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Im goin with technaflora. They good. But I jus found a nursery in my city and they sell fox farms ocean mix and will be get some on friday. I don't kno what it is but hopefully it was jus bcuz I foliage fed them. I will see at the end of this week
 
For starters... More than 1/2 strength... and then from there you should know that the remedy is going to take time. It isn't like a hunger pain where you feel hungry, eat, and now you're not hungry anymore. Give her time to recover and just keep an eye on the new growth. If the problem seems to worsen then post some more pictures and we can go from there.

Time though. time.
Thanx a lot. The time after next when I water it do I give it full strength with the nutes? I will keep u posted on the way the plant is doin and thanx again cuz it that jus helps me better as a grower
 
OK now I am curious on another thing when I get street green its really nugged up but when I grow my buts are really loose and not nugged. even if I do proper cure with class jugs and all. Why is this? Next time I post I post a pic too. 6 plants lookin too good. Im so proud of myself. lol...
 

roll it up smoke it up

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I found this old Sun Valley Sperti, I think it was made for an old tanning light. Has anybody seen one of these? Can I use it for growing? It is 425 watts I don't know what kind of bulb it is though?435688272_tp.jpg
 

cervezacorona

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What are the hottest temps that you can grow with? I never had heat issues before (indoors), never seen over 80 F until I gave HPS a try.
I have grown outdoors as north as northern Wisconsin, US, and as south as the bottom of Mexico, with temps exceeding 110 F, even in N. Wisconsin,
temps get pretty intense in the summer, every year it gets 90+. I always had good yields outdoors, and great potency.

Also with high lights on temps, and lower lights off temps, say 90 F on, 60-65 F off, wont this slow plants growth as well?
 

e20sm0ke

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i have like 3-4 tent questions all relating to ventilation i feel like an idiot when it comes to ventilation

would it be possible to run a duct from the air conditioning vent on the cieling into my tent? I mean i know its possible but what if i taped up like half of the vent for the duct and left the other half open for the room would the air actually make it into the duct or would it just flow into the room or would i have to tape up the whole thing

seperate question


lets say i have a 4 inch inline fan and i want to use it to cool my light with no carbon filter. where does the ducting start for something like that?? like duct to fan to hood to out of the tent? and where is that inline fan drawing air from? or is it pushing the air into the hood and out of the tent. could i see a 4-6 temp decrease in something like that? im just not sure how to hook up a 4 inch inline


seperate question

lets say i have a 4 inch inline with carbon filter and air cooled hood. so it starts from the carbon filter then ducts to the fan which draws air/notsure? out of the carbon filter to duct to hood to out of the tent? if thats how it works how does the carbon filter keep the smell out if its just venting the hood?

seperate question

here is my hood there is 4 notches it looks like around where i can duct something. is that made for an attachment that I have to buy or does the ducting slip in there? also can i use duct tape on a hot hood?? will that make it bubble up? here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg

seperate questionn

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg im gonna be using rope ratchets soon instead of chains should i change the positioning of the hood to sideways so its easier for the ducting? or which would be the easiest for ducting??

seperate question

would a 80cfm fan be of any worth to this tent? they are 14 bucks at home depot. would my temp drop even 2-3 degrees with one? would it be enough to draw air through the hood??

seperate question

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg so the notches for ducting are a little bit further apart then the ducting area and my tent has 5 inch flanges would I be able to use 5 inch ducting that would hook up to that 4 inch hood?

the heat is so bad coming from that duct area in my hood I eventually plan on getting a 4inch inline fan in a week or so Im just looking for a really cheap option now im really just super confused about ventilation and i dont have alot of options if anyone could answer any of these I would much appreciate it!
 

Snow Crash

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would it be possible to run a duct from the air conditioning vent on the cieling into my tent? I mean i know its possible but what if i taped up like half of the vent for the duct and left the other half open for the room would the air actually make it into the duct or would it just flow into the room or would i have to tape up the whole thing.

Huh? It'll go wherever you let it go. It's air... It doesn't really "decide" where to go. If to channel it off, then you channel it off. Don't overthink it.


lets say i have a 4 inch inline fan and i want to use it to cool my light with no carbon filter. where does the ducting start for something like that?? like duct to fan to hood to out of the tent? and where is that inline fan drawing air from? or is it pushing the air into the hood and out of the tent. could i see a 4-6 temp decrease in something like that? im just not sure how to hook up a 4 inch inline


The setup goes reflector to ducting to fan to ducting. The Fan pulls air in through the reflector, over the bulb, into ducting, then through the fan, where it is pushed through some more ducting to the exhaust point.
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lets say i have a 4 inch inline with carbon filter and air cooled hood. so it starts from the carbon filter then ducts to the fan which draws air/notsure? out of the carbon filter to duct to hood to out of the tent? if thats how it works how does the carbon filter keep the smell out if its just venting the hood?

Not really how it works, but for the sake of conversation, the air from the grow room is pulled into the carbon filter where it is cleaned. The clean air flows into the reflector to cool the bulb, and is pulled through by the fan. Then the fan exhausts the hot, clean, air out of the grow area.

here is my hood there is 4 notches it looks like around where i can duct something. is that made for an attachment that I have to buy or does the ducting slip in there? also can i use duct tape on a hot hood?? will that make it bubble up? here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg

Yes, you need attachments for that hood to make it air cooled. I don't think the duct tape is going to work.

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg im gonna be using rope ratchets soon instead of chains should i change the positioning of the hood to sideways so its easier for the ducting? or which would be the easiest for ducting??

You want to set up the fan so there are as few turns or angles in the ducting as possible. The straighter the better.

would a 80cfm fan be of any worth to this tent? they are 14 bucks at home depot. would my temp drop even 2-3 degrees with one? would it be enough to draw air through the hood??

Wouldn't hurt... but I don't think it is the answer you are looking for.

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg so the notches for ducting are a little bit further apart then the ducting area and my tent has 5 inch flanges would I be able to use 5 inch ducting that would hook up to that 4 inch hood?

No. You just use 4" ducting. I don't even know if they make 5" ducting.

the heat is so bad coming from that duct area in my hood I eventually plan on getting a 4inch inline fan in a week or so Im just looking for a really cheap option now im really just super confused about ventilation and i dont have alot of options if anyone could answer any of these I would much appreciate it!
 

e20sm0ke

Active Member
would it be possible to run a duct from the air conditioning vent on the cieling into my tent? I mean i know its possible but what if i taped up like half of the vent for the duct and left the other half open for the room would the air actually make it into the duct or would it just flow into the room or would i have to tape up the whole thing.

Huh? It'll go wherever you let it go. It's air... It doesn't really "decide" where to go. If to channel it off, then you channel it off. Don't overthink it.


lets say i have a 4 inch inline fan and i want to use it to cool my light with no carbon filter. where does the ducting start for something like that?? like duct to fan to hood to out of the tent? and where is that inline fan drawing air from? or is it pushing the air into the hood and out of the tent. could i see a 4-6 temp decrease in something like that? im just not sure how to hook up a 4 inch inline


The setup goes reflector to ducting to fan to ducting. The Fan pulls air in through the reflector, over the bulb, into ducting, then through the fan, where it is pushed through some more ducting to the exhaust point.
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lets say i have a 4 inch inline with carbon filter and air cooled hood. so it starts from the carbon filter then ducts to the fan which draws air/notsure? out of the carbon filter to duct to hood to out of the tent? if thats how it works how does the carbon filter keep the smell out if its just venting the hood?

Not really how it works, but for the sake of conversation, the air from the grow room is pulled into the carbon filter where it is cleaned. The clean air flows into the reflector to cool the bulb, and is pulled through by the fan. Then the fan exhausts the hot, clean, air out of the grow area.

here is my hood there is 4 notches it looks like around where i can duct something. is that made for an attachment that I have to buy or does the ducting slip in there? also can i use duct tape on a hot hood?? will that make it bubble up? here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg

Yes, you need attachments for that hood to make it air cooled. I don't think the duct tape is going to work.

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg im gonna be using rope ratchets soon instead of chains should i change the positioning of the hood to sideways so its easier for the ducting? or which would be the easiest for ducting??

You want to set up the fan so there are as few turns or angles in the ducting as possible. The straighter the better.

would a 80cfm fan be of any worth to this tent? they are 14 bucks at home depot. would my temp drop even 2-3 degrees with one? would it be enough to draw air through the hood??

Wouldn't hurt... but I don't think it is the answer you are looking for.

here is the picture of my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg so the notches for ducting are a little bit further apart then the ducting area and my tent has 5 inch flanges would I be able to use 5 inch ducting that would hook up to that 4 inch hood?

No. You just use 4" ducting. I don't even know if they make 5" ducting.

the heat is so bad coming from that duct area in my hood I eventually plan on getting a 4inch inline fan in a week or so Im just looking for a really cheap option now im really just super confused about ventilation and i dont have alot of options if anyone could answer any of these I would much appreciate it!
hey thanks for the help +rep for sure. ive got a couple questions though you say if i only have one 4 inch inline fan and no carbon filter then It would be hood to ducting to fan to outside of tent but that still leaves the other side of the hood duct open. will hot air be leaked out of that side or will all of it be pulled through the hood with the fan??

seperate question.. does anyone know where i can find a duct attachment like the one shown for this hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg


also seperate question

in regards to the carbon filter question you say the air is pulled from the grow room into the carbon filter. how does that process happen?? where is it being pulled from? is there an open ducting pulling air in somewhere? what im picturing doesnt have anywhere to pull in air from if the ducts arent open and they are leaving the tent
 

Snow Crash

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hey thanks for the help +rep for sure. ive got a couple questions though you say if i only have one 4 inch inline fan and no carbon filter then It would be hood to ducting to fan to outside of tent but that still leaves the other side of the hood duct open. will hot air be leaked out of that side or will all of it be pulled through the hood with the fan??

seperate question.. does anyone know where i can find a duct attachment like the one shown for this hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg


also seperate question

in regards to the carbon filter question you say the air is pulled from the grow room into the carbon filter. how does that process happen?? where is it being pulled from? is there an open ducting pulling air in somewhere? what im picturing doesnt have anywhere to pull in air from if the ducts arent open and they are leaving the tent
The only reason you haven't figured this out yet is because of the kind of learner you are. You're a visual, see it and do it, kind of learner from what I can tell. I could write all the descriptions in the world and I know you're just not going to really comprehend the system without seeing it first hand.

My suggestion to you at this point is to google things like "tent ventilation system" and "carbon filter ventilation" and other things of that nature. Check out the images and the videos for diagrams and pictures of the grow room.

I just don't know how else to say it...

The fan is pulling air in from one side and blowing it out the other. So you use the "blowing" end to blow the heat out of the room. The sucking end is attached to ducting, which just extends the place the air is sucked from. So you connect that to the air cooled hood. Now the air is being sucked in from the open end of the hood, across the bulb, through the ducting, and blown out by the fan. Then you attach more ducting to the open end of the hood, which again, just extends where the sucking of the fan gets the air from. Finally, when you attach a carbon filter to the end of the ducting there is only one way for air to go.

The fan, blowing hot air out of the tent, sucks air in through the carbon filter, then through the first bit of ducting that is from the carbon filter to hood. Then the air is sucked through the hood before traveling through the second bit of ducting, from the hood to the fan, before finally being blown out.

I have no idea what is confusing about that. I remember struggling with the setup myself when I was getting started which is why I am showing you patience with the matter. But seriously, you have everything you need to figure this out now. If my description didn't work then you need to just google this and watch a video or two.
 

Snow Crash

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This leaf is kind of curling down and to the side and I don't know if I should let it go and not worry or if I need to do something asap
Personally, I wouldn't worry, but I know what I'm doing.

You, you should probably worry a little. That is definitely a sign of an issue. Be it nutritional, pH, or root damage. Hard to say from here, but you need to "do it right" from here on out. Explaining how to "do it right" is like holding your hand and telling you exactly what to do and how to grow. Not really what I'm here for...

What I can say is to check your pH, your cal-mag levels, and watering habits. In the long run that leaf doesn't mean anything... but if you don't resolve whatever has caused it you could be in for a lot of trouble down the road doing the same thing that got you to here.
 

e20sm0ke

Active Member
The only reason you haven't figured this out yet is because of the kind of learner you are. You're a visual, see it and do it, kind of learner from what I can tell. I could write all the descriptions in the world and I know you're just not going to really comprehend the system without seeing it first hand.

My suggestion to you at this point is to google things like "tent ventilation system" and "carbon filter ventilation" and other things of that nature. Check out the images and the videos for diagrams and pictures of the grow room.

I just don't know how else to say it...

The fan is pulling air in from one side and blowing it out the other. So you use the "blowing" end to blow the heat out of the room. The sucking end is attached to ducting, which just extends the place the air is sucked from. So you connect that to the air cooled hood. Now the air is being sucked in from the open end of the hood, across the bulb, through the ducting, and blown out by the fan. Then you attach more ducting to the open end of the hood, which again, just extends where the sucking of the fan gets the air from. Finally, when you attach a carbon filter to the end of the ducting there is only one way for air to go.

The fan, blowing hot air out of the tent, sucks air in through the carbon filter, then through the first bit of ducting that is from the carbon filter to hood. Then the air is sucked through the hood before traveling through the second bit of ducting, from the hood to the fan, before finally being blown out.

I have no idea what is confusing about that. I remember struggling with the setup myself when I was getting started which is why I am showing you patience with the matter. But seriously, you have everything you need to figure this out now. If my description didn't work then you need to just google this and watch a video or two.
now that HELPED ME im gonna throw that in a damn .txt file hahaha that really just answered almost every single one of my questions. I am definately someone who needs to see it but that description helps. im going to get a 4inch inline fan and carbon filter fan combo but im still unsure of what kind of attachment is for these notches for ducting in my hood http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/sbuuttler/03-13-2011/lightsetup.jpg have you seen anything that would fit that ? I searched online and only found specific ones for specific hoods. I figure I can probably just duct tape it on but im not sure if ducttape on that hot hood would be alright. there isnt a place to clamp the ducting on
 

cervezacorona

Active Member
I have the same one.
What are the measurements between the screw holes?
I just measured mine, they are 5" apart on one side, and 3 5/8" on the other.
measure the screw holes on yours and see if it's a match.....
Just so you don't buy something you do not need.......
 
another quick newb question.

i know everyone argues about which lights are better for what, but whats the most cost effective lights to start out with. I will be starting off trying to grow 4 decent size plants and would just like to know how many and what type of lights i should get. I read that cfls are good to start out with but what wattage and how many should i get? Ill most likely be getting a 400w hps for flowering. Im in no way trying to just cheap out, I just would rather not waste a bunch of money and hav to end up getting more lights because i got the wrong ones the first time.
thanks
 

bigedawg

Member
What is the best way to germinate a seed to increase the success rate of it actually growing? Also, do you have any threads or links to threads for someone starting from scratch that don't know much about growing? Thanks all.....
 
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