Smoothkicksandsmoke
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I see em too. Looking very nice there Who. That second batch is surprisingly bigger.
WhoDat back at it.
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whodatnation
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Day 12
They got their tea today
I diluted the leftover and applied it as a foliar feed.
Topped two of em'.
Blue Pits looking like real plants again!
They got their tea today
I diluted the leftover and applied it as a foliar feed.
Topped two of em'.
Blue Pits looking like real plants again!
whodatnation
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Damn son, you're almost ready to up pot. When're you going to start your mainline?
I was just looking at the mainline thread
He does it after the plants have already sexed and about 7 inches tall. I would also like to do it after sexing so I dont slow them down at all... BUT I dont plan on taking any clones this go around (may shut down for the summer but I change my mind daily on that) so I dont want to wast too much time growing stuff that will be cut off.... Its kinda hard to explain my lil dilemma..... Lets just say I'll start mainlining as soon as I can.?.?.?.?
I'll start sexing them in five or so days, then I'll transplant all females into either one gallons or their final 3 gallon containers... Havnt decided yet.
A solution has come to me since starting this post! lol
What I think I'll do is build a veg in the same building and save some extra females just incase I decide I want to do another run after this.... Then the next grow will either be big plants in big containers, or a whole gang of clones in one gallons flowered soon after rooting.
Fuck, so many options.... I'll decide on something eventually lol
Just wanted to throw this out~~~~ checked the roots
they are looking great and not afraid of that supersoil one bit! (I put a SMALL handful at the bottom of each cup.)EDIT: That'll teach you never to ask me a question again! lol
EDIT EDIT for your EDIT lol
Pictures are worth a thousand words so I'll save you some time seeing as I already wasted a bunch of it
Short answer,,, as soon as I can.
Im shooting for a little something like this
But really I'll be training as soon as I feel its safe to... I have a total of five feet in hight.From the mainlining thread~~~~
Bobotrank
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Fook, that's right, I totally forgot about sexing. I'm so used to clones, lol. I need to go back and read again. I almost unsub'd from that thread just because of all the garble at the end. What a dismal ending to a jewel of a source for info.
I think with mine I'll prolly go 1 gallons first. Are you planning on trying to supplement feeding in those 3 gallons at some point?
I think with mine I'll prolly go 1 gallons first. Are you planning on trying to supplement feeding in those 3 gallons at some point?
whodatnation
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Yeah, a shitty ending to a great thread,,, fucking riu troll cunts.
I'll be giving them teas seing as it worked so fking good last run with this same batch of SS... But they will need it more because unfortunately I'll be cutting my SS with base..... Never enough supersoil
(second though, IDK WTF Im worried about, I got enough lol)Next run I'll be supercharging my compost to make my very own soil. I'll post the lab results when the time comes.
Bobotrank
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I'm thinking of running with the 7 gallon smarties for my next round of mainlines... are you trying to pull more from a smaller footprint, hence the 3 gallons? For some reason I thought you were running bigger pots than that. And you pulled 8 zips from one? foook. That was with CO2?
My goal is to keep my feeding to a minimum... but I like the prospect of more​.
puff puff pass xj
My goal is to keep my feeding to a minimum... but I like the prospect of more​.
puff puff pass xj
whodatnation
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I'll be using three gallons because I dont have the luxury of veging longer, no use in using big pots with small plants... I need to get this crop done asap... Hoping to chop mid april
And yeah that 8oz from 3 gallon was from co2 but honestly Iv done just about the same without supplemental co2.
Don Gin and Ton
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Cups and cups and more cups your 7-11 must think you throw mad parties whodat!
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hmasonb34
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Day 12
They got their tea today
Topped two of em'.
Blue Pits looking like real plants again!
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I keep hearing you speak of this tea you brew. Im very interesed in the process. What does it consist of the benefits of it how to do it please if you dont mind could you send me to a link discribing the process and benefits of it.
Oh great looking plants by the way maybe one day ill produce like that.
209 Cali closet grower
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[video=youtube;5DL3Z28bU5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DL3Z28bU5M[/video]
209 Cali closet grower
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lol, that space is going to fill up quick
hmasonb34
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what the hell was that?
Bobotrank
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There are some great tea threads on RIU, hmason. If you search AACT inside the search window on RIU you'll come up with some golden sources from the Organics section... hold on, I bet I can find it even without my morning coffee.
edit: Here, check this out. Should answer all your questions. https://www.rollitup.org/organics/516845-aact-bloom-tea-veg-tea.html
Different teas do different things. . . this is just the tip of the iceberg, and probably doesn't even go that in depth in regards to the benefits. Essentially they help keep your plant, and your roots stay healthy and fight off pests, all the while giving them food and helping to build up the right bacterial colonies in your soil. Or something. Tons of RIU threads on this subject. Start reading
I know whodat likes one of those first recipes in there Whoa... that was... amazing.
Smoothkicksandsmoke
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So the main-lining has started... It's looking great man. I'm considering trying the main-lining as well, but I'm not trying to take on too much at once being an absolute novice.Day 12
They got their tea today
Topped two of em'.
Blue Pits looking like real plants again!
I think I'm with G on this one. Then again what do I know I'm the rookie. But are you going to reveg after sexing?
whodatnation
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Besides page one he gives a really nice tutorial again towards the end of page 58 (40 posts a page)
No need to sex clones once you find the gender of the donor plant,,, bobo,, your thinking too much lol.
You have no idea don lol I probably have over a thousand party cups in stock.
Iv been brewing a tried and true guano kelp recipe tea for three years now....
Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.
Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
[h=2]Understanding beneficial soil inoculum as 'compost tea' and it's role in establishing a healthy 'foodweb'[/h][h=3]Why Use Compost Tea?[/h]Sustainable plant health and plant production depends on specialized relationships with beneficial soil microbes. With this in mind, compost tea is used for two reasons: To inoculate highly diverse beneficial species of microbial life into the soil or onto the foliage of plants, and to add soluble nutrients to the foliage or to the soil in order to feed the organisms and the plants present.
The use of compost tea is suggested any time the organisms in the soil or on the plants are not at optimum levels. Chemical-based pesticides, fumigants, herbicides and many synthetic fertilizers kill a range of the beneficial microorganisms that encourage plant growth, while compost teas improve the life in the soil and on plant surfaces. High quality compost tea will inoculate the leaf surface and soil with beneficial microorganisms, instead of destroying them.
[h=3]What Is Compost Tea?[/h]Compost tea is a liquid inoculum produced by leaching soluble nutrients and extracting bacteria, fungi, protozoa and nematodes from compost. The compost tea brewing process can be likened to brewing beer or wine and, like these same processes, requires care and the right tea-making equipment.
When these are present, making compost tea that will help your plants becomes as easy as flipping a light switch. If you want to inoculate a highly beneficial group of bacteria and fungi, protozoa and possibly nematodes, you can buy or make a high quality inoculum compost that has these organisms, and make Actively Aerated Compost Tea. Compost tea is a soil inoculum that helps to ensure that the needs of productive plants are met throughout their productive life.
[h=3]Benefits of using of compost tea[/h]Improved plant growth as a result of protecting plant surfaces with beneficial organisms which occupy infection sites and prevent disease-causing organisms from attacking the plant.
Improved plant growth as a result of improving nutrient retention in the soil, and therefore reducing the need for fertilizer use. Beneficial soil biology substantially reduces the loss of nutrients out of the root zones and into groundwater.
Improved plant nutrition by increasing nutrient availability in the root system as predator-prey interactions increase plant available nutrients in exactly the right place, time and amounts that the plant needs.
Reduces the negative impacts of chemical-based pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers on beneficial microorganisms in the ecosystem.
Improves uptake of nutrients by increasing foliar uptake as beneficial microorganisms increase the time that stomates stay open, while at the same time reducing evaporative loss from the leaf surface in adverse conditions.
Reduces water loss, improves water-holding in the soil, and thus reduce water use in your system.
Reduces tillage by building better soil structure. Only the biology builds soil structure, and ALL the groups in the foodweb are required to be successful. You cant have just bacteria, you must have fungi, protozoa, nematodes and microarthropods as well! Please be aware that plate count methods dont tell you about the whole foodweb.
[h=3]What Is In Compost Tea (microbial inoculum)?[/h]Tea contains all the soluble nutrients extracted from the compost plus additional microbe foods, as well as contains all the species of bacteria, fungi, protozoa and nematodes in the compost. Not all the individuals in the compost, but representatives of all the species in the compost are found in the compost tea. Making sure only beneficial species are present in the compost is therefore critical.
Foods extracted from the compost or added to the tea grow beneficial organisms. A large diversity of foods and organisms are extracted from compost. The beneficial bacteria and fungi growing on the compost foods, along with the added specific microbe foods, results in growing many individuals of many different species. Molecular diversity analysis is required, however, to assess even a small portion of the species present in compost tea.
Only aerobes are desired. Anaerobes make alcohols that kill plant tissues very rapidly. Putrifying organic matter, which is anaerobic, also contains organisms, many which are not beneficial for your plants or your soils.
[h=3]The Method Is Critical In Making Tea[/h]In order to have the organisms in the tea, brewing conditions must be correct. 
The biology that is active and performing a function will be very different, depending on:
- Temperature of brewing
- The foods added to the brew
- Oxygen concentrations in the brewer during production
- The initial compost used, and therefore which species are present to be extracted (highly diverse inoculum compost is a pre-requisite to highly diverse compost tea)
- The length of time tea is brewed
[h=3]Foods[/h]Foods added to a brew will select for particular species that can use those foods. Do you want a bacterial tea? Add sugars, simple proteins, and simple carbohydrates. If a fungal brew is desired, add more complex foods, such as plant material (oatmeal, soybean meal, flour), humic acids, fulvic acids (which will release bacterial foods after fungi begin the process of decomposition). Predators (especially protozoa) can be enhanced by adding hay (cut green and dried), or by soaking hay for a few days and adding the water to the tea brew.
[h=3]Oxygen[/h]Oxygen is perhaps the parameter that has been least understood in centuries of tea-brewing. Most beneficial organisms, the organisms that promote the processes that plants need in order to be productive, grow without stress, and therefore have the greatest resistance to disease, are aerobic organisms. To enhance this community of beneficials, tea must remain aerobic.
[h=2]Trust Nature/SFI Approach - Benefits of a Healthy Foodweb[/h][h=3]A healthy foodweb occurs when:[/h]
- All the organisms the plant requires are present and functioning.
- Nutrients in the soil are in the proper forms for the plant to take-up. It is one of the functions of a healthy foodweb to hold nutrients in non-leachable forms so they remain in soil, until the plant requires the nutrients, and then the plant turns-on the right biology to convert the nutrients into forms the plant can take-up (but which are typically very leachable).
- The correct ratio of fungi to bacteria is present, and ratio of predator to prey is present, so soil pH, soil structure, and nutrient cycling occur at the correct rates and produce the right forms of nutrients for the plant.
- Retention of nutrients so they do not leach or volatilize from the soil. Reduction or complete deletion of inorganic fertilizer applications is possible.
- Cycling nutrients into the right forms at the right rates for the plant desired. The right ratio of fungi to bacteria is needed for this to happen, as well as the right numbers and activity of the predators.
- Building soil structure, so oxygen, water and other nutrients can easily move into the soil and into deep, well-structured root systems. Current concepts of plant root systems as being at the surface of the soil is the result of current agricultural and urban practices, not a real condition of plants.
Roots should go down into the soil for at least several to 10s and perhaps 100s of feet, but the compaction that humans impose on soil results in toxic materials being produced, preventing good root penetration. The only sustainable way to deal with this is to have the proper biology build the structure in the soil again, so oxygen and water can move into the soil. When the biology is functioning properly, water use is reduced, the need for fertilizers is reduced, and plant production is increased. - Suppression of disease-causing organisms through competition with beneficials, by setting up the soil and foliar conditions to help the beneficials instead of the diseases.
- Protection of plant surfaces, above or below ground by making certain the foods the plant surfaces release into the soil are used by beneficial, not disease organisms, making certain that infection sites on plant surfaces are occupied by beneficial, and not disease-causing organisms. And by making certain predators that prefer disease-causing organisms are present to consume disease-causing organisms.
- Production of plant-growth-promoting hormones and chemicals can result in larger root systems, although whether forcing larger root systems on plants is a positive result needs to be understood.
- Bio-Decomposition of toxic compounds
haha I know man,,, they are already making contact with each other... I just separated them last night ffs!
They were all going to get topped anyway,,, was just trying to decide when to do it
and today was the day! All but eight of them were topped at the third node... The other eight will get it soon enough My first go at mainlining
Yes, reveg after sexing... Dats the way its done.
whodatnation
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Sweet link boboThere are some great tea threads on RIU, hmason. If you search AACT inside the search window on RIU you'll come up with some golden sources from the Organics section... hold on, I bet I can find it even without my morning coffee.
edit: Here, check this out. Should answer all your questions. https://www.rollitup.org/organics/516845-aact-bloom-tea-veg-tea.html
Different teas do different things. . . this is just the tip of the iceberg, and probably doesn't even go that in depth in regards to the benefits. Essentially they help keep your plant, and your roots stay healthy and fight off pests, all the while giving them food and helping to build up the right bacterial colonies in your soil. Or something. Tons of RIU threads on this subject. Start reading
Whoa... that was... amazing.
thanks for posting.I find google a much MUCH better search engine... RUIs' search option blows donkey balls.