a photo in the same time as an auto you'd have to run 12/12 from the start right? Is a 12/12 from seed photo going to yield the same as a 20/4 auto with all other conditions the same? It seems like 8 extra hours of light each day would produce a larger plant (ie; larger yield) and from what I've been reading there are quite a few autos out now that get just as potent as photos.

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I have seen 12/12 photo's from a respected member of this forum get half a pound. From everything i've seen, there are instances here or there of plants doing exceptionally well, and bad, from both types, but in general it seems that a 12/12 photo tends to be pretty much the same as an auto. But you also have to take into consideration the other costs associated with autos when looking at yield.

tip top toker said:

I'm not here trying to troll, i am always just very much intrigued to learn the apparent arguments that have swayed people to thinking there is a purpose for autoflowering plants indoors.

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Everyone values things differently. Nothing wrong with expressing what you as an individual do or don't value. Imposing your values on others (i.e., that "there's absolutely no reason," or "apparent arguments") may indicate why you felt the need to preface your remarks as not being trolling.

polo the don said:

Have you ever grown or smoked an auto?
The autos I've grown are way better than the commercially grown stuff available here in Louisiana.

There are reasons for some to grow autos verses photos. These reasons are not good enough for me but for some folks the reasons are valid. Some people don't have the option to have a flower room without light leaks. Some people need to grow smaller plants. Some people don't care about yield. Some people want something fun to grow. Some people need the simplicity. Some people just like auto smoke. Some people like the novelty of it. The above reasons are not good enough for Polo to grow strictly autos but I'm Polo, not "some people".

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Your first statement is absolutely irrelevant. you're trying to make an argument using home grown and commercial. Ok...

And ok, you got me, there is a case for auto's where people are too fucked up in life to even be able to buy a second hand wardrobe or any other easy way to create a light proof grow cabinet. But other than that, again, i see no valid reasoning. They are not more fun, that's just daft, the time difference is pretty small depending on strains, photo's can be grown any size you want, if you don't care about yield then you'd just buy one of the low yield killer photos that autos cant compare to, and thats simply the way it is, autos cant touch top end photos, photos are no more simple to grow unless you consider changing a timer once to be complicated, and as to the novelty, sure, but then you wouldnt make a thread about it, because as a novelty it doesnt really matter that much.

Sigh.

tip top toker said:

I have seen 12/12 photo's from a respected member of this forum get half a pound. From everything i've seen, there are instances here or there of plants doing exceptionally well, and bad, from both types, but in general it seems that a 12/12 photo tends to be pretty much the same as an auto. But you also have to take into consideration the other costs associated with autos when looking at yield.

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Sure you can cherry pick an exceptionally rare case...strong argument. All I know is I'm finishing up my first grow, which happens to be autos, and I'm going to pull roughly 8oz out of a 32"x32" tent in less than 80 days from seed. I'm happy with that on my first attempt...As for the potency, that's up in the air until I cure it but from the looks of it I won't be disappointed. No one here is saying autos are BETTER than photos, but to completely count them out would be pretty close minded.

People need to quit talking shit about autos if you have never grown them.. How about I talk shit about you? I don't know you? But anyways autos are fun to watch.. I am growing some just to have fun with.. So amazing how fast they grow.. But after this grow I won't do them again.. But do grow at least them once!

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polo the don said:

Have you ever grown or smoked an auto?

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I ask again ^^^

Good Thread

I'm growing my first 12/12 now. Just for fun, which is how I do a lot of my growing.

Since an auto isn't some man made genetic experiment, I'd really like to give one a try.

I like to play around with breeding too which raises a question.What happens when you cross a photo with an auto? What will the seeds do?

Michiganja Meduana said:

I like to play around with breeding too which raises a question.What happens when you cross a photo with an auto? What will the seeds do?

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I don't think one breeding would be enough to establish a trait. You'd probably get a random probability that it might require a reduction of light to trigger flower. Or, it might retain it's "auto" characteristic but be taller. It would take a number of successive selections to get a predictable trait.

I think that's some of the complaint about autos being small, impotent or sometimes needing "help" to flower. I wish seedbanks would indicate how long the strain has been developed. Just one strain marketed too soon taints opinions, adds credibility to complaints from the early days of autos.

I've only grown Northern Storm Auto (marijuana-seeds.nl) and am very pleased with it. I would only buy a strain that another experienced autogrower has liked. (Either here, or there is a forum dedicated to autos: autoflower.net).

Big reason autos are so popular is because they are nearly fool-proof. I usually have one or 2 autos going in my veg room at all times. They don't require any knowledge or more than one light. I agree they tend to be smaller with a single cola. I've tried FIMing and topping autos and don't recommend it. You may get 3 or 4 colas but they will be so much smaller you wonder if they are worth the trouble. BigSteve.

I would have to completely agree with this statement. I think some of the comments are coming from guys who tried older auto strains or haven't tried autos Ina few years. I grew some Auto Blue Pyramids and they were pretty good I must admit,mthey were not premo, but I'd say pretty close, think I got 2oz from them too.

az2000 said:

2. I hear people say it's weaker high.

- But, my friends with high tolerances say it's some of the strongest they've had. We notice no difference between it and the photosensitives I grow. (I've read that early genetics were weak. Maybe something's changed as genetics improved?).​

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bigsteve said:

I've tried FIMing and topping autos and don't recommend it. You may get 3 or 4 colas but they will be so much smaller you wonder if they are worth the trouble.

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I LST (bend over) the main cola and any other tall branches to get a uniform height. I'm in a 4' tall tent with 3gal containers, leaving little distance between canopy and light. The main cola is always the biggest one, growing a bit curved due to being bent over. But, the other 5-8 colas are pretty large too. I wouldn't say they're *much* smaller. Maybe 30% smaller.

Just my two cents but outdoors in my area they make a good choice if their quick and good. I am doing my first grow of Pandora. BUT!!!!! Some aren't quick or good. they are now 12 weeks from seed and yup pretty much done. A photo here, again a quick one would be done in 4 weeks so saved a month and was expecting them to be done at 10. The benifit of this is no planes flying yet, no theaves out yet, and if planned properly, two crops. Indoors I'm not sure what would be a plus.