who's tired of winning?

cool2burn

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CBO says ACA and AHCA are not "death spirals" and thus not "failing." But Republicans will continue to try to undermine it in other ways. Trump couldn't help himself, he already said Dems "own Obamacare now" yet he and Republicans have complete legislative control, can't come up with anything better, and have repeatedly pledged to undermine Obamacare in every way possible. How is that leadership or fuckin' MAGA?

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/americanhealthcareact_0.pdf
Again then explain why almost all insurance carriers already pulled out before Trump was even elected? It doesn't really matter with the CBO says it matters what the markets doing. And all indications say it's going to fail
 

dagwood45431

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They do not have to do anything it is already failing the insurance companies were pulling out long before Trump was elected.
This is too complex for you to understand, but let's give it a shot anyway. Conservative asshole governors refused to expand eligibility for medicaid in their states (with 100% federal funding for the first three years, and 90% thereafter). This was a key component of the plan and Republican jackals won an argument before the SC which ruled that states couldn't be compelled to do so. They did this out of spite and spite alone. This was in conjunction with seven years of other attempts to destroy ACA instead of looking at ways to improve it. You fucktards own the problems with ACA and we'll make sure your lame RWNJ talking points don't obfuscate what you skidmarks on society have done. You really are too mind numbingly stupid for words. You are shamefully stupid.
 

cool2burn

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This is too complex for you to understand, but let's give it a shot anyway. Conservative asshole governors refused to expand eligibility for medicaid in their states (with 100% federal funding for the first three years, and 90% thereafter). This was a key component of the plan and Republican jackals won an argument before the SC which ruled that states couldn't be compelled to do so. They did this out of spite and spite alone. This was in conjunction with seven years of other attempts to destroy ACA instead of looking at ways to improve it. You fucktards own the problems with ACA and we'll make sure your lame RWNJ talking points don't obfuscate what you skidmarks on society have done. You really are too mind numbingly stupid for words. You are shamefully stupid.
This is too complex for you to understand, but let's give it a shot anyway. Conservative asshole governors refused to expand eligibility for medicaid in their states (with 100% federal funding for the first three years, and 90% thereafter). This was a key component of the plan and Republican jackals won an argument before the SC which ruled that states couldn't be compelled to do so. They did this out of spite and spite alone. This was in conjunction with seven years of other attempts to destroy ACA instead of looking at ways to improve it. You fucktards own the problems with ACA and we'll make sure your lame RWNJ talking points don't obfuscate what you skidmarks on society have done. You really are too mind numbingly stupid for words. You are shamefully stupid.
No the problem is healthy people are not signing up in numbers to support the subsidies. Most find it cheaper to just pay the penalty. ACA can never work because they are trying to force people to buy it. And as evidence has shown most thumb their nose at that.
 

cool2burn

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"All insurance carriers" DIDN'T pull out per the report. Read the above posts. What aren't you getting?
Your right there are a couple left with plans to pull out. Either way it does not matter again there is no supply of cash to supply the subsidies.
 

PCXV

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Your right there are a couple left with plans to pull out. Either way it does not matter again there is no supply of cash to supply the subsidies.
But "rebuilding our military" means we have the money to add $52 Billion to $600 Billion? GDP $15 Trillion but we don't have the resources to provide the most important thing to every human being - health - ? Not even the resources for catastrophic so one bad test result doesn't ruin your life? You've got to be kidding me.
 

UncleBuck

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But "rebuilding our military" means we have the money to add $52 Billion to $600 Billion? GDP $15 Trillion but we don't have the resources to provide the most important thing to every human being - health - ? Not even the resources for catastrophic so one bad test result doesn't ruin your life? You've got to be kidding me.
he's just happy so long as he gets his welfare check and socialized government health care (also on our dime, of course).
 

ttystikk

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But "rebuilding our military" means we have the money to add $52 Billion to $600 Billion? GDP $15 Trillion but we don't have the resources to provide the most important thing to every human being - health - ? Not even the resources for catastrophic so one bad test result doesn't ruin your life? You've got to be kidding me.
These are selfish, greedy, evil people and their time is coming.
 

cool2burn

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but only because the GOP is withholding the funding that would keep them in.

so again, if they leave, you're not complaining, you're bragging about breaking an otherwise working system by not funding it.
Im not bragging im just pointing out this was happening before Trump was elected. Trump just removed the mandate which i agree with trying to force people who do not want insurance to buy it or face a penalty is just wrong.
 

whitebb2727

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Im not bragging im just pointing out this was happening before Trump was elected. Trump just removed the mandate which i agree with trying to force people who do not want insurance to buy it or face a penalty is just wrong.
Why is wrong? A dumbass decides they don't want insurance and get hurt or sick and then goes to the er. Who is stuck paying the bill if they don't? Tax payers.
 
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