why are you, you and me, me?

olylifter420

olylifter420

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i dont feel bitter about science... i just wish we could find these things out and maybe make a better world for the future. i hate philosophy, well maybe cause my professor was an iranian woman who was a woman's rights activist and hated all kinds of dicks...

fucking bitch...

happy birth date to you all...4/20...



Heisenberg said:
Oly, don't feel bitter about science because of this. Science is not equipped to answer your question as it is stated, and it doesn't pretend to be, so it has made no progress on this front. I think you want to be looking to philosophy studies rather than science.

I've asked myself these questions many times and came up with nothing. Eventually I decided it was like asking why I didn't get a better hand in poker. Although it would be interesting to know, the knowledge really wouldn't have much bearing on how I play the hand I have.
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cannabineer

cannabineer

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RawBudzski said:
I have had serious brain block lately, so as it has been remarkably sunny I decided to collect all of the mirrors from the house as well as from the houses of a few of my neighbors -( I’m sure they won’t mind) and piled them in my back garden in a concave assembly [con-cave, think of a cave, damp and dark and internal; con-vex, think of Lex Luther, whose head was shiny and protuberant and bulging and round and evil]. I wrapped myself in muslin from toe to neck to prevent sun blisters. I caked my face in putty and put packing tape over my glasses to avoid going blind. Then I crawled into the mirrored structure and curled up into a ball. Sun is very good for the thinking.
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Now when I think of "getting baked", much less effort is involved. cn
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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olylifter420 said:
i really like what you are saying neer, but how can a scientist reproduce what a believer felt the day they met God or became enlightened in a laboratory? you just cant do that... why cant "randomness" be used to prove God or help the cause? why is only randomness used in science?

and as for the conclusion, if get what you are saying correctly, are you saying that science can always go back and change something if it does not fit the mold per se?

if so, then why do some atheists always cry that, "why read a book that has always been changed" fallacy, yet science can?
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Oly, to your first question: randomness has the very intriguing property of removing the *need* for will, intention or design in the formation of reality's fabric (the parts we can sense).

To the second: yes. Science will reshape itself to accommodate an inconvenient fact. Fact is supreme; theory must bow to fact.

To the third: a bit tougher. The "book" of science is allowed that because the "book" can be rebuilt from scratch using only open eyes and sharp minds to gather the facts. No religion that I've encountered permits that option ... there is always a core of doctrine that is beyond negotiation, and beyond the reach of natural philosophy, since its factuality cannot be established or dismissed using the tools of the scientist. One either subscribes ... or doesn't. cn
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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olylifter420 said:
Hello guys and gals...

been a while that i have posted on here... too much HATE goes around and thats bad for the soul...

just a simple question,

why are you, you?

and why am i, me?

I dont accept that it is just a random act as many on here say about the planets and what not...


Why were you born to your mother and not mine?

Those are things i think about now cause all the talks on here sparked my interest to see...


i have also come to the point where i believe religion, not our beliefs are what is the problem. I know some beliefs are heavily influenced by ones' religion, but why hold on to a religion that has done more harm then good.=?

I still believe in God and Jesus Christ, I just HATE religion and any religious zealot.



Has science found the answer to why you are born as you and i was born as myself... or the fact that we were born in the USA rather then a dictator commy fucking country such as china...


anyone interested in a good discussion have at it...

any dickheads, well, keep being dickheads. i dont care...:blsmoke::blsmoke:
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It is simply out of reach. Only the New Age religion would make claims that seem to answer this question. Science says it is genetic and I agree with that. Even if the number of genetic possibilities is finite, that only contributes half of what makes you, you. The experiences that you have are yours. The possibilities are endless.

Be very careful about searching too vigorously for evidence of a 'soul'. That path has been traveled many times. The earliest prominent intellectual who devoted himself to this was Descartes and most western philosophy has in one way or another been in response to his ideas. He performed vivisection on animals to try to find the "seat of the soul" and discovered the pineal gland in so doing. His question remains unanswered.

My point is, accept your gift, you cannot know (at least currently) from whence it came to be, but you may cherish it nonetheless. Life is what you make it.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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olylifter420 said:
Hello guys and gals...

been a while that i have posted on here... too much HATE goes around and thats bad for the soul...

just a simple question,

why are you, you?

and why am i, me?

I dont accept that it is just a random act as many on here say about the planets and what not...


Why were you born to your mother and not mine?

Those are things i think about now cause all the talks on here sparked my interest to see...


i have also come to the point where i believe religion, not our beliefs are what is the problem. I know some beliefs are heavily influenced by ones' religion, but why hold on to a religion that has done more harm then good.=?

I still believe in God and Jesus Christ, I just HATE religion and any religious zealot.



Has science found the answer to why you are born as you and i was born as myself... or the fact that we were born in the USA rather then a dictator commy fucking country such as china...


anyone interested in a good discussion have at it...

any dickheads, well, keep being dickheads. i dont care...:blsmoke::blsmoke:
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you were born to your mother because you lived inside her since she developed eggs, your dad had sex with your mom and you were the lucky egg. jesus was a person, dont know about all the resurrections and it but he did exist im pretty sure, he just had some good stuff to say. mary wasnt a virgin either, no such thing as asexual reproduction in humans. but, god however, is just a name we use to describe a larger being. i believe in this but there is no proof.
 
abandonconflict

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crazyhazey said:
you were born to your mother because you lived inside her since she developed eggs, your dad had sex with your mom and you were the lucky egg. jesus was a person, dont know about all the resurrections and it but he did exist im pretty sure, he just had some good stuff to say. mary wasnt a virgin either, no such thing as asexual reproduction in humans. but, god however, is just a name we use to describe a larger being. i believe in this but there is no proof.
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Jesus Christ
Bearded prophet of the meek and early archetype of the 1960s hippie. Jesus was born Jewish, but then converted to Dudeism after he realized that the Romans and the Pharisees were fucking fascists. Today lots of people think he’s the son of the guy who created the universe and that our life is in his hands. But probably he was just a dude who thought people should mellow out and stop getting so worked up about stuff. Sadly, few of his followers seem to actually realize that. Remember: There’s not a literal connection.

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Copy/paste from http://dudeism.com/ (where I received my ordination)
 
abandonconflict

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cannabineer said:
Actually the operation of random chance in the universe and our lives is an article of my faith. I really do believe that a lot of the time, it is dumb luck without there being a reason or a plan. But that is (of course) a personal belief. cn
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That is what makes this life so wonderful and truly a gift. Nothing in our futures have yet been determined.
 
crazyhazey

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abandonconflict said:
Jesus Christ
Bearded prophet of the meek and early archetype of the 1960s hippie. Jesus was born Jewish, but then converted to Dudeism after he realized that the Romans and the Pharisees were fucking fascists. Today lots of people think he’s the son of the guy who created the universe and that our life is in his hands. But probably he was just a dude who thought people should mellow out and stop getting so worked up about stuff. Sadly, few of his followers seem to actually realize that. Remember: There’s not a literal connection.

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Copy/paste from http://dudeism.com/ (where I received my ordination)
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exactly, people made a way of life out of his ideology, they shouldnt spend their life praising him or wearing crosses, he said wearing crosses is bad im pretty sure. you dont have to be christian to know a person like jesus existed, but stories get twisted over long periods of time, its basically a big game of telephone.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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abandonconflict said:
That is what makes this life so wonderful and truly a gift. Nothing in our futures have yet been determined.
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I'm on a nice healthy dose of mushrooms and i say, that this thread is the fuckin shiiiit! and it made me laugh a bunch, and all you guys are fuckin awesome people! And i really like what CN and Conflict said, and pretty much everyone else too.

I dont know why i am me, but i guess it doesn't really matter if you know how to make yourself laugh and enjoy life to the fullest. Man i went on a bike ride today, and this dude was sitting on his porch with this electric tool, and i went up and was like, whatsup man! what ya doin? and he was carving these mushrooms, you know, the ones you pick out in the woods MORELLS! Yeah dude had this wood carving tool and he was making the top ends of some wooden sticks into staffs with a mushroom on top. I asked dude, well i remember his name it was Chuck, i asked him why he was doing that, and he said because it gives him peace of mind... and i said sweeeeeeet, and i peaced out with a happy wave. I guess moral of the story is, when you see someone sitting alone just try to go up and talk to them, you never know what interesting things you might find! Happy fuckin 4/20
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Zaehet Strife said:
I'm on a nice healthy dose of mushrooms and i say, that this thread is the fuckin shiiiit! and it made me laugh a bunch, and all you guys are fuckin awesome people! And i really like what CN and Conflict said, and pretty much everyone else too.

I dont know why i am me, but i guess it doesn't really matter if you know how to make yourself laugh and enjoy life to the fullest. Man i went on a bike ride today, and this dude was sitting on his porch with this electric tool, and i went up and was like, whatsup man! what ya doin? and he was carving these mushrooms, you know, the ones you pick out in the woods MORELLS! Yeah dude had this wood carving tool and he was making the top ends of some wooden sticks into staffs with a mushroom on top. I asked dude, well i remember his name it was Chuck, i asked him why he was doing that, and he said because it gives him peace of mind... and i said sweeeeeeet, and i peaced out with a happy wave. I guess moral of the story is, when you see someone sitting alone just try to go up and talk to them, you never know what interesting things you might find! Happy fuckin 4/20
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I love a story with a morel to it. cn
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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Zaehet Strife said:
I'm on a nice healthy dose of mushrooms and i say, that this thread is the fuckin shiiiit! and it made me laugh a bunch, and all you guys are fuckin awesome people! And i really like what CN and Conflict said, and pretty much everyone else too.

I dont know why i am me, but i guess it doesn't really matter if you know how to make yourself laugh and enjoy life to the fullest. Man i went on a bike ride today, and this dude was sitting on his porch with this electric tool, and i went up and was like, whatsup man! what ya doin? and he was carving these mushrooms, you know, the ones you pick out in the woods MORELLS! Yeah dude had this wood carving tool and he was making the top ends of some wooden sticks into staffs with a mushroom on top. I asked dude, well i remember his name it was Chuck, i asked him why he was doing that, and he said because it gives him peace of mind... and i said sweeeeeeet, and i peaced out with a happy wave. I guess moral of the story is, when you see someone sitting alone just try to go up and talk to them, you never know what interesting things you might find! Happy fuckin 4/20
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i would have asked for a mushroom staff. haha
 
Zaehet Strife

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crazyhazey said:
i would have asked for a mushroom staff. haha
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Man i was going to, but then i thought... hmmm, im acting pretty fuckin excited about these staffs, if he wanted to give one away hed probably had offered it to me by now... so i decided against it, because that might have put him in the awkward position of having to either say yes when he didnt want to, or no and feel like he had to explain himself. I know, when im on mushrooms i think waaaaayyy too much.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Zaehet Strife said:
Man i was going to, but then i thought... hmmm, im acting pretty fuckin excited about these staffs, if he wanted to give one away hed probably had offered it to me by now... so i decided against it, because that might have put him in the awkward position of having to either say yes when he didnt want to, or no and feel like he had to explain himself. I know, when im on mushrooms i think waaaaayyy too much.
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Return once your main gear has kissed the runway, and see if you can buy one. Good karma all around. cn
 
crazyhazey

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Zaehet Strife said:
Man i was going to, but then i thought... hmmm, im acting pretty fuckin excited about these staffs, if he wanted to give one away hed probably had offered it to me by now... so i decided against it, because that might have put him in the awkward position of having to either say yes when he didnt want to, or no and feel like he had to explain himself. I know, when im on mushrooms i think waaaaayyy too much.
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i know what you mean, you like think out how all your words like effect how people feel. mushrooms make me too aware of shit as well. i would have ask how much he'd sell one for haha
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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crazyhazey said:
i know what you mean, you like think out how all your words like effect how people feel. mushrooms make me too aware of shit as well. i would have ask how much he'd sell one for haha
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For real i thought about that too, but then i patted my back pocket, and realized i dont have any of that green paper stuff to give to him. I will go back though when i get some paper and see if he will trade it for that freakin SWEET staff!
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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Zaehet Strife said:
For real i thought about that too, but then i patted my back pocket, and realized i dont have any of that green paper stuff to give to him. I will go back though when i get some paper and see if he will trade it for that freakin SWEET staff!
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that would bum me out haha although walking is really enjoyable when your on shrooms, walking a few blocks seems like 2 minutes to me hahahaha.
and take a pic if you get that staff, that shit would be sweet. should dip it in glow in the dark paint :shock:
just an idea.
 
abandonconflict

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Why are you, you and why am I me?

I consider the analogy I once heard, that if Mahatma Gandhi had been born in Hitler's place and vise versa, that Gandhi would have been the fascist and Hitler the voice of peace.

I say, if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.
 
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